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If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Nov 12, 2023, 4:14 PM
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You pretty much have all the resources in the world at your fingertips. Who would you go after?
My top 5 are (in no order):
-Mike Elko - a former DC at A&M, he understands the landscape and would know the inner-workings of the school.
-Dan Lanning - Oregon has become a stepping stone school for HCs, and Lanning has proven he can win.
-Kalen DeBoer - has turned around 3 programs into powerhouses... Has a West Coast and Midwest experience, allowing him to recruit players not normally sought after by SEC schools.
-Lance Leopold - I mean... Who wins at Kansas!?!?
-Lane Kiffin - ok... hear me out. The personalities match up, and giving Kiffin unlimited resources for recruiting might be insane!
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I'd try running on fumes for a few years
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Nov 12, 2023, 4:16 PM
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to make up for wasting $75M on a 2021 contract renewal!
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Re: I'd try running on fumes for a few years
Nov 12, 2023, 7:18 PM
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That's one drop of oil to Texas A&M and their billions of dollars from oil investments and billionaire alumni.
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Athletic Dir [1126]
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Re: I'd try running on fumes for a few years
Nov 13, 2023, 8:18 AM
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They could have waited until January and saved $10 million. Don't think money is the issue.
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Re: I'd try running on fumes for a few years
Nov 13, 2023, 2:13 PM
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During halftime at the MSState game the 12th Man Foundation gave their annual gift to the athletic department of $160 million.
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I'll eliminate 3 names because...
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Nov 12, 2023, 4:21 PM
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.... I don't think they would accept the job if offered. Dabo, Saban, Smart.
Now, other than that, if we are just playing the hypothetical game, "If the person you offered were going to say yes, then who would you hire?" I might say Dan Lanning.
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Re: I'll eliminate 3 names because...
Nov 12, 2023, 7:28 PM
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My guess would be Mike Elko as the next head coach at Texas A&M.
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Re: I'll eliminate 3 names because...
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Nov 12, 2023, 7:38 PM
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His buyout is only $5M. Aside from his connection as DC, he’s pretty cheap.
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Legend [6811]
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Curious that nobody mentions Mike Norvell at FSU.
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Nov 12, 2023, 7:34 PM
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He took the ruins of what Fisher left and rebuilt them the right way into an undefeated Noles team this year. Nobody thinks he could do the same at aTm?
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Re: Curious that nobody mentions Mike Norvell at FSU.
Nov 13, 2023, 1:12 PM
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I don't think that would be an absolute upgrade for him. He's probably got it made at FSU.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Nov 12, 2023, 4:29 PM
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Even though we would hate life if it happen, but If I were the AD for Texas A&M, my first call would be to Dabo Swinney, and the money is there so that he could hire one of the best assistant/position coaching staffs in all of college FB, and he would win there bc Dabo is cream of the crop of the CEO type HCs in all of college football. Can you imagine the NIL money he would have for recruiting plus, Kids and their parents love him, and the kids love playing for him bc he makes them feel loved by him!!!
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Wouldnt make sense on any level for Dabo to take that job***
Nov 12, 2023, 4:33 PM
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Re: Wouldnt make sense on any level for Dabo to take that job***
Nov 12, 2023, 6:29 PM
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Dabo with unlimited resources would be a scary.
If I’m the AD I would have already called him by now.
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Game Day Hero [4145]
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To win big time and consistently in the SEC he would need to
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Nov 12, 2023, 6:46 PM
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fall in love with the portal and adapt to filling holes each year with portal players. He doesn’t seem to want to date the portal, much less marry it.
I’m not hating on Dabo for not using the portal I just think it would be as important as recruiting in the SEC.
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Re: Dabo already has unlimited resources here.***
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Nov 13, 2023, 2:01 PM
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WUT? The 12th Man Foundation just presented a $160M check to their AD so they could fire Jimbo and hire his replacement. It's been reported that they paid $25-30MM for their 2022 class. Didn't work out for them, but ANY coach would love to have those kinds of resources...and there's probably only one other that does: Sark at UT.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Nov 12, 2023, 4:54 PM
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Why would Dabo give up Clemson to go Texas? TAM isn't in the most likeable
places of Texas and isn't Clemson.I was stationed in Texas for 10 months
and hated the place. Go there and see how you would like it.
