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Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Say now what a stupid@ss you were for posting dumb stuff about Dabo and the portal, being behind the times, Dano only hires friends and all your other cr@p you’ve been posting. Right now you’re the dummy and not Dabo !
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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You tell 'em.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 7:32 PM
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Uhh-Oh!! He can't tell him, he made a double dirty sin and Typed 'Dano'!
Where are the Book'em guys? Hawaii 5'O is on the watch! Smitty59 gonna tell him!
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
Jan 16, 2025, 11:16 AM
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Yes god forbid making typo's...I am the worst. We tend to savage everyone that makes the critical ones.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Ok. I’ll bite. Though I didn’t post it on here, I was vocal. I said he was stubborn. I disagreed with numerous hires.
I just take the man at his word. He stated he would quit coaching if players got paid. I’m sorry, but he said it. Then look at his record of transfers after backing away from that: it’s rational to think he was stalling. I still believe he was. But hey, he’s doing it now. Thank God no d ends got hurt last year. It was bad enough as it stood.
And it’s no secret the internal hires were a mixed bag of results. But I think he’s learned now: some internal hires are beneficial. But the entire staff can’t be internal promotions. Winning the lottery has about the same odds as an internal RB coach, an internal WR coach, internal o line coach, internal DC coach all working out. There are more. But you get the picture.
So yeah, I’ll stand by my previous statements. Doesn’t make me wrong or right. He’s changed his portal stance. Went back on his quitting comment. And he has realized that at least three of the 7 internal hires many of us questioned were not good decisions.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:30 PM
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Blee blah blu blu blu 👈literally your reply
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:34 PM
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Apparently you don’t understand the meaning of the word “literally”. Which tracks with how you came to the conclusion you did.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 6:32 PM
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It does make you wrong. In real life, so decisions well work, and some won't. You expect clairvoyance. You also expect to bail on a strategy before it even gets started. Real life doesn't work that way. You have to cone up with a strategy, and give it some time to see if it works. Sometimes it doesn't work. That's life.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Maybe I’m clairvoyant. Cause the Streeter hire I was dumbfounded by. Goodwin as well. But I gave Goodwin time in my mind. Streeter? Nope. Had heard way too much about how he couldn’t develop a QB and the rumors (and watching TKaw actually shun him when he was QB coach) to trust his abilities.
But I’m not clairvoyant. I run several businesses that require skill. I don’t have time to take my friends and turn them into something they aren’t.
I’m sorry. I know you won’t agree. But to me it was a bad business decision to hire a lot of these coaches. Too much risk. Some may turn out. Dabo, in my eyes, was a bad biz decision. But it worked out wonderfully. I don’t know everything. Nor do you. Or anyone else on here. We just all have opinions.
It’s just surprising that some get blasted (this thread) for being correct. Whether they were just lucky or saw it coming.
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Re: Nothing wrong with the RB and WR hires. That, and
Jan 14, 2025, 7:35 PM
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Grisham may be awesome, I could be wrong. But for 3 years there, every WR regressed after their freshman season. Williams was/is the exception. So maybe it was bad recruiting. Maybe a run of bad luck. The drops the receivers have had over the last 4 years is telling though. Got better this past year for sure.
Bad luck at RB with 1 and 2 going down. But putting Randall in there? Maybe he’s a natural and next year he gets coached to be a stud. Or maybe there are coaching issues.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
Jan 15, 2025, 10:33 AM
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Nothing wrong with having criticized Dabo. I love the guy and hope he retires here. However, who can argue he failed with Streeter and Goodwin. He failed at not working the portal and upfront nil earlier. This set back our program which was called out correctly nationally. He is working toward correcting those wrong hires and also using the portal and nil. I support Dabo but did criticize for the in house hires and unwillingness to use the portal and nil earlier. I despise the portal and pay for play and the wild Wild West it has created as did Dabo. However, he tried without it but has now moved on.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Ok. I’ll bite. Though I didn’t post it on here, I was vocal. I said he was stubborn. I disagreed with numerous hires.
I just take the man at his word. He stated he would quit coaching if players got paid. I’m sorry, but he said it. Then look at his record of transfers after backing away from that: it’s rational to think he was stalling. I still believe he was. But hey, he’s doing it now. Thank God no d ends got hurt last year. It was bad enough as it stood.
And it’s no secret the internal hires were a mixed bag of results. But I think he’s learned now: some internal hires are beneficial. But the entire staff can’t be internal promotions. Winning the lottery has about the same odds as an internal RB coach, an internal WR coach, internal o line coach, internal DC coach all working out. There are more. But you get the picture.
