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Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 9:46 AM
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It’s all about the recruiting. And he’s really not getting it done
Btw it’s Mal Waldrep
Like a week ago but I just learned about it
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 9:48 AM
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Who did he lose? You know how many recruits this dude is on the horn with? Please be specific.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 9:50 AM
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Watts silently committed to Michigan and Sanders is down to OSU and Tennessee
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 7:32 PM
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Watts has not committed and keeps everything really close to chest. That is Michigan trying to start stuff.
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 10:20 PM
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Neither of those are true
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:25 AM
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To be fair Waldrop was a long shot from the beginning. He was a Bama fan growing up and he knew he wanted to go there ever since he got that offer
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 9:49 AM
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Watts and Sanders are gone. He’s planning on offering 3 stars Kevin Peay, Paul Bowling, and Brady Smith
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 3:10 PM
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It has to be acknowledged
What also needs to be acknowledged is that success is the key to recruiting.
If we can somehow find something consistent in the offense even with a bad o line, success itself will help.
Like the receivers making plays after the catch, or Mafah being a beast
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 3:18 PM
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The OL didn’t get this way overnight and will not be fixed overnight.
From my limited observations, very few offensive line men move from HS to starting on a ranked team. IMO it is a harder transition for OL than most of the skilled positions (HS to college) … add to it the time it takes to build depth.
CML is proven in developing top OLs on several occasions.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 9:55 AM
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He's only been here 7 months. Frankly, I am surprised he garnered as much traction as he did with the 25 recruits in such a short period of time.
Recruiting is about relationship building. If the results for the 2026 OL class are mediocre then I will join in the criticism.
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 11:38 PM
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Surprised?
This is Clemson football. Best is the standard. Dabo Swinney. Remember?
Clemson has stamped its brand.
Now, we are doing extremely well for 2025. Just not so much the OL department.
He’s just simply losing these recruits.
I really don’t mean to lay into Luke as if he’s the sole reason. I understand money talks, and so do trophies. So, there you go.
But I would’ve liked to see him get a big one. Maybe Sanders will surprise us.
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 11:43 PM
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Do you even know what BEST stands for?
Hint... It's an acronym
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 9:59 AM
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Luke ain't the problem, he can flat out coach. The high end lineman aren't coming for free. Get used to more fall back offers.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:03 AM
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Right!?
And people scratch their heads that their finalists are always the highest programs in paying players.
I still for life of me can't figure out where Tennessee gets their money from.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:48 AM
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Not from Dentist's , that’s for sure
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 11:48 AM
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POTD!!!
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 3:29 PM
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What’s this supposed to mean? I’m just stupid apparently
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 5:44 PM
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Means nobody in Tennessee are paying Dentists to get their teeth looking right or put back in so if the Dentists aren’t getting paid then the Dentists definitely aren’t paying UT
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 4:55 PM
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They have Pilot Oil money over a billion plus several check into cash multi millionaires, lawyers, doctors and other sundry criminals.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 11:52 AM
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The mighty dollar is the recruiting tool now. The Ohio States, Florida State's and the Michigan's of the world are willing to spend the $$$$$ to buy 5-stars now.
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 3:12 PM
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He sure can
But so did Garrett Riley at TCU
Just be patient on that part
There’s no question, if we want the chance to play great again, o line recruiting must improve
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We won two nattys with lesser ranked OLs.***
Jun 21, 2024, 9:20 PM
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Re: We won two nattys with lesser ranked OLs.***
Jun 21, 2024, 11:43 PM
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Deshaun and Trevor didn’t need great lines
I honestly think that Deshaun and Trevor’s poise and speed of their play helped the line when they were there.
If a QB, like DW or Trevor, knows exactly where he’s throwing before the snap, then the line looks great. And they play better.
It’s all cause and effect to me.
Every position group affects the other in some way.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:02 AM
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Yeah supposedly Waldrep is head to Germany to fly Zepplins. As far as Luke, he is doing a solid job. We are growing.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:14 AM
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We still have plenty of good OL recruits and he'll get more. Coaching them guys up and getting max potential is the most important thing. We've recruited tons of 4* and a 5 in the past few years that haven't done much of anything with the previous coaching. You'll see the Luke effect on the field....where it counts!
