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Sam Harris: "The Trouble with Elon"...
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Sam Harris: "The Trouble with Elon"...

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Jan 16, 2025, 3:51 PM
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https://samharris.substack.com/p/the-trouble-with-elon

As I don't follow Elon that closely, I wasn't aware of his run-ins with Sam Harris on Twitter/X. Apparently, they used to be friends until Harris tried to set Elon straight about Covid. And when Sam turned out to be right, that was the end of friendship and the begin of mutual disdain.

Anyway, interesting read.

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When you're done there...

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Jan 16, 2025, 3:54 PM
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Do some reading on comparisons/research between him and Henry Ford and their strange interloping into the political scene. The similarities are striking.

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Jan 16, 2025, 9:02 PM
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For entertainment, watch the fictionalized version of the business plot in the movie "Amsterdam." Ford is one of the five industrialists in the conspiracy that the movie doesn't name (others are JP Morgan, Pierre DuPont, but not Walt Disney who was a Hitler superfan but didn't have that much power at the time). Some Trumpers will enjoy the movie because Taylor Swift is assassinated in the street.

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I haven't looked into it at all, but I had wondered if there were similarities***


Jan 17, 2025, 11:05 AM [ in reply to When you're done there... ]
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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


Good read.


Jan 16, 2025, 8:01 PM
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Thanks for posting.

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Re: Sam Harris: "The Trouble with Elon"...


Jan 16, 2025, 8:57 PM
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I didn't pay attention at the time, but the conflict between Elon and one of Tesla's two true founders is fascinating. Elon came along and was one of the first big investors a year or so after founding with the money he got from being pushed out of PayPal (for insisting they rename it "X"). After he helped push out one of the two founders, lawsuits ensued, resulting in Elon being allowed to call himself a founder too.

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People like Elon live and die by the conflict, so to speak....


Jan 17, 2025, 8:36 AM
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He probably has falling-outs with people all the time, probably including within his own family.

Trump and Elon, I predict, will have a falling out during the next few years. Two personalities like that don't co-exist in the same space for long.

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Jan 17, 2025, 9:03 AM
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They have made it longer than I predicted. The only way Leon can control him the way way he wants is to live in the white house.

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Great essay.

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Jan 17, 2025, 11:08 AM
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Of all the talky talk people who are famous for talking all the time, Sam Harris seems to me one of the most reasonable. It's a testament to his intelligence and wisdom that he's routinely trashed by the extremes of opposing political stripes.

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
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Sam Harris says what he thinks...


Jan 17, 2025, 2:11 PM
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and he keeps an even keel. I've never seen him go ballistic on someone. He will tell people if he agrees or disagrees with them.

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Jan 17, 2025, 12:54 PM
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in today's installment of Prime Minister Musk, being sued by the SEC for Fraud, got caught by the reddit gaming community for paying a Chinese gamer to build up his World of Warcraft character, then lying and claiming to be a semi-pro gamer. That seems silly for a 50-year-old.

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Jan 17, 2025, 12:57 PM
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Also, it seems like something so petty for the world's wealthiest man to care about. Odd dude.

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An entire thread on "Elon Envy"... Poor bastitches can't take being left behind.***


Jan 17, 2025, 2:20 PM
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