So yeah, I’ll stand by my previous statements. Doesn’t make me wrong or right. He’s changed his portal stance. Went back on his quitting comment. And he has realized that at least three of the 7 internal hires many of us questioned were not good decisions.
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Never gonna happen.
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Thats because theyre cowards. Some will though.***
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Jan 14, 2025, 4:52 PM
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Jan 14, 2025, 7:40 PM
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You defended the Streeter and Wes hires even though the "haters" who questioned those hires were correct.
Then you post something like this? I am genuinely at a loss for words. The army of pumper minions will upvote you, but you can't be proud. That's some very low-hanging fruit.
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The use of the word "coward" on this board is curious to me.
Jan 16, 2025, 11:11 AM
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We're all anonymous poasters. Cowardice/courage doesn't factor in to the equation.
Message boards are nothing. Just forums.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 4:51 PM
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You think Judge Keller® will ever admit she's been wrong about Dabo? LOL....when pigs fly, maybe then.
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Some folks talk the talk, but cant walk the walk.***
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Respectfully IMHO what you are missing is that JK does not care about being right or wrong. He cares about F-ing with people, throwing what others say in your face as though you are responsible, causing divisiveness and trolling his own fan base.
Right and wrong never factors in.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 7:43 PM
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Respectfully, I am well aware of that troll's objectives/motivations. But thanks for your input.
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I wasnt wrong about Dabo.
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I said that Streeter for OC was a bad hire. I was right.
I said that Goodwin for DC was a bad hire. I was right.
I said that Dabo should have used the portal sooner. I was right.
I said that Dabo should have embraced NIL sooner or it would negatively impact recruiting. I was right.
I am wrong plenty of the time, but I wasn’t wrong about these things. The Dabo pumpers were. But I won’t hold my breath waiting on them to admit it.
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Re: I wasnt wrong about Dabo.
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Jan 15, 2025, 10:13 AM
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You thought Dabo was unwilling to do it and never believed in the man to get it all right in the end. Most of us knew it was a fluid situation and that he was working through the intricacies and that he is a winner and would figure things he out. He is still growing. Most of us knew he knew what he was doing and would get there. You didn't. There will be problems down the road too, but he will work through those and solve those as well. You didn't realize those facts. You were hard in him because CBB gets so much flack or has through the years. You took it out on Dabo and Dabo supporters. I think that sums it up.
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He was unwilling to make many of these changes, for a long time.
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Jan 15, 2025, 2:15 PM
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In several of these, it took him YEARS to recognize the issues and make changes. That is unacceptable at this level, with a program like ours, with the money he is paid.
His delay literally cost the program and university millions of dollars.
Dabo doesn't get a pass because he has finally come around on these issues, and those of you who blindly supported him don't get a pass because he has.
It's amazing to me how so many of you are patting yourselves on the back now, as if this is a huge victory for Dabo and for you homers. In reality, it makes all of you look ridiculous.
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Re: He was unwilling to make many of these changes, for a long time.
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It’s just too bad Dabo isn’t as smart as you and cannot run a football program as well as you would.
But it is a very good thing that it really doesn’t matter what you think is unacceptable or who does and doesn’t get a pass.
Is Bluffton orange guy one of your scocks? Saying people look ridiculous sure sounds like one of his lines. How’s the weather up there on that intellectual and moral high ground these days?
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the ones who need to be held accountable are the ones who blabbered on
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“Shut up and trust the coaches” “Dabo should never be questioned” “Dabo will win another natty without the portal or outside hires, mark my words”
Those are the people who were completely wrong, as Dabo himself even had to back off those views because he saw the writing on the wall.
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Re: the ones who need to be held accountable are the ones who blabbered on
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This place is a lot like a political forum. There are those that say “Dabo is a moron” and those that say things like “internal hires like the 6 made this year are dangerous and risky”. Some say “we REALLY need depth at d end and wr. Dabo’s stance is dated and unrealistic”
Both are lumped into this category: “Dabo is a dumb ###. He knows nothing. He should be fired”
It goes the other way as well.
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Re: the ones who need to be held accountable are the ones who blabbered on
Jan 14, 2025, 6:02 PM
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Blabbered on, as in nonstop complaining and noise. It’s annoying but people can do what they want until they get the banhammer
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:05 PM
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Exactly right.
