|
Replies: 95
| visibility 6278
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
Yeah we definitely don't want children eating that's a complete waste of money
4
Mar 12, 2025, 10:08 PM
|
|
Before you MAGA idiots start quoting some alt right trash media site that claims the funds are going to only minority or gay farmers who produce meat from trans cows that illegally came over the southern border with 9 Mexican gang members each carrying a Kilo of fentanyl on their backs; realize nobody gives a sheet about your made up grievances. Good day.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/10/usda-cancels-local-food-purchasing-for-schools-food-banks-00222796
|
|
|
|
 |
Clemson Icon [24010]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 16115
Joined: 2024
|
Re: Yeah we definitely don't want children eating that's a complete waste of money
1
Mar 12, 2025, 10:15 PM
|
|
Well those children can take the jobs the illegal aliens had to pay for their meals.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
So these funds were initiated during Bidens term.
2
Mar 12, 2025, 11:29 PM
|
|
Am I to understand that children never had school lunches until 2020-2024?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
Im just reading the article you provided. It basically
Mar 13, 2025, 5:43 AM
|
|
Says that these funds weren’t about the number of meals being served, but rather the source of the food for meals already being served. So it doesn’t appear to have changed the volume of food going out the door as much as where it comes from.
As for missed meals and food insecurity? That’s terrible but those missed meals aren’t school lunches, which is what we are talking about here, and what isn’t decreasing. You seem to be throwing a lot of irrelevant data at this to elicit an emotional response. If you want to argue about the importance of the school meals being farm to table vs provided by “big food”, then that seems like a fair discussion as it pertains to this funding change, but the kids are scarfing down the same amount of food as they were before from what I can tell.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
You need to reread the article then
Mar 13, 2025, 6:55 AM
|
|
The funding isn't only for school lunches it was also for food banks and after school programs.
Also if it was just about where the food was sourced they wouldn't have just canceled the program they would have reallocated the funds to other food sources.
Bottom line 1B less is being spent now to combat childhood hunger than it was before DOGE got involved.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
From the article:
Mar 13, 2025, 7:03 AM
|
|
“ The Biden administration expanded the spending for both programs to build a more resilient food supply chain that didn’t just rely on major food companies.”
Fair enough on the food banks but this still appears to totally be about the source of the food and not the quantity of food.
It’s a Covid-era relic when everyone was worried about global supply chains shutting down.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
Again a Billion dollars less for hungry children
Mar 13, 2025, 7:35 AM
|
|
That IS going to impact the quantity and not just the source.
If the USDA had said instead, "we seek to eliminate the wasteful woke spending of the Biden administration and instead are entering into an agreement with Nabisco, Dole, and Kroger to source nutritional meals with these funds...", that'd be a whole different story.
It ain't what's happening this is just another example of DOGE cutting fast and indiscriminately so they can increase a number in a social media post.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
Based on this thread, thats your assumption.
Mar 13, 2025, 8:01 AM
|
|
You’re connecting dots that aren’t there based on preconceived notions.
I’m looking at a program being cut that was solely meant to alter food sources and not volume, and assuming that the impact of the cuts will be sources and not volume. If kids start getting handed empty lunch trays, I’m sure there will be plenty of stories for you to link.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
So your assumption is they're still going to give these schools
Mar 13, 2025, 8:12 AM
|
|
the additional $660 million, they just have to spend it with big corporations instead of local farmers?
Or can we just be honest and acknowledge that reducing funding by $660 million is the most likely outcome and that has to reduce the quantity of food.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
My supposition is that they would go back
Mar 13, 2025, 8:17 AM
|
|
To doing whatever they’ve been doing for the decades leading up to Biden signing this, when kids still weren’t getting shorted school lunches.
Step 1 to having an honest discussion about this is understanding and acknowledging what this funding did and didn’t do.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
So now you're admitting this cut reduces the quantity of food kids will
Mar 13, 2025, 8:58 AM
|
|
receive in their school meals.
But you also believe that inflation and increased school food program funding has perfectly aligned to match your preconceived notion of how much food was provided in the past?