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CU Medallion [20979]
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My friend got a principal position in Longview, Texas
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Nov 12, 2023, 5:32 PM
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and his wife as well.
They didn't last 3 months.
Longview? Sounds horrible.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Nov 12, 2023, 5:08 PM
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In my opinion, there is only 1 job Dabo would consider. Alabama. And I’m not sure if he would go there.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 13, 2023, 12:57 PM
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The last thing they want is a coach that benches first round draft picks for missing an appointment with a tutor. That's not the kind of program they are gonna run.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Nov 12, 2023, 4:31 PM
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Whittingham or Franklin.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 4:33 PM
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Maybe Chip Kelly
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 13, 2023, 1:14 PM
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Whittingham is a great idea. With the PAC disintegrating he might prefer the SEC West to the BIG 12. That guy can flat coach and seems to be able to create offense without many players. But I’d rather be in Salt Lake City than College Station all day any day.
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Lanning would be a home run if they could get him. If not, i think Elko is a
Nov 12, 2023, 4:32 PM
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Good hire
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Grisham***
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CU Medallion [20979]
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You can't be serious.
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Nov 12, 2023, 5:36 PM
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Just kidding. Yeah, that was funny.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 4:59 PM
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Elko is a good Coach and this fella at Louisville can Coach his sox off too.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Nov 12, 2023, 5:05 PM
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A new Board of Directors.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Nov 12, 2023, 5:17 PM
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Dan Lanning earns $7M year. He ain’t leaving Oregon for money. They’ll be in the B1G soon. And they basically are Nike’s toy project. They have money.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Nov 12, 2023, 6:25 PM
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I wouldn’t be shocked if they went after Jamey Chadwell. These high profile coaches aren’t getting the job done for them and Chadwell might be a great fit and he certainly can coach and develop talent.
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They didn't fire Jimbo to hire Chadwell. They'll go after big names.***
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Nov 12, 2023, 6:26 PM
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Re: They didn't fire Jimbo to hire Chadwell. They'll go after big names.***
Nov 12, 2023, 6:34 PM
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Problem is A&M isn’t a big job comparatively with their downturn the last decade. Most of the big names they’d want are already at better jobs.
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Re: They didn't fire Jimbo to hire Chadwell. They'll go after big names.***
Nov 12, 2023, 6:38 PM
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Going low profile at a major program also worked out OK for us…
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Dynasty Maker [3301]
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Lanning or Elko.***
Nov 12, 2023, 5:34 PM
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 5:35 PM
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Ryan Day
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 13, 2023, 1:54 PM
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Ryan Day would be a home run hire. Can’t stand the guy but he can recruit. I’d say Lanning is their target.
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Nov 13, 2023, 4:02 PM
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TAM is a step down from OSU.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Willie Fritz if you can’t get Elko
TAMU is a total downgrade for all the other guys normally mentioned in here. Why would Lanning leave for a great program he’s got going for a worse job?
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 5:59 PM
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I could see them giving Kliff Kingsbury a shot. You know he isnt happy being an OC at USC with Riley likely running the offense. Coming from NFL and decent record in College, he might excel with being able to buy players now?
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 13, 2023, 12:19 PM
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I could see them giving Kliff Kingsbury a shot. You know he isnt happy being an OC at USC with Riley likely running the offense. Coming from NFL and decent record in College, he might excel with being able to buy players now?
Not so much on that decent record. He's under .500 as a college HC, 35-40. People prop him up for Patrick Mahomes. He was 16-21 with Mahomes, also under .500 when Mahomes was the starter.
Those oil barons are going to pull off something completely crazy. It may not work but it's going to be a stunner. Either because they get their guy or they have to settle. My feeling is the top guys pass and they land on Lane Kiffin.