Good win and Streeter were essentially the only options Dano had at the time when Elliott and BV left. Not sure what Dabo was supposed to do at the time. We were in unprecedented times with COVID, we didn’t know if it was even safe to bring in a off/def. coord from another region.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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So, BV and Elliott could go on interviews but Dabo couldn’t interview anyone? That makes no sense.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:16 PM
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Correct
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:27 PM
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So Clemson hiring someone external was not possible but at every other school it was. That computes not.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:33 PM
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Yes correct, I have zero inside information, however David Hood never reported on any other legitimate candidates .
Considering it was Unprecedented times, I’m just connecting dots here.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Let me challenge your thinking. We played ball all year. Fans went into stands 80k strong. Coaches met at midfield. Dabo recruited in person as well as the other coaches. Dabo was upset that FSU cancelled the game.
Clemson, nor Dabo, were afraid to have in person contact. Quite the opposite actually. I saw Dabo at HS basketball games in the crowd. Along with Pearman.
He chose to hire internally
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 6:08 PM
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So your assertion is Dabo refused to look further than 0.5 miles from campus to hire the 2 most important positions on his staff. That’s definitely troubling if true
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Go Dabo. These same people would criticize Nick Saban.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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I always knew he had things in the works and was feeling it out and getting ducks in a row. Do these people never learn?
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1 100% ripped his bonehead decisions, he has proved
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Many of us correct. I blasted the decision of having near first time coaches of college like his college Roomate Conn(high school), Grisham (none) Austin (ga state 1 year), Spiller (none), Goodwin(none) and Richardson(high school) all on the same staff at near the same time just 2 years removed from a National Championship (really 1).
I also blasted the fact that we didn’t sign 1 portal player that was told they had a chance to play for the first 3 years of the portal including being the only Power 4 program last year to not use it. Instead we signed major fallback high school players that many of them had some sort of friends and family connections to the program. At one point I think I counted 12 of them that were friends and family offers with little to no major offers from other programs that were taken late after we lost top offers instead of the portal. That puts us at a huge roster disadvantage but somehow that’s also the Stength coaches fault 🙄.
Now he has 100% corrected. In the last two years he has hired a new OC, a new DC, a new DL coach, a new OL coach and taken 3 significant kids in the portal this year. He is literally doing what us “haters” have been screaming for, for 3 years now. Basically he is proven he made mistakes and he is correcting those. I still believe Spiller should be gone as well. I not a fan of the combo of Richardson and Grisham too but I would be just fine with those if he let the OC go hire one guy he would want and replace Spiller who does not like recruiting.
I feel move vindicated than ever by the hires of Rumph, Luke, and Allan. Everyone knew he had to get a new OC in Riley when he did. We also did not as far as I can tell take any friends and families high school Kids this year.
You are wrong about this
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ALL DABO CULT MEMBERS MUST READ YOUR POST.
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It is spot on.
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Lol is this guy serious?
You want to know why he went to the portal? You want to know why he went outside an got a new DC?
BC HES NOT BLIND. He saw what’s happened on the field and in recruiting. That’s why he gave in and finally started using this stuff.
Like I’m really lost at how many posts I’ve seen saying something like this. Like all the sudden Dabo has proved us wrong. He didn’t prove anything except that HE made the wrong decisions and now he has to fix them.
To fix them… he had to come to terms with the reality that you can’t compete nationally without doing these things.
All that’s been proven by Dabo doing this is that the “haters” were right and everyone backing him up was wrong along with him.
It’s unbelievable that some of you think he’s proving us wrong when in reality… it’s the other way around.
We all know for a fact he never wanted to do any of this. He dug his heels in time and again until he finally realized you can’t do it the way he was 5/10 years ago bc it’s not going to work.
Just wow
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Hes had the same exact stance on the portal for years. Hasnt changed.***
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Re: Hes had the same exact stance on the portal for years. Hasnt changed.***
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Sometimes what you say does not line up with what you do…
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Bro you can believe that bs if you want but nobody that doesn’t blindly follow Dabo is buying that including a bunch of us here.
You’re entitled to your opinion of course but if you really believe that after the actual actions of the last 4/5 years then you have to be the most gullible and naive person on the planet.
Dabo has NEVER wanted to use the portal. He also wanted to hire from within his own guys. He has also refused to use NIL up front for recruiting. His own words.. “we use NIL to retain… not to acquire”.
All those things are changing all the sudden and it ain’t just bc Dabo just decided to do it.
He HAS to do it to remain nationally relevant and he’s finally realized it. That’s what happened.