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
So now you admit that you have zero salient points to offer to the extent
Mar 13, 2025, 10:35 AM
|
|
That making up what I’m saying is your only option. You’re two for two on this tactic with me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
Of course, everyone is just misrepresenting your argument
Mar 13, 2025, 10:37 AM
|
|
It can't possibly be the fact your argument is wrong.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
No, its just you. You really have nothing with making stuff up.***
Mar 13, 2025, 11:26 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
Whatever makes you feel better about not admitting this cancellation
Mar 13, 2025, 11:31 AM
|
|
reduces the quantity of food available to American schoolchildren.
But your entire political belief only works if you lie to yourself.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [6772]
TigerPulse: 89%
41
Posts: 13589
Joined: 2008
|
Zero it out
Mar 13, 2025, 6:18 PM
[ in reply to So your assumption is they're still going to give these schools ] |
|
They should get zero federal funding. Let the local school district figure out how to feed their kids.
Or, now this is a ufcking radical idea - how about we make THEIR PARENTS FIGURE IT OUT?
You commies are pathetic.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
Re: Zero it out
Mar 13, 2025, 11:23 PM
|
|
Catahoula®
This is precisely why playing middle of the road on this issue is a bad idea. They will gladly cut more funding for kids lunches if you are willing to concede the topic to them.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
Re: Zero it out
1
Mar 14, 2025, 1:36 AM
|
|
You're still operating under the assumption that I'm okay with the cuts simply because I'm pointing out the flaws with the OP. I am not.
Again, you're trying to continue an argument that never existed.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
This thread really sums up where we are today.
Mar 14, 2025, 6:18 AM
|
|
“Accept the premise of everything I say, even if it’s hyperbolic bulllshit, or you’re part of the problem”.
The ego required to insist on complete agreement is astonishing. Millennials are wonderful.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
Has to be rough constantly lying to yourself that you're right
Mar 14, 2025, 10:35 AM
|
|
even though all the facts always seem to show the opposite.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
Shhh sport, the adults are talking.***
1
Mar 14, 2025, 5:13 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
I'm operating on the fact you stated the cuts wouldn't hurt kids
Mar 14, 2025, 10:12 AM
[ in reply to Re: Zero it out ] |
|
because local school districts would make up for the loss of funding to ensure kids are fed.
That's exactly what they want you to believe so they can justify more cuts that will likewise be "fine"
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [37725]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 43566
Joined: 2001
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
You're correct, it's not about volume but source
1
Mar 13, 2025, 8:08 AM
[ in reply to Im just reading the article you provided. It basically ] |
|
So ultimately, it's actually local farmers who are truly getting ###### in this deal.
It will also hurt the quality of nutrition in school lunches.
The issue, IMO, is that this is the tip of the iceberg. More cuts will come that will ultimately hurt children.
I'm still baffled how cuts like this are cheered by the DOGEophiles while completely ignoring Musk's own waste he is causing our government to blow up rockets and scoot around on Air Force One. He hasn't saved us any money at all. It's just plain cronyism.
That, and slashing National Parks, which actually make the government money.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [34834]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 39000
Joined: 2003
|
DOGE program aside (because their methods suck)...
1
Mar 13, 2025, 8:32 AM
|
|
why is the federal government (1) funding school lunches and (2) telling/encouraging school districts where/how they are to source the food?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
I don't have a good answer for that...
Mar 13, 2025, 8:36 AM
|
|
For #1, I would imagine it's happening in locations where the local districts are struggling to afford it?
For #2, I'm not sure it was a mandate but rather a federally-funded option.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [34834]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 39000
Joined: 2003
|
All federal education "initiatives" are in the form of funding...
Mar 13, 2025, 9:14 AM
|
|
because they don't have the Constitutional power to directly legislate/dictate education programs. Which is a good tell that they shouldn't be involved to begin with.
