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ACC used to be the premier conference in basketball, baseball, and soccer
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ACC used to be the premier conference in basketball, baseball, and soccer

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Feb 7, 2025, 1:35 AM
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We claim one now.

We’ve fallen so far behind in basketball, it’s laughable.

3rd in the ACC isn’t what it used to be. Simple facts.

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Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level***

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Feb 7, 2025, 1:51 AM
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Re: Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level***

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Feb 7, 2025, 7:09 AM
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The ACC is the 4th best football conference and pretty much always has been. The ACC is the 5th best basketball conference after being the best for decades. So it has fallen below football’s level. And we still don’t have a conference title in basketball. Just for clarity’s sake.

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Feb 7, 2025, 8:26 AM
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Now that’s just retarded considering the big12 has yet to win a playoff title and lost its two biggest teams

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Feb 7, 2025, 10:32 AM
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A conference cannot be judged by its best team alone. By that logic the ACC is very likely the best in basketball this year.

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Feb 7, 2025, 8:38 AM [ in reply to Re: Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level*** ]
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Feb 7, 2025, 7:09 AM [ in reply to Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level*** ]
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The ACC is the 4th best football conference and pretty much always has been. The ACC is the 5th best basketball conference after being the best for decades. So it has fallen below football’s level. And we still don’t have a conference title in basketball. Just for clarity’s sake.

GOOD OLD VIZCOOT. SOMEHOW PLAYING IN THE SH!TTY ACC WE HAVE MANAGED TO PLAY IN 8 OF 12 FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS. WON 2 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS IN SOCCER, HAVE MADE IT BACK TO PROMINANCE IN BASEBALL AND ARE TRENDING WELL NATIONALLY IN BASKETBALL. WHY CARE WHAT THE ACC IS LIKE IF WE CAN STILL ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS.

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Feb 7, 2025, 8:41 AM
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I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE ACC, THE SEC, THE BIG 10 OR ANY OTHER CONFERENCE. I CARE ABOUT CLEMSON. BUT HEY IF YOU GOOGLE IT YOU WOULD FIND THA ACC WINS MULTIPLE NATTIES EVERY YEAR IN VARIOUS SPORTS.

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Feb 7, 2025, 11:30 AM
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I CAIN'T HEAR YOU DEROBERTS!!!!!!!!!!

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Feb 8, 2025, 5:33 AM [ in reply to Re: Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level*** ]
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It’s “couldn’t care less”
If you “could care less” it means you care

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If you are arguing the ACC is actually 3rd in football

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Feb 7, 2025, 8:46 AM [ in reply to Re: Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level*** ]
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I think that just strengthens his argument that ACC football is ahead of ACC basketball right now.

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Feb 7, 2025, 10:34 AM [ in reply to Re: Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level*** ]
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Weird, I was responding to Shack who was the one denigrating the football conference and our football program by proxy. I was just adding clarity, and I said nothing about baseball or soccer. Had you asked, I would have said the ACC is still a top conference in both. But don’t let facts get in the way of your weird Tnet grudges.

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By your logic, are you denigrating our basketball program everytime you


Feb 8, 2025, 2:59 AM
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mention the poor strength of the ACC? Can't wait to hear how it's different when you do it

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Feb 8, 2025, 6:16 PM
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Because my comments were responsive and factual. Let me know if you need any help with any of those words.

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Where was I wrong?***


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Clems­on prioritizes football more than every other ACC school.

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Feb 7, 2025, 8:41 AM [ in reply to Re: Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level*** ]
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Where do you think we rank in basketball? Probably not even in the top half of the conference.

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Re: Clemson prioritizes football more than every other ACC school.

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Feb 7, 2025, 10:36 AM
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The highest paid (+/- Scheyer at Duke) and longest tenured (after this year) head coach but you do you judge. Your handful of allies and their army of scocks will always agree.

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3rd in a horrible conference is nothing to be proud of. Why are you?


Feb 8, 2025, 6:29 PM [ in reply to Clemson prioritizes football more than every other ACC school. ]
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We don’t have a bad team, but beating up on a weak OOC schedule and then against the terrible ACC - where only 1 team is ranked - is nothing to be proud of.

I don’t care if we are football school or not, losing stinks. Quit making excuses.

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Feb 7, 2025, 7:19 AM [ in reply to Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level*** ]
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ACC basketball has been and still is significantly better than ACC football.

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Two ACC football teams made the 12 team playoff.

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Feb 7, 2025, 7:53 AM
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2/12 = 16.7% of playoff teams were from the ACC.

The ACC would have to get 11 teams in the NCAA Tournament to match that, and I just don’t see 11 getting in. With that said, it’s nearly impossible to justify ranking ACC Basketball ahead of ACC Football.




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Feb 7, 2025, 11:06 AM
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but to compare a 12-team playoff to a 68-team tournament is ludicrous. Especially given the fact that teams such as Uconn, Memphis, Butler, and Gonzaga compete at a high level in basketball.

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Thank you for the kind words

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Feb 7, 2025, 11:13 AM
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and in light of them I will respect your response.