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Hes signed QBs before and tried to get OL needs too
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Unfortunately we didn’t get any of those OL commitments, but we did try.
His stance has always been - we’ll go in there for absolute needs. That’s not going to change.
Our starters are good and nobody needs to be replaced. Nobody is losing their starting role to portal guys. We have some of the lowest portal attrition in the country. Occasionally we’ll have some absolute needs like a DE and LB and a rotational receiver who had 76 catches last year and may be a hidden gem, but we’re putting most of the effort in retention. When it succeeds like ours has, then you don’t have a bunch of roles open. Nothing wrong with this developmental approach. That’s the model we’ve used and will continue to use. Nothing has changed accept for getting a few this year.
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Re: Hes signed QBs before and tried to get OL needs too
Jan 14, 2025, 8:14 PM
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His stance on NIL has changed. 180. From “I’ll quit” (if players monetize) to “I’m excited about revenue sharing”. Yes I’m paraphrasing. Exact quotes. I’m too lazy to look up. And in the earlier case where you questioned my quotes, those were paraphrasing a collective. A very, very common practice.
As far as being a developmental program, I love the idea. Cohesiveness is a real thing. Culture is a real thing. But we REALLY needed some d ends this past year. Badly. We were one injury away from having nothing. And put a d tackle in a spot he couldn’t really flourish in. Not just any d tackle. One of the best in the land. Further, if you develop only and 10-15 a year transfer out, the team is perpetually young. Dabo has said, correctly, for a few years now “we are a very young team”. He’s correct. Because sophomores and juniors are being replaced by freshmen walk ons and last minute recruit fill ins.
I could be wrong, but I think he saw the problem at d end this year. But didn’t last offseason. Or just hoped a few would step up.
I really want Clemson to not ever use the portal. It’s just unrealistic.
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Jan 14, 2025, 8:16 PM
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His stance on NIL has changed. 180. From “I’ll quit” (if players monetize) to “I’m excited about revenue sharing”. Yes I’m paraphrasing. Exact quotes. I’m too lazy to look up. And in the earlier case where you questioned my quotes, those were paraphrasing a collective. A very, very common practice.
As far as being a developmental program, I love the idea. Cohesiveness is a real thing. Culture is a real thing. But we REALLY needed some d ends this past year. Badly. We were one injury away from having nothing. And put a d tackle in a spot he couldn’t really flourish in. Not just any d tackle. One of the best in the land. Further, if you develop only and 10-15 a year transfer out, the team is perpetually young. Dabo has said, correctly, for a few years now “we are a very young team”. He’s correct. Because sophomores and juniors are being replaced by freshmen walk ons and last minute recruit fill ins.
I could be wrong, but I think he saw the problem at d end this year. But didn’t last offseason. Or just hoped a few would step up.
I really want Clemson to not ever use the portal. It’s just unrealistic.
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Re: Hes signed QBs before and tried to get OL needs too
Jan 14, 2025, 10:50 PM
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Whatever you say bro.
You’re wrong but you’re going to fight to the death over Dabo and that’s fine but I ain’t got time for it.
If that’s what you want to believe then by all means but none of the bs your spouting is the reason why all of a sudden he’s done a 180.
It’s bc he absolutely had to. He didn’t have a choice anymore.
I guarantee when we started losing recruit after recruit in this past class is when reality smacked even Dabo in the face.
That’s exactly why you’re seeing us go after real portal players who will start and/or contribute.
Also if you don’t think Will Heldt is going to start then idk what to tell you. He’s absolutely going to start every game bc if nothing else… he has to. We don’t have anyone else.
Theirs no way anyone here can convince me Dabo didn’t see the lack of quality depth at spots the last couple of years. No coach with 2 national titles is blind to the holes in his roster. He just truly thought he could scheme around it or either some of his fall back recruits would step up.
I guarantee once he started watching the tapes from games this year and seeing us be gashed by opposing running games… I guarantee he said nope… can’t do this again and won’t allow this to happen again.
Again bro… I’ll respect your opinion and I know you’re going to keep coming back with more and more of the same that we both already know but you’re never going to convince me or others of what you’re saying bc it’s not true no matter how much you tell yourself it is.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:58 PM
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Say now what a stupid@ss you were for posting dumb stuff about Dabo and the portal, being behind the times, Dano only hires friends and all your other cr@p you’ve been posting. Right now you’re the dummy and not Dabo !