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I would go after Urban Meyer. I know he did a horrible job in the NFL and I personally think he is not a great human being, but he would turn A&M into a National Championship contender within 3 years.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Too much eye candy in Texas would derail him…
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 6:05 PM
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I double dog dare them to hire Prime. That would give us endless entertainment.
They were dumb enough to hire Jimbo, so you never know.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 6:10 PM
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Mike Norvell would be at the top of my list. What he has done with recruiting and able to turn a blind eye to certain things fits well there. With an unlimited cap of portal purchases and other money related matters such as NIL, to me he would be the perfect fit.
bretfsu® I am sure that you would be upset with him leaving. i mean no disrespect in asking this question, you are an excellent poster and you seem like a very good man, however have you heard rumors of FSU paying fb recruits $2000-$4000 dollars a week while still in HS as Sophomores and Juniors before they have ever committed to FSU? I read a respectable blogger and podcaster who showed receipts from the athlete's bank account from a Sophomore FB player who hadn't committed anywhere yet, and he claimed it was from FSU? Again no disrespect meant, just wondering if it was in fact true?
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Clemson Icon [26918]
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Just saw your question.
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Nov 13, 2023, 8:13 AM
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I'll try and give as good an answer as I can.
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however have you heard rumors of FSU paying fb recruits $2000-$4000 dollars a week while still in HS as Sophomores and Juniors before they have ever committed to FSU? I read a respectable blogger and podcaster who showed receipts from the athlete's bank account from a Sophomore FB player who hadn't committed anywhere yet, and he claimed it was from FSU? Again no disrespect meant, just wondering if it was in fact true
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I've heard rumors that FSU had allegedly paid a kid before committing. Don't remember the details. But, I recall it was debunked shortly thereafter.
Rumors are rampant about schools paying kids. In some states high school players can sign NIL deals.
But, FSU 1) doesn't have that kind of money and 2) the people with that kind of money are not stupid. Paying money to a HS soph or junior in hopes he will commit to your school ain't exactly the brightest idea.
There is an NIL associated with FSU. They seem to be doing a great job. But they have said there primary goal is retention, there secondary goal is portal/HS recruiting.
Look at the guys who were eligible for the NFL draft, but who decided to come back and play this year. Jordan Travis, Trey Benson, Jared Verse, Johnny Wilson along with a few others. They all came back. It is common knowledge that all got some sort of NIL deal from the collective, The Battle's End, and chose to stay at FSU one more year. No way would Jared Verse, and the others, be at FSU this year if they weren't getting 6 figure money.
How much are HS recruits being promised after they sign with FSU? I have no idea. But, as Norvell repeatedly says, "If the decision is based on money alone, we can't match the highest offer. It has to be about more than just money."
Clemson, very quietly, is doing a great job helping players on the team get NIL deals. Clemson and FSU are both showing kids, "You will have the opportunity to earn money after you are here. Here is how we can help you earn that money."
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Re: Just saw your question.
Nov 13, 2023, 12:24 PM
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"There is an NIL associated with FSU. They seem to be doing a great job. But they have said there primary goal is retention, there secondary goal is portal/HS recruiting."
Holy crap, Bret. Norvell has had so much success recruiting the portal, as a Tiger fan, I'd hate to see what would happen if that was flip-flopped. DANG
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 6:19 PM
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my money’s on snagging the elite talent Streeter from the Georgia staff
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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my money’s on snagging the elite talent Streeter from the Georgia staff
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Clemson Conqueror [12099]
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 6:40 PM
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A Cheerleading Coach that hates tradition.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
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Marcus Freeman from ND.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 6:59 PM
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The staff at Duke.
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I would go for an up and coming coach who is hungry
Nov 12, 2023, 7:40 PM
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rather than another Jimbo situation
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 12, 2023, 8:07 PM
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Ditto on Elko.
He’s got the history and makes sense financially. They aren’t getting a huge name. Elko make for a good transition until they run him out in 3 years for not winning a championship.