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:18 AM
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Nothing wrong with guys like Thurmon, Jacobs and Ware from the 24 and 25 class either.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:27 AM
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Exactly. Combining these two classes is already pretty solid. We do something solid in 2026 as well and the OL is well on it's way.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:15 AM
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Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 9:46 AM
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It’s all about the recruiting. And he’s really not getting it done
Btw it’s Mal Waldrep
Like a week ago but I just learned about it
SO HOW LONG HAS LUKE BEEN AT CLEMSON. RECRUITING IS ALL ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS. THE THINGS YOU READ ON THIS SITE ARE BEYOND IDIOTIC.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:31 AM
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"RECRUITING IS ALL ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS. THE THINGS YOU READ ON THIS SITE ARE BEYOND IDIOTIC."
True enough it were only about recruiting, but these days its also about cash. What Luke needs is a good counterfeiting operation.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:57 AM
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Luke didn't "lose" anything. Clemson lost out on a few. At least Luke has some high level recruits talking to us that would not give us the time of day before. His clock just started. His impact is being felt and will only grow from here.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 11:02 AM
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True. We are landing solid players with nice offers too. The OP acts like we are getting skunked and landing scrubs. We are doing really well.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 11:03 AM
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Please. Recruiting is about years of relationship building. Let’s see what’s happened here in 3 years. Meanwhile, relax. The man is already making improvements.
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It is all about the $$$ now.***
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Jun 21, 2024, 11:16 AM
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Re: It is all about the $$$ now.***
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Jun 21, 2024, 11:20 AM
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MIGHT BE OLD SCHOOL BUT I WOULD RATHER HAVE CHARACTER KIDS THAT LIKE DISCIPLINE AND COACHING THAN THE GUYS THAT JUST WANT A BAG. WHAT KIND OF MOTIVATION DO THESE KIDS HAVE. THERE ARE STILL PLENTY OF CHARACTER KIDS OUT THERE.
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Re: It is all about the $$$ now.***
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Jun 21, 2024, 11:59 AM
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Seems you pine for the good ole days when the players your school signed loved your school as you did. What makes you think players as recent as Watson and Lawrence wouldn't have taken big NIL money to play somewhere else? You don't think it's possible a player can want discipline and coaching while at the same time earning some money to help his family? Why does NIL have to mean they guy has low character?
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Re: It is all about the $$$ now.***
Jun 21, 2024, 1:09 PM
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sound like a Miami fan I know
its major hay day for the shadiest and scummiest programs in the country
may as well defend it - logical
it’s too bad for the kids though
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We've rarely had great OLines since Danny to speak of
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Jun 21, 2024, 12:03 PM
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And couple generational QB's got us thru just better than average Olines but those days are over..
So it's $ and relationships which Clemson can handle responsibility over time and make it work.
CFP's are gonna be rarer and another Natty is gonna be a once in a decade thing, imho.
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 12:47 PM
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The new and improved Offensive Line will not happen in one season, or two…Dabo has never made the Oline a priority as far as his program goes and that’s what other coaches are telling these recruits. I have faith in Luke but he’s in a challenging position. People expecting a big improvement with the Oline on Aug 31 are going to be disappointed.
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 10:28 PM
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Disagree. I am not saying our line will dominate uga but they will not look lost. I think Clemson needed a new vision for the OL. I think caldwell was an avg coach and a great guy. Luke is intense and very detail oriented. My son has been to many ol camps at Clemson with Caldwell, Austin and its night and day different now. I think Caldwell got past his prime and Austin tried to continue what Caldwell had done rather than putting his own stamp on it.
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Re: Luke loses another
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Jun 21, 2024, 12:51 PM
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Clemson needs for the playing field to be level again. Until some legislation is passed to regulate the NIL and transfer portal mess, we are looking at the new normal.
I do have a question. Are any of the other Clemson sports paying transfer players up front to transfer to Clemson?
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 5:31 PM
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Do you think it’s really Luke, or $$$$?
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 8:52 PM
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I actually think it’s a lack of getting guys to the next level…
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 10:31 PM
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That was the easiest thing to negative recruits us on but Luke has put plenty in the league. If he keeps getting 1-2 high level recruits and builds the 4 year guys I think we will ne fine
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 10:24 PM
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You losers are already whining and we still got months before the first snap
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Re: Luke loses another
Jun 21, 2024, 10:37 PM
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Wow sad people have NI CLUE. Yes that is direct led to you!!!
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