Dabo willingly took us from super elite to pretty good because he chose not to pay players and promoted from within. Sure it was a miscalculation but the man makes $10M per year to get it at least near right which did not happen. He has somewhat corrected the blunders but that does not excuse losing to the coots two of the last three years when the losses were totally on him. Frankly, it’s people like who thinks coaches should never be questioned who are a big part of the problem. I love Dabo as our coach but nobody should be beyond reproach as it does no one any favors
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Thats not what happened, at all.
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Jan 14, 2025, 7:07 PM
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We struggled with a sub-par QB for two years in 21and 22 with DJ, and Cade was a developmental QB who made a ton of mistakes in 23.
There is no position remotely as important as the QB. As the QB goes, so goes the team.
It’s been none of that garbage you posted.
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Re: Thats not what happened, at all.
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Jan 15, 2025, 12:51 AM
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We struggled with a sub-par QB for two years in 21and 22 with DJ, and Cade was a developmental QB who made a ton of mistakes in 23.
There is no position remotely as important as the QB. As the QB goes, so goes the team.
It’s been none of that garbage you posted.
Elite teams grab a QB out of the portal if the ones on the roster suck the same way he grabbed a DE this year. DJ also needed a WR or two out of the portal as the WR talent he had to work with was lacking. We lost multiple blue chip commits out of the 25 class because Dabo refused to pay market price for players which will bite us in 2026?as we lose a ton of talent at the end of the 25 season. His refusal to adapt caused our slide
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 6:13 PM
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Ha I for one believe Dabo needs a statue at Clemson all but has a lifetime contract.
With that being said Dabo has had to admit to himself he made some mistakes that had to be corrected if we were to ever get back to NC caliber
1. Trying to turn Clemson into a coaching factory where we bring up young coaches and continue to keep hires in house. I believe he felt he had created a program to where we didn’t need to go outside. OC, OL and now DC were failed hires.
2. He didn’t believe in utilizing the portal because he wanted to develop players we recruit. Great idea but the only problem is we were continuing to lose players and not bringing in experience. Dabo finally realized that wasn’t sustainable. He also sees all his competition fill holes and it works.
So no one feels like a fool. This hire and the portal takes are just proof those of us that criticized things over the past 4 seasons were right. I have never said fire Dabo or that Dabo was an idiot. I just disagreed with some of his choices.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 14, 2025, 6:32 PM
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Trust me when I say this: all some people heard from your post is “Dabo is an idiot. I know better. I hate Dabo”
It’s just like politics.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
Jan 14, 2025, 7:58 PM
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
Jan 14, 2025, 6:37 PM
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Well this, and the fact the secretaries read TNET and pass along our suggestions; using the portal, less internal hires (friends and family), hiring coaches with nada experience, etc. Dinosaurs die off, Dabo adapted and thanks to the secretaries for passing along the suggestions…
‘Nuff said, can’t we at least be happy now?
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We are not replacing portal departures with portal incoming.
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Jan 14, 2025, 7:13 PM
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None of our transfers were starters, and weren’t not building “depth” with the portal either. Portal guys aren’t transferring to be depth and there are no elite teams building “depth” through the portal. They’re bringing in guys who are expected to start .
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Re: We are not replacing portal departures with portal incoming.
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Jan 15, 2025, 6:54 AM
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Absolutely not true. The LB and WR we took are depth players and will not start. Take that to the bank. The DE will start.
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You know you'll get a bunch of upvotes for this, but if anything...
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Jan 14, 2025, 6:56 PM
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...all of this means that those who dared question the "all mighty Dabo" (haters, you call them) were correct.
I am not going to explain it further, but you know exactly what I am talking about. Pander on, though.
Stil, I am glad to see the changes; they are long overdue. Now, let's go and get back on top.
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Re: Question Dabo?
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Jan 14, 2025, 7:42 PM
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Thats your curious Case Study!
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Yawn.
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Jan 14, 2025, 7:46 PM
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Get all the mileage out of this emotional post you want.
However, you'd never admit how wrong you were about the years of defending the bad coaching hires Dabo made, even after HE admits it by firing them.
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Post the one(s) you are referring to
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Jan 14, 2025, 7:51 PM
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and we can discuss.
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Re: Post the one(s) you are referring to
Jan 14, 2025, 8:09 PM
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LOL. So you're saying that's not true, prove it? Hahaha. A good laugh, Francais. Thank you for that.
Now, can you unbookmark my post?
