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If I'm told I can't be neutral, then I'm against whoever tells me that
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Oct 7, 2024, 12:12 AM
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Just because it's important to you doesn't mean I have to be involved.
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Re: Neutrality Is Not An Option
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Oct 7, 2024, 7:58 AM
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“We have become an anti Christian culture”
Stopped here. Last time I drove around there was still a church on every corner.
Not sure what about our society is “anti Christian” except for maybe the fact that other beliefs are now starting to be tolerated.
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Re: Neutrality Is Not An Option
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Oct 7, 2024, 10:47 AM
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Folks have always worshipped idols of every kind. The Greeks more than tolerated them. Church on every corner with very few Gen Z attendees in any of them. Last stat I saw had Gen Z church attendance at 17%. Many of those churches are not teaching the word of God. They are entertaining folks.
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Re: Neutrality Is Not An Option
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Oct 7, 2024, 1:56 PM
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All that sounds a like a problem within Christianity itself, not signs that society is anti Christian.
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I'm not neutral by any means. I just refuse to vote for a turd who is bad for my
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Oct 7, 2024, 11:00 AM
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country just because that's the only choices I'm given. Besides, I already know which way my state is going anyway.
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Oct 7, 2024, 11:47 AM
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An interesting sermon.
I thought his points on persecution were well made. That seems to be human nature throughout all of history. But I think he undercut his own position with his own judgments.
Who knows what God has told any man, except that man? And so while I can appreciate him calling out a greater problem among men, I don't think he helps to solve that problem with his own attitudes.
He seems to say 'they' think he's crazy for what he thinks, but then says 'they' are ridiculous for what they think. So what's the difference?
He might answer, "Well, God told me this." But how does he know what God told 'them'? Who knows how God speaks to anyone?
In short, it doesn't seem that he's any more open to others than he expects them to be open to him.
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Re: Neutrality Is Not An Option
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Oct 7, 2024, 7:20 PM
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Anyone who reads the Bible should be able comprehend Jesus' mission was to save the lost. Same with the apostles and the church of that day. The same mission statement remains in the scrolls and rolls of Jesus' Church today. ' I was sent to seek and save the lost...' - Jesus
"As God sent me so send I you..' - Jesus
It's not that He told us to stay out of politics but what time and energy is wasted on politics while the lost remains lost?
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I'm not neutral, I hate politics.
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Oct 7, 2024, 7:14 PM
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Discussing politics will cost and I don't have many friends to start spending them like pennies.
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Re: I'm not neutral, I hate politics.
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Oct 7, 2024, 7:56 PM
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I agree with you with no caveats. I will also say that I occasionally get into a political discussion, if it is about the origin of US politics, the decision to even be the US. I do believe our founding was apolitical, motivated by ideas much larger than nations and politics. The founding was not the birth of Truth, but it was the first society founded upon it. (John Q Adams, 1837)
So, I do enjoy discussing that. However, while that was not the birth of Truth, we have probably witnessed the societal death of it. No political solution, party or candidate can bring that back. As you know, all this will get worse before it gets better. We who know Jesus should consider ourselves honored to be among those who will live in this age, rather than railing against it. I am totally with you on that.
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I don't feel any real threat to Christians comes from politics.
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Oct 8, 2024, 10:08 AM
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I can't speak for others but politics has at times taken my attention off of Christ. I suggest that's what's happening to million of Christians who like Peter in his attempt to walk on water did.
He saw the winds and waves and his focus became centered upon the threat rather than The Savior. I firmly believe politics is not a threat to a Christian's walk with God. They can't stop Him and the only thing they can do to stop me is take my life.
Basically, they'd be throwing a rabbit into the brier patch.
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I love Voddie.
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Oct 9, 2024, 8:58 AM
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One of my favorite expositors of the Bible.
I just wish he had preached this sermon a year or so ago when Christians had a choice to choose someone other than Donald Trump.
America has decided the best person to lead our country is either Harris or Trump. And Trump would not be in that position if millions of people who profess to be Christians had not convinced themselves that he is the very best choice of their party.
Now, they are trying to convince me to support him because he is "the lesser of two evils." Funny, when there were several people running for the Republican nomination a year ago these same people were telling me what a great and wonderful guy he is and that he is a dedicated follower of Christ.
Christians across America need to be repenting and begging God for forgiveness.
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I never saw Trump as Christian.
Oct 9, 2024, 9:13 AM
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In fact, his catering to the believers is the first thing I don't like about him. I see in me the same evil of pride from which Trump suffers. That's the second thing I don't like about him and the list goes on.
I know no one will ever accuse me of campaigning for him because I refuse to vote or to dally in trivial matters like politics.
All my trivial dallying is in Clemson football.
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