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Rival Killer [2636]
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With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:20 PM
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It would definitely be different and would be some really big games...
Auburn
LSU
Tennessee
Texas
Missouri
Florida
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Georgia
Alabama
Would be interesting..
One thing is for sure - College football as we know it is about to change and Clemson has some extremely important decisions to make.
Saluda Valley today. 37-37-74.
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I would rather do away with our football program
Jul 23, 2021, 8:21 PM
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than join the SEC.
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CU Guru [1541]
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Re: I would rather do away with our football program
Jul 23, 2021, 8:27 PM
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I second that, Judge. To heck with the SEC.
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Rival Killer [2636]
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CU Guru [1541]
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Re: I understand
Jul 23, 2021, 8:29 PM
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Those games can still take place. I enjoy when Clemson plays SEC schools. Always have. However, Clemson belongs in the ACC. To me, it was an Upper South Conference before all the northern additions started happening. Clemson is an Upper South school, but that’s just my opinion.
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Clemson Sports Icon [59614]
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Re: I understand
Jul 23, 2021, 9:42 PM
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The ACC is the controller of schools playing sports, Clemson don't belong to the ACC!!! Clemson belongs to where what it does best in sports that will better serve Clemson!!!
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Dynasty Maker [3153]
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Re: I understand
Jul 23, 2021, 8:59 PM
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The games would be great. But we have come to loath the SEC so much that I could not support it. 10 years ago yes.
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Rival Killer [2905]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:27 PM
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If we assume that Texas and Oklahoma are indeed joining the SEC as schools 15 and 16, and the SEC wants to add two more to go to 18 and stop there, then I would not want to make that move.
However, if the SEC is planning on completely taking over the world and wants to go to 20 or 20+ schools, and if we get to bring along some regional friends that care about football, then I would want to be a part of that. Basically, I would only want to do it if we have a block of friends with us and because not making that move would leave us in the have-nots.
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Dynasty Maker [3561]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:32 PM
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According to the rumor mill from a few years ago, I think I remember reading something on here about a secret pact between Clemson, FSU, and GT that we all stick together no matter what happens. This time, GT may be left holding Charlie Brown's trick-or-treat bag full of rocks when this thing is over
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Rival Killer [2905]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 9:25 PM
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The one big thing that Georgia Tech has going for them is Atlanta.
The other thing they have going for them is their AAU membership. That, as well as being in Atlanta, would probably be appealing to the B1G if the SEC did not take them (in this fantasy scenario).
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Campus Hero [13218]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 9:40 PM
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Well they are the Ramblin ATL's now or the Ramblin 404's.
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Game Day Hero [4391]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:31 PM
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If it were only football sure.
Since we have an actual university, no.
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Hall of Famer [8494]
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No. What's the big deal?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:33 PM
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One or two teams per conference making the playoff. Each conference champion in the playoff. Making one huge conference makes no sense.
T A&M and Arkansas will vote against UT and OU joining $EC. Maybe Missouri.
$EC already has long term deal with E$PN. Will there now be more pieces of that one pie? Each school getting less revenue?
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Dynasty Maker [3522]
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Re: No. What's the big deal?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:36 PM
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The SEC will have materially changed. So will the TV contract. More money
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Re: No. What's the big deal?
Jul 24, 2021, 1:19 AM
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But the $EC has a long term contract with E$PN. Not sure E$PN would be required to renegotiate.
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Hall of Famer [8494]
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No. What's the big deal?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:33 PM
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One or two teams per conference making the playoff. Each conference champion in the playoff. Making one huge conference makes no sense.
T A&M and Arkansas will vote against UT and OU joining $EC. Maybe Missouri.
$EC already has long term deal with E$PN. Will there now be more pieces of that one pie? Each school getting less revenue?
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Dynasty Maker [3522]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:37 PM
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I don’t think there would be a choice if the SEC decided to go to 20 teams. We either move up to the east side or move down to the west side.
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CU Medallion [20468]
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Absolutely!
Jul 23, 2021, 8:39 PM
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Who wants to be overshadowed economically and downplayed in the marketplace?