I get the distinction you're making on it being an option. I would need to read-in on that because very little the federal gov does with education funding is an "option". It might be worded as an option, but there is often fine print that if that option isn't used other funding could be pulled.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [34834]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 39000
Joined: 2003
|
Is that a fact or an assumption?***
1
Mar 13, 2025, 12:13 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
It's a fact
Mar 14, 2025, 10:32 AM
|
|
unless you want to explain how spending $1 billion less in procuring food will not impact quantity.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [34834]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 39000
Joined: 2003
|
You and I define "fact" differently. You are assuming that this funding change..
Mar 14, 2025, 12:16 PM
|
|
will impact quantity and that issue has been debated ad nauseum above.
In the end, you are guessing at what might happen.
Here is a local story on SC impact:
https://www.wspa.com/news/state-news/sc-school-meals-impacted-by-cuts-to-usda-funding/
"Stevenson says in South Carolina schools, students will still be fed… but students will no longer receive as many fruits and vegetables, or as much food in general on their plates." Isn't that the contention being made by others above that you've been arguing with?
I know it's different funding, but it shows the absurdity of federal funding structure. All kids in our district are eating free at school due to remaining COVID funding. WHY?? It's insane that the district is paying for my daughter's lunch when we can clearly pay for it...along with every other student with families that have the means to pay for their kid's food.
So...again I make the point...it's not a "fact" that the cut of the ‘Local Foods for Schools’ program will mean that needy kids won't get lunch now.
And let me be clear, I think getting local foods for schools is a great idea...but it shouldn't be a federal program. I live in Anderson and if Anderson county schools won't local food for kids then the school board should find a way to make that happen. Perhaps a restructuring and reduction of admin positions could free up enough funds...or raise property taxes a bit to pay for it...or the 20 other ways that it might be able to happen.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
You literally just posted a link that PROVED my point
Mar 14, 2025, 1:20 PM
|
|
I'm really confused how you're missing the ultimate conclusion. I'm guessing because you're reading it in silos and not as a full conversation.
Catahoula: "It's not about volume but source"
Classof09: "Spending $1 billion less HAS to reduce the quantity(volume)"
Flow0440: "Is that a fact?"
Classof09: "Yes, it's a fact because spending $1 billion on procuring food has to reduce the overall quantity of food"
Flow0440: "students will no longer receive as many fruits and vegetables, or as much food in general on their plates"
Your quote from the WSPA article literally proves my point. Reducing overall budgets by a billion dollars has to reduce the amount of food on the plate. It's not just about the source of the food as Catahoula and Obed argued. The argument has always been that hungry kids will have LESS food on their plate because of things like this.
I'm not sure why you're missing such an obvious argument.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [34834]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 39000
Joined: 2003
|
I did not read the entire thread, so maybe you clarified differently...
Mar 14, 2025, 1:58 PM
|
|
the OP was clearly referring to schools not being able to offer meals now. So when I see quantity, I'm reading that you're saying quantity of meals...no amount of food in a meal.
So maybe we're talking past each other.
Certainly the rhetoric I've been hearing/reading in the media is based around not being able to offer as many lunches.
And I believe the bigger issue is federal funding vs local, as I mentioned and in the context of federal funds being used to give rich kids free lunches for the past many years.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
So your entire rebuttal is made on an inaccurate assumption you made
Mar 14, 2025, 3:18 PM
|
|
about the OP's argument? Do you feel a little bit embarrassed that's exactly what you were accusing others of doing?
The OP clearly stated his position with his third thread post
Bottom line 1B less is being spent now to combat childhood hunger than it was before DOGE got involved.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [34834]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 39000
Joined: 2003
|
Listen, I conceded that perhaps we were talking past each other....
Mar 14, 2025, 5:58 PM
|
|
and you doubled down on being a seek. That's fine.
You won't convince me that you and the OP weren't making the case that some kids weren't going to get school lunch because of defunding this program.
If all of this discussion was becaus the size of the square pizza MIGHT get a little smaller then ok, but that's pretty silly.
As I said you can wring your hands over smaller pizza while we're giving rich kids free lunch and claim we've got money problems...but you can't stop from calling it silly.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
Ah, I see. Even when proven wrong you're just going to refuse to own it
Mar 14, 2025, 6:10 PM
|
|
and even worse continue to argue that you were somehow correct. It's ok to be wrong, but it's not ok to not learn from it. We have too many adults who didn't learn that lesson as kids and it shows.