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Im offering to have a conversation with you about the topic you brought up
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Jan 14, 2025, 8:15 PM
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but I’d like to not be at a disadvantage by being the only one participating in the conversation who is not sure exactly what you are referencing. I’m certainly not going to admit something without knowing what it is I said.
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His knees knock like a jacked off hummingbird.***
Jan 15, 2025, 2:26 PM
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Dabo hasn't changed
Jan 15, 2025, 2:24 PM
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Wes was a place holder until the right hire came along. The portal players who Dabo wanted for talent and skill were mostly treasure seekers in search of a motel rather than a home.
OK, I can't say all that as fact but neither can you claim what you said is fact. It's a matter of perspective and yes, I consider ideas which are opposite of lashing out while suffering a lack of information, knowledge, understanding and other factors which lead to wisdom.
You guys should be accused, not of jumping to thoughtless conclusions but of ###### them.
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Hold on a second
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Jan 15, 2025, 7:01 AM
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You included a bunch of topics in your initial post. A Dabo supporter can also be honest and critical. Dabo has made mistakes. He hired unqualified friends that have now been fired. He criticized Clemson fans and called us ungrateful when we started pointing out the shortcomings of the unqualified friend coaches. Dabo himself looked stunned and frustrated this season when the Clemson defense could not stop a nosebleed.
I have noticed that every time I am feeling something is off with the team , David Hood will write a spot on article stating my exact feelings. I will say this, Dabo is a great coach that can be very stubborn at times. I am glad that a fired up Dabo appears to be back.
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That was a stupid ### post.
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Jan 15, 2025, 9:37 AM
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No one hates Dabo.
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^^^this girl is well versed in stupid and post***
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
Jan 15, 2025, 9:41 AM
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So posting things that were true at the time
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Jan 15, 2025, 9:54 AM
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makes us ######### when he finally realized he had to reverse course?
Doesn't calculate.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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Jan 15, 2025, 10:09 AM
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Say now what a stupid@ss you were for posting dumb stuff about Dabo and the portal, being behind the times, Dano only hires friends and all your other cr@p you’ve been posting. Right now you’re the dummy and not Dabo !
Dang it only took Dabo how long to supposedly right the ship. We missed opportunities for years. Don't expect it to rebound as fast as you think.
On the other hand glad he finally saw the light. Happy for him and us.
Go Tigers
PS You have a selective memory or you were not following Clemson football the last 4-5 years.
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As a Dabo fan, it's probably early to be spiking the football. I'm optimistic...
Jan 15, 2025, 10:55 AM
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... VERY optimistic, but that needs to translate onto the field before I start believing my opinions are validated. I was way too optimistic before the Duke game last year and I was way too pessimistic about Cade this year.
I was critical this year because I thought our defensive coaching was a dead end. I was critical last year because I saw our offense AND defense wasn't developing and our coaching staff seemed to be in denial about it.
I was wrong about Cade before this season but I was right about Goodwin. I have never turned against Dabo even though I have criticized the hiring of WAY too many experimental coaches. Dabo is obviously fixing this now. We all learn until we die.
I always supported Dabo's handling of the portal. I always knew he would use it when he saw a need.
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I don't believe anyone here hates Dabo.
Jan 15, 2025, 2:18 PM
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I believe those whom you address simply think their hindsight is better than Dabo's foresight. That doesn't mean they hate him, that means they are egotistical fools.
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Re: Dabo haters. You know who you are. Hold yourself to the standard you preach.
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There is plenty of ammunition for both sides of this argument. Mind you WE think Allen is a good hire...we have yet to field a team. Riley has yet to really prove himself. We were good this year, but can he sustain that?
Hiring people is often a gamble. We all need to remember that Dabo was hired as an interim coach. Clemson blind squirreled them selves into that. No one had even the foggiest notion that he would lead us to two championships.
So fans criticize. To me the best fans want to think and talk about what is wrong instead of blindly cheering for failure. Dabo failed with Streeter. He failed with Goodwin. He failed with Austin.
But the mark of all good business managers is the ability to move on from their failures. It is said the average entrepernuer goes bankrupt at least once. It is about taking risks and Dabo has done that.
To me the best place is to have middle ground. Critisize like crazy...don't go overboard with knee-jerk calls to fire Dabo because of a 3 loss season...that's just stupid. But as a fan its part of being a fan to talk smack and to declare hopes and desires for change.
The bottom line here is that Clemson is still trending in the right direction. It seems like we got the offense on track. Then we've retained a ton of players on both offense and defense. Next season could be another championship juggernaut run...we'll see.
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