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Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
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He is trying to teach humility to a bunch of kids that are only interested in creating wealth for themselves and their families while they have the opportunity to do so.
Nobody is gonna listen to a man making 11 million per year, living in a giant lakeside mansion talk about how money isn't important and football and leadership is what really matters. It's hypocritical.
He does not...CAN NOT.... relate to kids in this college football era. He is surviving off the Clemson brand that he built. Recruiting is surviving off the Clemson brand. Kids coming to Clemson are coming to get paid...not be ALL IN.
Dabo is way out of touch.
The Clemson brand is fading.
The ALL IN era is dead.
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
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Great post. It’s time to move on so we can try to compete head on doing the exact same thing all the other schools are doing. We should never try to differentiate ourselves like we did this last decade. Head on! Let’s roll.
Looking forward to see how that’s going to work out for us. Who cares if it’s a money game. We will always be able to compete against money with Ga, Ohio, Texas, ND and ESPn $. That worked out great for us in the 90s and early 20’s. No reason we can’t duplicate that.
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College football is a joke today. To h*** with it all. Continue to throw your money away in supporting it.
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We can always compete with the big boys in the money game???? You are very stupid. Before the last 5-6 years it wasn't really necessary to compete with the money schools. Paying players was illegal. Sure, some schools got away with crap. But Clemson was able to win because of the culture, the coaches, the tradition, the development, etc. Now that the money game is legal, the big schools will outspend us each and every year. No question about it. We might do okay in the crappy ACC, but compete with 'Bammer, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Miami, FSU, OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, Notre Dame, TAMU?????
Fugetaboutit!!!!!
I do believe Dabo has to change his approach when it comes to the portal, but Clemson will never be able to keep up with the big boys in the money game. That's a forgone conclusion. You better hope and pray we go to the SEC or that the current ways of acquiring talent changes. A new coach will make less money but Clemson will not make more.
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I would agree with you, except we’re not just losing or struggling with the big money schools. Even without our use of the portal and loads of NIL money, Clemson has the talent now to be top 5. Our players are not getting better with perceived experience, our game planning is atrocious, we make no in game adjustments, and our decisions (I’m speaking mainly coaching decisions) are not smart.
I like Cade, he has some skills, but he is still playing like a freshman. He doesn’t have 4 years of experience. He has one year of experience 4 times. I don’t blame all that on him.
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
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Dabo built it, Dabo filled it and Dabo killed it?
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Sep 14, 2025, 5:42 PM
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He didn't kill it. He did everything he could to try and save it.
But it was futile and to turn the blind eye and think it's not dead is ignorance at this point.
The proof is in the pudding. It started with DJU and his greedy father Big Dave. It only got worse.
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NIL is destroying college football and will finally totally destroy it.
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Sep 14, 2025, 5:59 PM
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Except college football has more eyeballs on it and is more popular than ever.
Where do you people come up with this nonsense at?
College football is thriving like never before. Go ahead and leave and take your ball with you…
Bc I promise you they’re another 1000 people waiting to take your place.
People love football and it’s going nowhere. We just have a HC… as a matter of fact… about the ONLY active HC… besides the military schools… that has failed to adapt the way literally everyone else in college football has.
Dabo was against it from the jump and his followers and worshippers jumped on that train with him to. He’s convinced yall that NIL and the portal is some kind of evil travesty when in reality it’s there to not only help the players but help the schools as well.
You know… as long as you CHOOSE to help yourself but Dabo decided to dig his heels in and resist it as long as he could before finally dipping a toe in which is still nowhere near good enough.
Now look at what we look like bc of that.
Dabo has been the problem… is the problem.. and will continue to be the problem as long as he is the HC.
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The game is more popular than ever however, it has changed with NIL and the portal. You can’t compete with other teams that use the resources and have adapted to the current landscape that has changed. Saban didn’t like it and retired. So the choice is to either adapt or understand mediocrity is your teams limit. Do I like any of it - no, most of us don’t. Use it or get used to what we’ve seen, and will see. Friends and family coaches and players only further dilute what is left. Personally, I think Dabo is a good guy and appreciate what he’s built and do not want him to be fired. However, to reach our past levels of success, his philosophy on todays game has to change.
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It’s absolutely changed which was my entire point of that post.
Dabo has flat out refused and more than dug his heels in against it and now we are what we are and it’s too late to do anything about it this year.
Dabo is never going to go all in on NIL and portal bc that would be him admitting he was wrong and his ego and pride will never allow him to admit that now.
This is not the same Dabo we had before we won that 2nd title. Not even close.