Alas, your pizza analogy doesn't even work. This isn't an issue of the pizza getting smaller. It's an issue of the pizza getting smaller from inflation while at the same time the student loses the peaches he used to eat with the larger pizza.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [34834]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 39000
Joined: 2003
|
You have done that many times in this one thread....
1
Mar 15, 2025, 8:35 AM
|
|
You haven't proven anyone incorrect. As I stated you know dang well the point was being made that kids weren't going to get lunch now and that's wrong.
But this horse has been beaten to death and you're being a deek so I'll just leave it there.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
I see you still haven't learned a lesson from being wrong***
Mar 15, 2025, 8:58 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
To be clear, Im not cheering this so much
Mar 13, 2025, 10:42 AM
[ in reply to You're correct, it's not about volume but source ] |
|
As pointing out how phony the “but what will the children eat now?” argument is.
If geech and 09 were smarter, they’d consider dropping the tired emo scare tactics and point out how a cut that potentially impacts food quality seems to fly in the face of RFK’s stated mission.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
If Obed was smarter he'd realize it's pointless to evaluate RFKs
1
Mar 13, 2025, 11:18 AM
|
|
"Mission", as it's pointless to try to find reason in the actions of those who are inherently unreasonable. The entire mission of the entire administration is to win social media and press conferences in order to increase the perceived acclaim and reputation of our supreme leader. No one in leadership at the executive branch gives two sheets about food quality, food availability, or hungry children. All that matters are numbers on a page. Trump said he believes Musk is gonna "save" a trillion dollars, this action is entirely in service of that goal; not in service of those he was elected to lead. It's laughable if someone doesn't realize that and yet tells others they need to be smarter.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
Hey.
Mar 13, 2025, 11:25 AM
|
|
It’s still miles smarter than “durr hurr you’re starving the kids!!!”
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
Are there no starving children in the US?
Mar 13, 2025, 11:39 AM
|
|
Wouldn't a billion dollars go a pretty long way in helping?
Wouldn't it make more sense to help by reallocating those funds to a more efficient method?
Doesn't just cutting it altogether get Donny closer to his trillion dollar goal?
This administration puts winning before doing what is right and best for its citizens. This is just one example of that; there are dozens more in DOGE's actions.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
You're approaching this problem wrong
Mar 13, 2025, 11:55 AM
|
|
These cuts aren't taking food away from children. If anything, it's mostly screwing over local farmers in favor of big food companies. It will lower the quality of food for the kids, but it isn't denying them food.
But give it time; I'm sure that's coming. Still, you want to refocus the argument here.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
That's a pretty wild claim to make
Mar 13, 2025, 12:34 PM
|
|
that taking $1 billion in funding out of the system designed to feed kids isn't taking any food out of the system.
You try way too hard to find a middle ground that you end up missing the fairly obvious.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
I'm not trying to take middle ground with this #### administration
Mar 13, 2025, 12:43 PM
|
|
I'm saying that getting the facts straight is important in counter arguing against it. If we hit panic buttons when they don't exist, it hurts the resistance against it.
Students were getting fed prior to this program. The program put the money in to purchase better quality, local food. What it's done now is take them back to the shittier food.
The Biden administration expanded the spending for both programs to build a more resilient food supply chain that didn’t just rely on major food companies. Last year, USDA announced more than $1 billion in additional funding for the programs through the Commodity Credit Corporation, a New Deal-era USDA fund for buying agricultural commodities.
Kids are still getting fed. It's shittier food and that's a big problem, but they aren't going hungry in schools.
Yet.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
But you're not getting the facts straight
Mar 13, 2025, 12:56 PM
|
|
It was an additional billion dollars being spent that is now no longer being spent.
