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New Story: Brownell says recent scandals have stained college basketball
Oct 18, 2017, 1:04 PM
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Brownell says recent scandals have stained college basketball
The sport of basketball from AAU to college to sports agents – was hit with one of the biggest scandals in college athletics history last month when a wide-ranging cheating and money laundering investigation was announced by the FBI. What does Clemson coach Brad Brownell say about the scandal?
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Milk toast Brown L has sunk Clemson basketball***
Oct 18, 2017, 1:30 PM
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Re: Milk toast Brown L has sunk Clemson basketball***
Oct 18, 2017, 2:10 PM
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ONCE AGAIN THE MOT HAS SPOKEN. DID YOU NOT READ ANYTHING COACH HAD TO SAY. SOME OF YOU TRULY NEED TO GET A LIFE.
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Re: Milk toast Brown L has sunk Clemson basketball***
Oct 18, 2017, 2:12 PM
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Agreed season hasnt even started and the same group has started again.
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Re: Milk toast Brown L has sunk Clemson basketball***
Oct 18, 2017, 2:16 PM
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SOME OF THESE GOOBERS NEED TO WATCH THIS VERY CAREFULLY. MAYBE MORE THAN ONCE.
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Re: Milk toast Brown L has sunk Clemson basketball***
Oct 18, 2017, 2:19 PM
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WELL THAT DIDNT WORK. GO FIND IT AND LOOK AT IT
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [100286]
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Orange Phenom [14707]
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Re: Let me assist
Oct 19, 2017, 7:11 AM
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THANKS
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Coach Brownell politely didn't mention the stain had
Oct 18, 2017, 1:42 PM
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(unsurprisingly) reached into Frank Martin's basketball program at usuck where they had unprecedented success post-season. No one at The State seems concerned a former usuck assistant was arrested by the FBI....Frank Martin has made a statement concerning the Dept.of Justice/FBI investigation, but has entertained no questions on the matter. usuck has publicly stated THEY'RE conducting their own investigation into Lamont Evans' dealings with usuck players.....but there's been no word from usuck yet and certainly little interest by local media.
And then undoubtedly the NCAA will be examining all the facts the FBI digs up in the not-too-distant future.
Clemson's recent basketball fortunes have not been particularly successful, but at least the university hasn't recieved a subpoena from the Dept. of Justice nor had a recent basketball program employee arrested by the FBI.
Seeya Pitino.
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As if things aren't bad enough. Now we have basketball on
Oct 18, 2017, 1:48 PM
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the front page.
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Re: As if things aren't bad enough. Now we have basketball on
Oct 18, 2017, 1:54 PM
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and we're losing to them in the sport we should blow them out in.
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How many years will this set us back?***
Oct 18, 2017, 1:49 PM
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"you know some things have happened"
Oct 18, 2017, 1:56 PM
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So why not report these things?
No concrete evidence but pretty sure something underhanded took place?
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Oct 18, 2017, 2:04 PM
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Whatevs. Now go win us some games.***
Oct 18, 2017, 2:51 PM
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Not foozball, don't care.***
Oct 18, 2017, 2:52 PM
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Re: New Story: Brownell says recent scandals have stained college basketball
Oct 18, 2017, 3:04 PM
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So would some of you like for us to create some phantom classes, get TAs to write papers for our athletes, and just make sure there are some non-athletes in the classes, so we can recruit the 5 stars, sorta like UNCheaters? Great. We can return to the Tates Locke days and probations. Listen to Coach Brownell. I'd rather lose honestly than cheat to win.
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Re: New Story: Brownell says recent scandals have stained college basketball
Oct 18, 2017, 9:45 PM
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Thank you Tigered1. Brownell seems to be running his program the way Bill Foster did. Sure, we would have liked to win more big games during that era, but we needed a clean program after the Tates Locke era. Bill Foster's players were in many of my classes. They attended class regularly, took notes, turned in their work, and borrowed notes when they had to miss for away games. Several were also active in FCA. Now (or then) if we could just shoot foul shots and get rebounds in the same game...
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Re: New Story: Brownell says recent scandals have stained college basketball
Oct 18, 2017, 3:04 PM
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So would some of you like for us to create some phantom classes, get TAs to write papers for our athletes, and just make sure there are some non-athletes in the classes, so we can recruit the 5 stars, sorta like UNCheaters? Great. We can return to the Tates Locke days and probations. Listen to Coach Brownell. I'd rather lose honestly than cheat to win.
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Re: New Story: Brownell says recent scandals have stained college basketball***
Oct 18, 2017, 3:16 PM
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Brownell, in many ways, = Dabo - wins.
Oct 18, 2017, 3:23 PM
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And believe it or not, that's a compliment. Integrity out the wazoo; does it the right way without compromise or apology. Refuses to tread in that "gray area" where many, if not most successful basketball programs live. Personally, I believe college basketball is effed-up on many levels, and sadly it's very difficult for guys like Brownell (or Dabo, for that matter) to achieve and maintain success at the highest level. I wish the NCAA would grow some bawls so that low-life scum were not rewarded while good guys and good coaches like Brownell are handicapped; but I also wish I had a magic flying carpet. I don't think it's the only reason, but I think it is one reason Brownell has struggled here, and a not so insignificant one. I want badly for Brownell to succeed at Clemson, and I am not willing for one second to hire a scumbag who bends the rules or flat out cheats. I really and truly hope this is the year that Brownell gets over the hump.
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Re: Brownell, in many ways, = Dabo - wins.
Oct 18, 2017, 4:06 PM
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Agree. Let's not take the Louisville route.
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Re: Brownell, in many ways, = Dabo - wins.
Oct 18, 2017, 4:18 PM
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I think if BB is the man to build a solid NCAA tourney program, we would know it by now. He seems to be an upright guy but it just isn't happening on the floor.
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I tend to agree - at this point. But, he is our coach and
Oct 18, 2017, 4:39 PM
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I'm hoping I am wrong. I think Brownell is a very good coach, but has had a couple of things against him. First, his integrity, as discussed, has worked against him. Then there is the lack of winning tradition here at Clemson, at least at a high level, and as compared to most of our conference mates. When you combine that with what at least appears to have been a chronic lack of importance (and money) placed on basketball at Clemson, it has been tough for anybody to build and sustain success at a high level here. We are generally regarded as a football school that oh yeah, happens to have a basketball team. New facilities and new assistants may turn that around, but it could be too little, too late for Brownell. His name and reputation, I fear, may be too closely associated with failure at Clemson. And when I say failure, I mean failure to compete at a high level.
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Re: New Story: Brownell says recent scandals have stained college basketball
Oct 18, 2017, 9:59 PM
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Go win some basketball games and shut up.
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He has stained Clemson basketball
Oct 19, 2017, 6:58 AM
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nfm
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