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I think its more that the old formula of being a great recruiter, no longer
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matters. Recruiting, building relationships with players, highschools etc was always Dabo's strength. None of that matters now with NIL, or it matters a whole lot less.
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Bingo!***
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Dabo is clueless and you are on your iPhone and know everything.
Sep 14, 2025, 5:38 PM
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You need to be getting ready for work tomorrow.
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Re: Dabo is clueless and you are on your iPhone and know everything.
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Same ones calling Dabo out was the ones who pushed Jack out. Look what we have done in basement since then. We will be the same in football once Dabo leaves.
Like it or not, it’s the truth.
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Re: Dabo is clueless and you are on your iPhone and know everything.
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you don’t know that
for every failure there is an equal success story across the cfb landscape
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
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I 100% agree with the OP. You are spot on with this post
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I’m afraid you’re right, I’m resigned to just accept we aren’t elite anymore and maybe wont be again in my lifetime
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It isn’t Dabo’s fault college football changed; it’s his fault he didn’t…
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Dabo is a great guy with integrity. Unfortunately integrity is a liability in
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college football today. It’s dog eat dog and everything goes these days. Successful recruiting today is pretty sleazy. I’m not saying it hasn’t been sleazy in the past but today’s recruiting doesn’t have room for integrity.
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Re: Dabo is a great guy with integrity. Unfortunately integrity is a liability in
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Being sleazy is legal now…
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Exactly!***
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
Sep 14, 2025, 5:47 PM
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I don't think Dabo's mansion is lakeside.
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So in other words… theirs nothing funny game has passed him by? Right?
Some have been saying that for a couple years or more and have gotten nothing but pushback or called a coot.
But the OP is exactly right but that’s only half the problem. The other half is actually coaching and X’s and O’s which has never been Dabos strength.
Surrounding himself with yes men while we watched our proven assistants leave and replaced them with Dabos friends and family people. People that don’t have the gall to challenge him on anything or any facet of the program.
As you said… Dabos strength was managing and recruiting. Building relationships in recruiting and trying to impress mom DO NOT MATTER anymore.
It’s all about identifying the players you need to go get and then doing whatever it takes to get them like everyone else is trying to do. Would we get them all? Of course not but we could still fall back to option 2 or 3 instead of falling back to option 6 or 7 which explains why literally almost HALF of this roster has no business being on scholarship at a place like Clemson.
I did a list on here sometime last year with 30 players on scholarship that have no business being on scholarship here bc they aren’t good enough.
One poster said he would save that list for down the road and bring it back once Dabo won big again. I wish so much I remember who that poster was bc id love to ask him what he thinks about that now.
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The concept of humility, as well as the other great things he teaches
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is not at all incompatible with college football players being paid or accumulating wealth.
If anything, I think it is an opportunity for his message to resonate even more than it used to.
Besides, it’s not like the elite players he coached in previous years were still not all about making money. Most of those guys still had plenty of money while in college (did you see some of their cars?) and knew that their hard work would pay huge dividends if they kept at it.
The same still holds true, albeit with things being different now with NIL and revenue sharing.
Blaming money in college sports for Dabo’s performance lately is a cop out. Dabo has every opportunity to be successful in 2025. After all, he is not the only coach to talk about character, graduation, and being a good human being. The difference is that the other coaches who are are not creating barriers for themselves like Dabo is.
His struggles recently are his own doing. He is not a victim. He is not a martyr. It is up to him to decide if he wants to continue to adapt or not. Full stop.
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Re: The concept of humility, as well as the other great things he teaches
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I tend to agree with this for the most part. But I think it's a simpler than nil or portal. Dabo hasn't changed.
I actually think most of these posts have merit. It's true that recruiting has gone down. Our blue chip ratio has regressed.
But I honestly think it's #2. I really think if Dabo never got dw4 or tlaw, we'd have had about the same records that we've had the last 5 years.
These Dabo warts were always there. In fact, we won in spite of Dabo. Dw4 and tlaw were just that good to overcome the cracks.
Dabo escalated a lot with his hiring tactics. We won with generation QB's and defense.
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...he's so dang good, we can do things the right way and still compete with the best within this new system!
He knows finishing strong late (the eye test) matters much more than how the first few games go. He believes in his players and teaches them to work through adversity by example. He's got a plan.
Dabo rocks the 'conformity boat' eSECpn wants everybody onboard and shows how really special Clemson University is by setting us apart.
Keep watching. The best is yet to come!
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
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We had the best.
We saw the best.
We were the best.
Best was standard.
The best came and I enjoyed the #### out of it.