It's not a situation where that billion dollars is being reallocated to more processed foods.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
States and districts will shift funding
Mar 13, 2025, 1:08 PM
|
|
New contracts will be made. It'll suck for the school districts for sure, but they're going to make sure kids get fed. It's the other areas that will suffer.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
This logic is exactly why so many people hate the government
Mar 13, 2025, 1:23 PM
|
|
People in charge think it will just find a way to work...
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
You're trying to keep an argument going with me that doesn't exist.***
Mar 13, 2025, 1:46 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
It exists, you just don't realize that's what you're arguing***
Mar 13, 2025, 2:40 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
Students were getting fed prior to this program yes, and now the budgeting
Mar 13, 2025, 12:57 PM
[ in reply to I'm not trying to take middle ground with this #### administration ] |
|
Model for most of these organizations are fundamentally changed. Resources have surely been reallocated because honestly everything at most public schools is in short supply. I got 100k in extra funding so I used it to buy 100k in fresh organic vegetables. The 50k I spent last year i moved over to the health line and hired a new nurse. Now how do I go back to buying the crap vegetables when that money is gone. We're learning that we can't count on our government for anything.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
No you're not appreciating how nuanced it is to manage resources at large orgs
Mar 13, 2025, 12:47 PM
[ in reply to You're approaching this problem wrong ] |
|
This doesn't affect JUST the quality of food but also absolutely how many meals can be served. This 1.1B was allocated to all 50 states and thousands of organizations. You don't believe any of the organizations used these new funds to create new programs or expand their current offerings; how are they gonna pay gor those now? Or maybe the organizations that used the funds to up the quality and have committed purchase agreements at higher costs; what are they gonna have to cut to put them back on budget. Resources are scarce when ,unlike the federal government, you cannot operate at a deficit. There are absolutely children who will not be served meals by these organizations as a result of the gubment making a commitment and the reneging. Contrary to what musk wants us to believe you can't just fail to honor a contract at any time you feel like it. He's running around "saving" money but it's up to the thousands of organizations down stream who've acted in good faith to mitigate the fall out.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
Let's calm our t!ts a little here, shall we?
1
Mar 13, 2025, 12:54 PM
|
|
Firstly, I'm not supporting these cuts.
Second, I get what you're saying--those commitments are now terminated and create problems.
But what is NOT going to happen is children being denied meals in schools with these cuts because they weren't being denied meals before. The big food companies will swoop back in and provide the service at a lower cost, albeit to the detriment of the childrens' nutrition. States and local district also have options. These cuts also aren't overnight effective; districts and states have been given a cushion to fill the void. And they'll fill it, just sadly with shittier food.
This all sucks, but you're not going to see hungry kids as a result of this cut. My point is your OP was alarmist and took the wrong approach, thus hurting your cause for the argument.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
There's no emotion here I'm a financial analyst with decades of experience
1
Mar 13, 2025, 1:02 PM
|
|
Managing budgets exactly like these. Hale I even began my career supporting strategic sourcing for a major restaurant chain. There will absolutely be fewer meals served as a result of these cuts. No ifs ands or buts; the real world isnt a twitter post. I've tried to explain to people here what I know to be fact; imma just have to let you guys believe what you want.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
Re: There's no emotion here I'm a financial analyst with decades of experience
1
Mar 13, 2025, 1:06 PM
|
|
I'm not questioning your expertise and knowledge; I'm just saying local governments will not let the kids go hungry. But it's certainly going to hurt in doing so. Guess we'll just have to disagree.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [48478]
TigerPulse: 100%
58
Posts: 43221
Joined: 1998
|
Agreed; it was also poor headlining
Mar 13, 2025, 11:33 AM
[ in reply to To be clear, Im not cheering this so much ] |
|
I think the presentation of this story in the media, at least in headlining, has been poor.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13266]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
Posts: 15365
Joined: 2003
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [24010]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 16115
Joined: 2024
|
Re: You may want to rethink your response Obewan.***
1
Mar 12, 2025, 11:51 PM
|
|
I am not knocking Obed, but just commenting here. I don't care how much we spend on food for our kids. I say give them breakfast, lunch,.and bag to take home after.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
Im glad to if given a reason.