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National Champion [7507]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:45 PM
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There is a lot I disagree with, as far as the SEC goes, but love him or hate him, Greg Sankey (maybe I screwed that up), has done what he’s supposed to, advanced and promoted the SEC.
There’s also a lot I dislike about the ACC. Whether it was the ACC Network deal or Notre Dame, he has left the ACC in a mess. We’re years behind the SEC and Big 10. If it wasn’t for Clemson, the ACC would be on the level of the MAC.
Clemson isn’t going anywhere, but if they did go to the SEC, I wouldn’t be too upset.
The SEC is setting it up to be able to tell the NCAA to kick rocks. They will be too powerful and big to go up against. It’s not right, but the ACC better get to adding some schools…..
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National Champion [7507]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:47 PM
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Meant to say Swofford. Swofford left the ACC in a mess.
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Dynasty Maker [3522]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 8:49 PM
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Absolutely he did. What a miserable, UNC-ring-kissing failure.
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Clemson Sports Icon [57844]
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CU Medallion [19370]
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Athletic Dir [1175]
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CU Medallion [20437]
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I just want to be in the best position for
Jul 23, 2021, 8:50 PM
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Clemson to be stable and competitive. If that means the SEC, then so be it.
But I have never understood the conference pride thing. I would never chant ACC and sure as heck would not do that in the SEC.
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110%er [3741]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 9:03 PM
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NO TO THE SEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Orange Blooded [2300]
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they wanted us a while back coots black balled us***
Jul 23, 2021, 9:06 PM
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Campus Hero [13218]
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Re: they wanted us a while back coots black balled us***
Jul 23, 2021, 9:43 PM
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Coots will be just one in 16 votes now. They ain't .....
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Orange Elite [5578]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 9:27 PM
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Would join in a second. Great games every week as opposed to wake forest and b.c.
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Orange Blooded [2513]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 9:36 PM
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As I have said earlier, why would anyone in the SEC East want those two in the conference. That would push Bama and Auburn into the East and make the Championship game almost impossible for anyone else than Bama to get into. It would almost guarantee the Coots 5 losses each year before the season started.
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 9:34 PM
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What would it really change-
It would still be
Alabama/Clemson
Georgia
everybody else-
so why move to the SEC-
Besides that I can't spell SEC very well
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Clemson Sports Icon [59614]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 9:38 PM
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It wouldn't bother me at all bc, Dabo has already proven that he can line his team with the best and win!!!!
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 9:45 PM
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If Texas and Oklahoma go to the SEC, then absolutely. I don’t want Clemson left on the outside looking in being the only top ten level football team in our conference right now. Ohio state and Michigan and Penn state would be in a weird spot too. With Oregon and USC.
Plus I would much prefer to watch Clemson play Georgia, Florida, alabama, lsu. Those are exciting match ups.
The SEC is definitely full of itself and some years way over rated. Like constant benefit of the doubt in rankings beating each other boosting each other. But even the overrated years they have still been the best conference or at least an argument as best.
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All-In [10589]
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You should hit more range balls
Jul 23, 2021, 9:48 PM
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You aren’t very good
I shoot 74 I want to slit my wrists not post it
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Ring of Honor [22983]
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Yeah, Bulldawg should watch more golf instruction videos.
Jul 24, 2021, 10:40 AM
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Good thing is he’s already got the weight lifting part conquered.
~JKB
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Orange Beast [6573]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 10:29 PM
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Money is the reason for anyone to move. Sooner or later if schools don't start doing what is right for the game then it's over for everyone. College Football needs a nation wide appeal.
If certain schools or parts of the country feel they don't have a chance then the game will suffer.
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Not with the way the SEC sniffs
Jul 23, 2021, 10:56 PM
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Their own farts and chants SEC like the jocks in revenge of the nerds
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Jul 24, 2021, 12:12 AM
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 11:12 PM
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If we joined how would you continue to duck us as many years as you have in modern times?
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 23, 2021, 11:19 PM
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I don’t believe the SEC is interested in Clemson at all, but of course Clemson would join if given the opportunity.
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 24, 2021, 12:14 AM
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Things are going pretty good for us lately. I’m good with the status quo.
