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Help me - is it "shovel pass" or "shuffle pass" and what is
Jan 3, 2005, 3:12 PM
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difference between this and a forward lateral?
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null [1511]
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I believe it is shovel pass, though there is no difference
Jan 3, 2005, 3:14 PM
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between that and a forward lateral. Just a fancy name change.
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null [1511]
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On second thought, a forward lateral is illegal. It is any
Jan 3, 2005, 3:19 PM
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sort of forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage, thus incurring a penalty.
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Varsity [103]
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Thanks to all - I just was never able to sort that one out
Jan 3, 2005, 3:22 PM
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so if you are running the option, you can "shovel pass" to the tailback, even if he is in front of you as long as you (the qb) has not crossed the line of scrimage?
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null [1511]
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Yep. Same rules as a screen pass behind the line.***
Jan 3, 2005, 3:27 PM
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shovel
Jan 3, 2005, 3:14 PM
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u are behind the line when u throw the shovel pass and a forward lateral u are passed the line of scrimmage
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TigerNet Elite [73592]
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"shovel pass" and there is no such thing as a forward
Jan 3, 2005, 3:15 PM
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lateral. That would be called a pass or a penalty on a run past the line of scrimmage. 
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Expert [1494]
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I've always heard shovel pass
Jan 3, 2005, 3:17 PM
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Maybe some refer to it as a shuffle pass but I've always heard shovel.
A forward lateral is illegal because it is passed the line of scrimmage.
A shovel pass is when the qb is behind the line and throws it forward, it is just like any other forward pass except in the way it is thrown. If it is dropped it is an incomplete pass.
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Orange Blooded [3459]
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It's shovel, and it's a pass because it is tossed forward.
Jan 3, 2005, 3:18 PM
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As long as the passer is behind the line of scrimmage anything tossed forward is a legal pass. Anywhere on the field a ball can be tossed backward. Overhand or underhand makes no difference no matter where it is thrown. That's why you've seeen cross-field, overhand passes on kickoffs -- as long as they are thrown backward, they're laterals.
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Clemson Icon [24198]
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The term forward lateral is usually used as an infraction.
Jan 3, 2005, 3:22 PM
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A shovel pass is technically a forward pass but is called a shovel pass because of the way it is thrown. Notice that a screen pass is a short pass behind the line of scrimmage too so the term "shovel" pertains to the way the ball is thrown.
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What about "shuttle"***
Jan 3, 2005, 3:24 PM
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Maybe that's what I've been hearing! ;)***
Jan 3, 2005, 3:36 PM
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null [119]
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As pointed out in Fiesta Bowl telecast - its the "Utah Pass"***
Jan 3, 2005, 3:25 PM
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Utah Pass***
Jan 3, 2005, 3:25 PM
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I always thought it was "shuttle pass"***
Jan 3, 2005, 4:24 PM
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All-American [591]
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Shovel Pass...like if you were to throw a shovelful of dirt
Jan 3, 2005, 4:28 PM
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underhanded forward...that's how it originally got its name on the west coast.
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