1
Mar 13, 2025, 5:51 AM
[ in reply to You may want to rethink your response Obewan.*** ] |
|
How am I reading this wrong? Kids who need free or reduced school lunches have always gotten them, and they still are.
I’d respect someone who wanted to debate, with data, whether the quality of the food was going to decline, as this funding seems to influence the source of the food, not the quantity of food provided. Debating it from the angle of kids now missing meals because of this cut seems intentionally disingenuous, like so many “but think of the kids!” arguments.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
Did you read the article?
Mar 13, 2025, 8:05 AM
|
|
It's about getting the kids healthier and greater quantity of foods. This prevents the schools from utilizing alternative sources to maximize what they're providing to the kids.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
Hey, congrats!
Mar 13, 2025, 11:33 AM
|
|
You just switched to one of the talking point I suggested earlier in the thread, which was quality of food. Of course quantity concerns are still a complete fabrication based on what has been presented in this thread, but one out of two isn’t bad.
And “prevents them from using alternative sources”. Wow, not only does that not make any sense at all, it sounds a little heavy handed and terrible.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [17088]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 17912
Joined: 2015
|
Everyone's to blame except the parents.***
3
Mar 13, 2025, 6:43 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
Member that time you made a salient point; me neither***
1
Mar 13, 2025, 7:27 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [27786]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 48291
Joined: 2010
|
NO. It would be appropriate to find out what the parents are doing to support
Mar 13, 2025, 11:09 AM
|
|
those kids, though. Maybe "punish" the parents...
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
Yeah let's make kids poorer by punishing their parents
Mar 13, 2025, 11:32 AM
|
|
that will certainly help...
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [27786]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 48291
Joined: 2010
|
"Poorer"...? Are they actually working? Are they actually contributing?***
Mar 13, 2025, 11:45 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
If they aren't? What is your proposal?
Mar 13, 2025, 11:54 AM
|
|
More kids in the foster care system?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [27786]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 48291
Joined: 2010
|
NO. More parents in the Work Program.***
Mar 13, 2025, 12:04 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ring of Honor [23641]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 15179
Joined: 1995
|
The maggots only care about the children in the womb.
1
Mar 13, 2025, 6:54 AM
|
|
After that, if they can't eat? Eh, f'em!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [37725]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 43566
Joined: 2001
|
And Pewtin!!***
Mar 13, 2025, 8:30 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
National Champion [7592]
TigerPulse: 100%
42
|
Re: Yeah we definitely don't want children eating that's a complete waste of money
Mar 13, 2025, 8:31 AM
|
|
Don't forget to start the "Republicans want grandma eating cat food" thread. That's another oldie but goodie left wing kooks love to assert, right up there with "they're starving the children!!".
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
I'm a registered Republican graduate of one of the most conservative economics
1
Mar 13, 2025, 8:53 AM
|
|
Programs in the country here at Clemson. But you keep thinking everyone who points out how stupid and incompetent MAGA is is a lib
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
Makes it even odder then how much you value emotion over logic.
1
Mar 13, 2025, 11:31 AM
|
|
Are you a female?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
That's funny
Mar 13, 2025, 11:49 AM
|
|
When MAGA folks call everyone else emotional. They're not interested in logic; just the "facts" the facts that support their narrative.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [34834]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 39000
Joined: 2003
|
Is OBED "MAGA"?***
1
Mar 13, 2025, 12:15 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
A) Emotional is assuming that Im MAGA because Im disagreeing with
Mar 13, 2025, 2:12 PM
[ in reply to That's funny ] |
|
Your chicken little “the kids are going to starve” panic post.
B) anyone can read this thread and see who has been logical and who has been emotional. Your labels are irrelevant.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
Walks like duck talks like a duck
Mar 13, 2025, 2:27 PM
|
|
Wants us to believe it's an eagle
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [176167]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 72410
Joined: 2013
|
At least Im not a pedo socialist!
Mar 13, 2025, 3:19 PM
|
|
See how that works? This is fun.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [34834]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 39000
Joined: 2003
|
psst....hey geech....come here...
