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Show of religious hands
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Oct 4, 2024, 10:03 PM
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How many on here believe natural disasters (hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, and so forth) are acts of god to cleanse bad stuff?
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Maybe. Could also think of the Earth as a sentient being
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Oct 4, 2024, 10:46 PM
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and those storms are its antibodies fighting off disease. The disease of those largest brown cancerous cities that you can see from the skies that continue to grow year after year overtaking the lush green oxygen rich forests.
Gonna go hug me a big ole pecan tree now.
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The top of my carport is covered with the top branches of a big ole pecan tree.
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Oct 5, 2024, 10:41 AM
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I am not giving it a hug so if you want to prevent my desecration of one of your sacred idols you need to get your butt over here this weekend cause Monday this thing is going to hell in the chipper.
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Is everyone who doesn't raise their hand going to hell, smart brother?***
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Oct 5, 2024, 9:40 AM
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Re: Is everyone who doesn't raise their hand going to hell, smart brother?***
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Oct 5, 2024, 10:00 AM
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Just in their imaginations perhaps
Honestly I wasn’t aware that religious people still believe this. The religious people I know don’t… at least say they don’t. But occasionally it comes there’s a Pat Robertson moment or that blk preacher that keeps getting posted on here( who seems to have a big following)
So I was curious as who believes this or not
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From my perspective this all hinges on how one defines religion.
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Oct 5, 2024, 10:38 AM
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The connotation of the very word 'religion,' insist that it's defined as how man goes about making himself acceptable to God. This is such that I do not consider myself religious so I refuse to raise my hand.
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Re: Show of religious hands
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Oct 5, 2024, 11:30 AM
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I think the stock answer is that because of our sin the world is imperfect, and therefore bad things happen, but all will be made right when Jesus returns.
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Re: Show of religious hands
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Oct 5, 2024, 3:41 PM
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It is a very ancient way of thinking, but there are some nuances to it.
The ancient Israelites (and so, the OT and to some extent the NT) saw natural events as punishment/rewards/signs based on obedience or lack thereof. For instance, a flood as punishment or a rainbow as a sign God would never flood so severely again. But that as all based on obedience.
The Greeks seemed to see natural events as acts of the Gods too, but more based on the temperament of the Gods, not obedience. Their gods are very human...they had affairs, they lost their temper, they could be fooled, etc. Essentially, super-humans prone to the same mistakes humans make vs. the Jewish idea of all powerful and all-knowing.
The Mesos saw their gods in a similar fashion. In the Babylonian story of the Great Flood, the Gods destroy they earth not because it is evil, but because it is so damm LOUD. Noisy humans won't stop talking, banging hammers, cutting with saws (watch out with that chainsaw, 88!) ClemsonTiger1988®, yelling, screaming, banging rocks, etc. And so they keep the Gods awake, who understandably get pizzed because they can't get a good night's sleep.
If you've ever had a neighbor decide to mow their lawn at 7:00am on your day off, or had to deal with a block party that goes on till 4:00am, you understand.
So for them, destruction is again due to the Gods anger, but not people's disobedience.
As far as the Egyptians it's kind of in the middle. The Gods are definitely in control of natural events, but because of the stability of the Nile vs. the chaotic flooding of the Tigris/Euphrates, there just weren't the same degree of natural disasters in ancient Egypt as there was elsewhere. So to them, their gods don't seem to get as 'angry' as the Greek, Meso, or Jewish gods, though they do still control natural events.
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Half of that mess became road kill yesterday.
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Oct 6, 2024, 5:08 AM
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The pull start cord locked up on my 1965 Mac 10-10 saw and I'm going to finish the hair of that Pecan off today with an old Porter Cable sawsall W/ a 9" blade. I'm going to fix the chainsaw too if I get time.
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Re: Show of religious hands
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Oct 7, 2024, 7:38 AM
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Not an act of God to cleanse the bad stuff.
They are NATURAL disasters. Sometimes we humans get in the way of that. Often, our own hubris or denial believes that we can survive it or at worst, control it. We live with cognitive dissonance in areas that we probably shouldn't. California has earthquakes and wildfires. The Midwest is notorious for tornados, drought in the southwest, blizzards in the northeast and hurricanes along the south.
If nobody lived in the areas effected, would we still call them disasters?
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I do not***
Oct 7, 2024, 7:38 AM
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Nope. I believe God gives us free will, and that applies to nature as well. Now,
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Oct 7, 2024, 8:17 AM
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do I think God COULD do something like that? Absolutely, no question.
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