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Nov 13, 2023, 8:19 AM
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Muschamp
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Promote Bobby Petrino to HC...
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Nov 13, 2023, 1:04 PM
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Beamer
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 13, 2023, 1:21 PM
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Deion
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I don't see Deion being a good fit there.
Nov 13, 2023, 1:44 PM
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He isn't their kind of people.
They are going to want someone more blue collar.
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 13, 2023, 1:25 PM
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Gotta be Elko right? He has done amazing at Duke in a short time and isn't this their QB1's last season?
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 13, 2023, 1:31 PM
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Their AD met the chairman of the 12th Man Foundation on the 50 yard line at halftime to accept a $160M check during Jimbo's final game. That didn't happen to hire someone like Lanning or Elko. They are going to make a run at Dabo, as they should. I'm not saying you're going to lose him. But how much is your BOD willing to fight to keep him?
Remember, SEC divisions are going away. So they don't have to deal with Bama and LSU every year.
And before you flame me, it was Dabo's own comments that lead me to think this might be a possibility.
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I don't think Dabo would be a top consideration for A&M
Nov 13, 2023, 1:43 PM
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given our last few years.
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Re: I don't think Dabo would be a top consideration for A&M
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They hired Jimbo after a losing season, right? Just feels like we're about to witness a dramatic raise in the HC salary ceiling...and there's only a few guys that would warrant it. It makes me throw up in my mouth a little to say it, but Dabo is certainly one of them.
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Elko was Jimbo's DC at A&M for several years.
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Nov 13, 2023, 1:42 PM
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I suspect that the powers that be in College Station don't want anyone with ties to Jimbo, but perhaps the fact that he was at A&M previously and has done well since then outweighs that.
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Would love to see Lane take a trip to another SEC school
Nov 13, 2023, 1:45 PM
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And even if he doesn’t leave, he could get yet another bump in pay.
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Tiger Titan [46595]
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My money is on Urban Meyer.
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Nov 13, 2023, 1:48 PM
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He has been successful in major college football at multiple places.
He is charismatic and personable enough to sell his vision, while also being willing to operate in a gray area when it comes to recruiting. He would do great with NIL.
He's been out of coaching long enough that he's probably itching to jump back in.
If A&M is smart, they would put some sort of health clause in it in case he develops any health issues down the line. Oh, and they should also avoid the hefty buyout they gave Jimbo.
If not Meyer, I think Lance Leipold will get a strong look.
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Recruit [97]
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Re: My money is on Urban Meyer.
Nov 13, 2023, 1:51 PM
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IDK, he seems very content with his gig on Fox. I think he realized coaching was slowly killing him. He's way too high strung to get back in if you ask me.
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Athletic Dir [1126]
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 13, 2023, 2:21 PM
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Just reading the story:
The Aggies was 4th in 2020. The highest ranking since 1939 when they won the NC. So maybe, just maybe, Texas A&M ain't as good as they think they're supposed to be. Sure, everyone wants to be better. But I'm curious, they're throwing money at players, throwing money at coaches. Now they decided to throw $75 million to get rid of one. And you still need to hire a new one! How is this the road to success?
Maybe they need to start throwing money at their opponents to tank a few games.
And why do we care if Texas A&M is any good at all? Great traditions, but at the end of the day, that's about it. It's like when all the talking heads kept asking if Texas was back. As if they needed to be back.
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Solid Orange [1382]
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Re: If you were Texas A&M, who would you hire?
Nov 13, 2023, 2:59 PM
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There's a certain coach, um, in Michigan who has probably had his fill of the Big 10. Say what you want about the allegations. Most analysts I read say it's a great big double standard wrapped in a non-standard wrapped in an absurd standard and they just want to make this massive punishment mountain out of it.
So my way outside guess is Harbaugh. I know if I were the AD at A&M I would at least place a phone call.
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Tiger Spirit [9712]
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New attorneys
Nov 13, 2023, 3:35 PM
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Game Day Hero [4107]
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Deion***
Nov 13, 2023, 4:05 PM
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