Mar 13, 2025, 4:35 PM
[ in reply to Walks like duck talks like a duck ] |
|
(you're not looking too good in this thread...might want to let this one go)
HTH
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
Says the guy who literally posted a link proving the guy he was arguing with
Mar 14, 2025, 1:23 PM
|
|
was right lol.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [17923]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 10804
Joined: 2016
|
Re: Yeah we definitely don't want children eating that's a complete waste of money
Mar 13, 2025, 11:20 AM
|
|
My question if the government cut $1 Billion and the schools counted on $660 million, where was the other $340 million going?
People care about you and your legacy media lies even less. Keep in mind, Rosie O. may have a room to rent.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13862]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
|
My question is why didn't you learn how to read?
Mar 13, 2025, 11:46 AM
|
|
I'm not gonna hold you hand and explain it to you, follow the link to the program description and find a 2nd grader to read it to you.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13548]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
Posts: 16891
Joined: 2010
|
The federal government shouldn't be providing food.***
1
Mar 13, 2025, 11:58 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [24010]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 16115
Joined: 2024
|
Re: The federal government shouldn't be providing food.***
Mar 14, 2025, 1:22 PM
|
|
Yeah they should. You're wrong on just about every issue. There shouldn't even be a debate when it comes to children eating.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dynasty Maker [3233]
TigerPulse: 96%
34
|
So, it looks like the main victims here are local farmers....
Mar 13, 2025, 12:30 PM
|
|
This is yet another example of the Leopard eating a face.
The farmers thought that if they voted for the Leopard, he would leave them alone. He would surely eat someone else's face, those other people that deserved to have their faces eaten.
But these farmers were wrong. The Leopard eventually gets everyone.
Chomp.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Warrior [4933]
TigerPulse: 100%
37
|
Re: Yeah we definitely don't want children eating that's a complete waste of money
Mar 13, 2025, 4:22 PM
|
|
Politico. LOL!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [27786]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 48291
Joined: 2010
|
Three frickin' question... Why is it necessary? Who's responsible? Who DIDN'T do
Mar 13, 2025, 4:59 PM
|
|
WHAT?
I think it's time to make those responsible ACCOUNTABLE! FAFO!!! ,even if it's with Baby Daddy #3.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [6772]
TigerPulse: 89%
41
Posts: 13589
Joined: 2008
|
It's Politico, so
1
Mar 13, 2025, 6:16 PM
|
|
none of it is true. Next topic.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [17923]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 10804
Joined: 2016
|
Re: Yeah we definitely don't want children eating that's a complete waste of money
1
Mar 14, 2025, 12:00 PM
|
|
Cut the waste. "American schools waste approximately 530,000 tons of food annually — about 39 pounds of food waste and 29 cartons of milk per student per year — costing $1.7 billion nationally. The study also showed that nominal interventions can measurably reduce food waste."
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [24010]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 16115
Joined: 2024
|
Re: Yeah we definitely don't want children eating that's a complete waste of money
1
Mar 14, 2025, 1:23 PM
|
|
Americans waste tons of food. Those numbers are meaningless. There will always be tons of waste with food. It's next impossible to be efficient on a large scale.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [24010]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 16115
Joined: 2024
|
Re: Yeah we should definitely give poor kids less food because a well off kid
1
Mar 14, 2025, 1:52 PM
|
|
Moreover, there are tons of kids not getting fed properly because their parents are drunks, neglectful, selfish, cruel, don't plan properly, or manage their finances properly, etc etc. Feeding the kids breakfast and lunch and sending them home with snacks shouldn't even be an issue, for all kids. We can cut corners elsewhere.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5410]
TigerPulse: 44%
38
Posts: 17556
Joined: 2005
|
Indeed. This is a discussion that if you removed the politics talk beforehand
1
Mar 14, 2025, 1:57 PM
|
|
not a single reasonable person would argue we should have less food for kids in school.
It just shows how morally bankrupt half the country is when they vote for stuff like this just to toe the party line.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 95
| visibility 6278
|
|
|
50