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Athletic Dir [1147]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 24, 2021, 1:49 AM
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If these rumors are true and Clemson doesn't move then in the near future our Tigers could be on the outside looking in. Also this has much bigger implications in that if the SEC goes to 20+ and another mega conference emerges we could be looking at the end of the NCAA as we know it....
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 24, 2021, 1:51 AM
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Well, there is that pesky little $50 million exit tax for any school that leaves before the current “grant of rights” fees agreement with ESPN that doesn’t expire until 2036. Every ACC program signed the agreement as part of ESPN and the ACC creating the ACC television network in 2019.
Notre Dame also signed the agreement as part of the ACC in all sports except football. So they can’t go anywhere other than the ACC. Unless they want to pay $50 million.
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Athletic Dir [1147]
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Jul 24, 2021, 2:02 AM
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If the sec is pursuing this I am sure that they are aware of the buy out and have a plan.... this smells Disney all over it... for the mouse kingdom these buyouts are nothing.
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110%er [3792]
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I absolutely hate the SEC
Jul 24, 2021, 2:58 AM
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But I would love to see Clemson in the SEC. Why? Why not? First and foremost....better games. Playing the same old weak teams year in and year out is so boring. And Clemson has stronger rivals in the SEC. South Carolina, Georgia be and Alabama. We don't really have any interesting rivals in the ACC.
Second reason..... speaking of rivals....the UofSC game would be a conference game. This would free up a spot for us to play anyone we choose. Plus it gives that game so much more meaning.
Third reason.....$$$$$$$$$$$$$! Clemson will make far more money.
And reason number 4: recruiting. Yes we are doing well in recruiting at the moment. But in the SEC we would do even better. Plus, we would have a multi billion dollar corporation promoting us.
But it's all for not. The SEC will NEVER invite Clemson!
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Freshman [10]
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Re: I absolutely hate the SEC
Jul 24, 2021, 6:35 AM
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The allure of better games.
The vision of the next 5-10 years and with NIL, the playoff expansion and transfer portal…recruiting will be affected dramatically in a way that the ACC could suffer.
$$$
Not sure if we wouldn’t ever be invited. Immediately we would become the elite team aside from Bama. They would hate us.
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H3ll to the naw...***
Jul 24, 2021, 6:41 AM
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Rival Killer [2907]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 24, 2021, 6:43 AM
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AT this point, I think going to the SEC is our only option unless we could convince FL, UGA and ND to join the ACC which won't happen.
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Orange Blooded [2278]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 24, 2021, 6:55 AM
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Bulldog, would you guys want to join the ACC? You give up a little bit of money short term to have a better chance to become relevant again long term. If you were to end your National Championship drought that has spanned 2 millennia, then I am not sure the money wouldn't even itself out, and would you really care anyhow?
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 24, 2021, 9:37 AM
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Clemson needs to make the best choice for Clemson. We already play more games against SEC teams than most.
If the SEC survives the realignment/restructuring over the next 5-10 years, it will be in name only. I don’t expect the landscape to resemble what we’ve typically called the Power-5.
Clemson will be part of the equation, as they are an elite program.
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Personally, I love college football and would enjoy games at new venues.
Questions to you:
Do you think Georgia would vote to add Clemson?
How would the other SEC schools vote?
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Clemson Sports Icon [57844]
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Re: With talk of Clemson to the SEC. Would you guys want to join the SEC?
Jul 24, 2021, 10:03 AM
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I've never liked the SEC, but at this point, Clemson has to consider what is best for Clemson. Swofford's bumbling and lack of vision for the ACC has put the league way behind money-wise. Everything is changing, therefore there cannot be a decision made on emotions and/or devotion to the ACC. I've slept on this and it's what I'm thinking today. Lol.
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Ring of Honor [22983]
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Having coots rejoice when we win big games…
Jul 24, 2021, 10:35 AM
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And wearing Clemson gear in January? And congratulating us by saying “Thanks for winning that championship for us! Joining our conference made y’all better! SEC! SEC! SEC!!!”
GOOD LORT, NO!!!
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