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Lmao… Dabo is lost bro.
Look at his body language and demeanor in that presser yesterday. He’s lost and he doesn’t know what to do.
He just can’t figure out why we’re not performing in the games bc out of his own mouth… “we’re not making these mistakes in practice”.
I call BS. There is zero and I mean ZERO chance all these mistakes aren’t showing up at some point at practice.
No team can be this sloppy and make this many mistakes and none of it ever show up at practice.
Dabo is lost bro and he doesn’t know how to fix it. He’s just got to much pride and to big an ego to admit he was wrong and start using all the tools and resources available to him bc that would make him look bad.
Dabo would rather go down his way than to admit he was wrong and start using all this stuff to better help Clemson. Dabo has become all about Dabo and this isn’t new… this arrogance and ego developed after the 2nd national championship.
He hasn’t been the same man since.
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We've won 8 of the last 10 ACC titles and y'all are acting like we're Wake Forest. Two coaches have ever done that in the last 70 yrs.
But I do agree with the excessive salary. If only he made $60k/yr and lived in a single wide on a half acre in Six Mile, we'd be 3-0. Because the players would respect that kind of humble and successful man.
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Sep 14, 2025, 10:23 PM
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Bro are you seriously proud THAT proud of winning the ACC?
Yall people love to point out past accomplishments and those ACC titles as some kind of justification for Dabo and its laughable.
The ACC is terrible bro and has been for awhile. Quit bragging like that’s going something impressive.
We had to have a 56 yard FG to beat… wait for it… S… M….U in our conference title game.
Just wow… SMU… and it took everything we had… and you act like we beat Alabama or Ohio St lol.
You do you though bud.
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
Sep 15, 2025, 12:10 PM
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Bloom where you're planted.
I admire your fantasy of finishing 1st or 2nd in the SEC or BigT though.
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Define the right way?
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There is no more "eye test". Thanks to the demise of the PAC-12, the ACC still has a seat at the table and an automatic bid to the playoffs. I want us to blow every team off the field, just like every other fan does. But the truth is you don't have to, just win your conference, and that starts with beating the conference teams on your schedule. Can we still get to the championship game? Yeah, it's possible but now that it's the top two teams and not a divisional thing, that loss to Tech made it a lot harder.
I'm not saying Dabo needs to start poaching players from other schools like some coaches have done. But why not use all the resources at your disposal to their fullest extent. And that might include having to make some hard decisions and even hurt some feelings. Now more than ever college football is about money. It's not about what you did last year or five years ago or about what you might be in two or three years. It's about winning now. Putting fannies in the seats now. Getting big corporate sponsors for NIL now. And putting the very best product on the field now. Now if what we've seen so far this season is the best product, then fine we'll have to take our lumps and rebuild in the off season.
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Some accuracy there RJC ... but situations change
Sep 14, 2025, 9:15 PM
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Players and parents are multi-faceted. Different strokes.
Another facet of Dabo's game management approach struck me on Saturday as I was driving south from OBX to Savannah and listening to the game on radio -- it was a simple 1st quarter play. Klubnik had passed incomplete to TE Josh Sapp. I remember thinking how was Sapp in the game in the 1st Qtr? How did the bigger & better TE's Patt-Henry and Bentancur not rate being in the game and not being the recipient of passes when they were?
And the answr is Dabo is all about playing subs and upperclassmen. And leaving better players on the sidelines. But why? I believe its because Dabo was a walk-on scrub at Bama who earned a scholarship and wants to recreate that feeling for as many young men as he can. And speaking of problems, this is admirable and limiting.
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
Sep 14, 2025, 9:47 PM
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Coaching in NIL / Portal era without using portal and recruiting with guaranteed NIL would be like coaching in NFL and offering guaranteed salary or trading players.
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Thats only $30k per day. Give him a break!
Sep 14, 2025, 9:51 PM
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
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Dabo is all in for the student athlete getting an education and winning. The problem is many of ones coming in now sees on $$$. And that's great IF they are worth it, and stay healthy. But some aren't even worth it. Let alone staying healthy. And you never see the early money.
Stupid kids.
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
Sep 15, 2025, 8:57 AM
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This is ridiculous
Grow up
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
Sep 15, 2025, 9:13 AM
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Super awesome rebuttal there guy...
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This is fair. Dabo is trying to lead young men. These players just care about being paid young men.
And I can't blame them, really. I can't blame Dabo either. This is just where we are in CFB.
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Re: Here's why Dabo IS the problem....
Sep 15, 2025, 10:20 AM
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It’s called loyalty misplaced. We need to portal in some loyalty…
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