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I'd be happy to bet that ACC Basketball advances further in the Tournament...


Feb 9, 2025, 3:50 AM [ in reply to Two ACC football teams made the 12 team playoff. ]
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All it would take is a single win in the 1st round right?

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Feb 7, 2025, 10:38 AM [ in reply to Re: Yep, ACC Basketball has fallen to ACC Football's level*** ]
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How would you even begin to measure such a thing? Pretty sure the basketball teams would win at basketball and football teams would win at football. But injuries would take a much quicker toll on the basketball teams and the football teams would eventually dominate both sports.

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SEC TV $$$ finally kicked in.***

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Re: ACC used to be the premier conference in basketball, baseball, and soccer

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Feb 7, 2025, 6:50 AM
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LOL! Not sure about Baseball. Not many ACC programs ever won the CWS.

THE SEC doesn't have soccer. SC are the only two with soccer and they play in Conference USA I believe. If the SEC had soccer they would dominate too.

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Feb 7, 2025, 6:51 AM
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Corr: SC and Kentucky are the only two SEC schools with soccer programs.

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Feb 7, 2025, 7:04 AM
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too many years of slacking Swoff caught up with the ACC.

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Feb 7, 2025, 7:28 AM
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When you have the one major media outlet, ESPN, constantly promoting one conference over and over, it’s easy to see why. What they say matters. It’s all the kids see and hear.

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It's more what ESPN gives the SEC than what they say. $$$$$$***

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Feb 7, 2025, 8:35 AM
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This campaign of SEC promotion and ACC bashing has been going on for over a decade. Maybe 15 to 20 years. They did it while Clemson made the CFP title game 4 times in 5 years and won it twice.

It has been nonstop and gave rise to one of the biggest scumbags in sports journalism, Paul Finebaum. Alabama 2018 was one of the most overrated teams in the playoff era and it was because ESPN built them up the entire time. The SEC was not as good that season but you wouldn’t have heard it from them.

The money helped them complete the takeover of all of college sports after the extensive propaganda was ingrained in the malleable minds across the country.

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Feb 7, 2025, 7:45 AM
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Y’all just love believing secespn… wait til the end of the year and the acc will have multiple teams in the sweet 16 just like every year… it’s a shame y’all can’t see past the narrative they want you to believe

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Feb 7, 2025, 7:48 AM
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It’s true, but the narrative is starting to stick after a while just like with football

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i agree that it will and has been that way for a time but money wins out and

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Feb 7, 2025, 8:18 AM [ in reply to Re: ACC used to be the premier conference in basketball, baseball, and soccer ]
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money is how you recruit these days. If we're left with this particular system then over time money will restructure the power brokers in these sports and you'll see a definite boundaries between the have's and the have nots.

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Well, this year we didn't do ourselves any favors with the early season

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Feb 7, 2025, 10:00 AM [ in reply to Re: ACC used to be the premier conference in basketball, baseball, and soccer ]
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ACC-SEC basketball matchups.

2 out of however many we played them was embarrassing. And then we handed a game to SC.

If you want to be the best, beat... somebody!

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Feb 7, 2025, 8:55 AM
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College football and basketball players are now procured through auctions. ESPN pays the SEC programs a lot more money than the ACC.

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Feb 7, 2025, 9:45 AM
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It doesn't help that the ACC lost all the old, record breaking, Hall of Fame coaches. Baseball will be fine but basketball will need some really good transfers to keep up.

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Don't think that was ever the case in baseball


Feb 7, 2025, 10:40 AM
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still is in soccer for sure. Probably lacrosse as well. Could make an argument for tennis also

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The ACC has been the nations premier conference in men's soccer...


Feb 7, 2025, 10:40 AM
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for decades and that is absolutely still the case now.

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Even more in womens soccer now


Feb 7, 2025, 11:38 AM
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The entire final four was ACC. UNC, Wake, Duke and Stanford

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Feb 7, 2025, 11:15 AM
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We are still big enough to have #### Vitale call the game tomorrow.

He's a PT P'er. Yeah Baby !

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Feb 7, 2025, 1:03 PM
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Yep those were the days. ACC basketball tourney was a must see, but probably about as popular as the Southern conference’s tourney.

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It used to be so tough that if you were 1 game over .500 you'd be tourney bound


Feb 7, 2025, 3:03 PM
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that meant win your home games and get 1 road victory. It was that tough. Not so much anymore.

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Feb 7, 2025, 3:21 PM
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This is the easiest path Brownell has had to finally get a title. It would be a massive blow to the program if we can't capture the moment....

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Feb 8, 2025, 6:05 AM
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Having lived in Houston for 20 years and enjoying the Phi Slama Jama days of Clyde Drexler and Hakeem Olajuwan, I still catch U of H basketball on youtube TV when they are on. Big 12 basketball is now what ACC basketball use to be. Every game in Big 12 conference play is like an all out war and the officials usually let it get to street-fight status before making calls. Amazing how an entire conference of teams can excel or degrade all at the same time.

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