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Catching up on injuries and NIL
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First off, Happy Thanksgiving and rivalry week!! I hope everyone can spend time with family and friends this week and enjoy what promises another chaotic weekend of college football.
Let’s get right to it. I know everyone wants to know about injuries. I feel good about most of the guys being healthy – expect Briningstool and Mickens and Leigh and Woodaz all to return and be ready for the Gamecocks. My two question marks are Demonte Capehart (which, if Clemson goes with a 3-3-5 is not a big deal, and with Peter Woods moving back inside is still not a big deal because of how the other DTs are playing) and Marcus Tate. Those might be decisions of get them on the field at 10 AM Saturday and see how they feel. Just not sure on either one right now. If Tate can’t go, I would expect Tristan Leigh (LT), Harris Sewell (LG), Ryan Linthicum (C), Walker Parks (RG) and Blake Miller (RT).
Now, let's go on to recruiting and some NIL/House stuff. Clemson has lost recruits recently because of money. There is a perception that Dabo Swinney doesn’t like or use NIL, which is wrong, but he does draw the line on certain dollar amounts. There is good news on the way there, and it may come as early as Tuesday regarding how Clemson uses NIL and some new donors and how the school looks to compete and thrive in this new world. A lot of behind-the-scenes stuff has been happening for months, and I’ve been told, “We aren’t going to lose any of our current players because of money, and we are going to be aggressive in the recruiting and portal market.” To me, that means the next seven months (because the House deal with shared revenue will take effect next July 1) are critical. Schools are overspending right now, and it shows.
As for that portal, we all know the elephant in the room. One big donor told me Saturday he would love to give GENEROUSLY to NIL but refuses until the Tigers prove they are serious about using it. We've heard it before, and the proverbial proof is in the pudding, but I feel strongly that we are going to see Swinney and staff using the portal to help overcome some of the recruiting losses. I guess we will see.
Big week ahead. Big week. Big few months ahead as well.
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Thanks David!!
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Nov 25, 2024, 11:33 AM
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I was reading some stuff online last night where someone was saying something big was coming regarding our NIL usage. Didn't know whether it was someone blowing smoke, or if real. Thanks to you, I can know trust it....something good is coming!!
I'm curious to hear exactly what it is.
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110%er [3641]
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Re: Thanks David!!
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Nov 25, 2024, 8:04 PM
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I was reading some stuff online last night where someone was saying something big was coming regarding our NIL usage. Didn't know whether it was someone blowing smoke, or if real. Thanks to you, I can know trust it....something good is coming!!
I'm curious to hear exactly what it is.
Was that out on Tiger Illustrated? That forum has a lengthy thread about IPTAY related meetings and BOT members in recent days. It’s been understood for awhile that the NIL collective would be absorbed under IPTAY when necessary preconditions are in place. That’s the game changer news I’ve been waiting for.
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Re: Catching up on injuries and NIL
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I was thinking it has gotten to be that the portal is all you can do going forward. There is no other choice. You do a great job recruiting and bam GT comes in with a payday. High School recruits I feel unless they are top rated will be the ones feeling left out except from small schools needing 2’s and 3 stars to compete.
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Starter [255]
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Re: Catching up on injuries and NIL
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Nov 25, 2024, 12:06 PM
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Awesome info as always!
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Game Changer [1652]
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Re: Catching up on injuries and NIL
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Nov 25, 2024, 12:12 PM
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Can’t wait to hear the news. Anyone got insider info?
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Ring of Honor [21951]
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Re: Catching up on injuries and NIL
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We heard this same song and dance with 110 society. We hear “Dabo is going to use the portal this offseason” every single November only to lay an egg every year.
Clemson continues its half @$$ effort at modern college football and I don’t suspect this will change that. Just more fluff. Until philosophy changes nothing will.
And I’ve been saying for 3 years now that if Clemson finds itself lacking NIL funds it’s not because of a lack of willing donors, it’s because of a lack of trust that the money will actually be used.
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Dynasty Maker [3415]
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Re: Catching up on injuries and NIL
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Hey how about you shut the #### up?
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Did I hurt your wittle feelwings?***
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Game Day Hero [4364]
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Re: Did I hurt your wittle feelwings?***
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Nov 25, 2024, 10:28 PM
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Everything you said was spot on. 👌 Great post! It's hard for some to read the truth.
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Playmaker [354]
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Re: Did I hurt your wittle feelwings?***
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It’s chicken scratch that’s all and the both of you should get out of bed and take a shower….hippie
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When theres something regarding NIL and Portal
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Nov 25, 2024, 12:20 PM
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To be positive about let me know.
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Valley Legend [12212]
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Re: When theres something regarding NIL and Portal
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Nov 25, 2024, 1:02 PM
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There was a post above that was positive which started the thread. Some might find it negative though. I must have missed the negative part. I saw some good news . Some say I don't read good though and my grammar is off. Thanks for the help. I guess we are doomed in the future. I might not even watch the South Carolina game now. Why even care? Thank you for helping me see the light.
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Re: When theres something regarding NIL and Portal
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Nov 25, 2024, 1:18 PM
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Conjecture, rumor and rumblings isn’t positive. It’s just conjecture, rumor and rumblings.
Until something positive portal or NIL related happens with our roster there is nothing positive.
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Valley Legend [12212]
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Re: When theres something regarding NIL and Portal
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Nov 25, 2024, 2:05 PM
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Okay. Sorry it hasn't happened today yet.
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Ring of Honor [21951]
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It hasn't happened for 6 years yet
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Nov 25, 2024, 2:20 PM
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Let's not pretend this is all something new.
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Valley Legend [12212]
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Re: It hasn't happened for 6 years yet
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Nov 25, 2024, 3:12 PM
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The new outlook being mentioned is new.
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It's immaterial***
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Valley Legend [12212]
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Re: It's immaterial***
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So you think people are lying. Would it be inmaterial if someone offered you a new better paying job that you would like more, or would it all be inmaterial until the day you started? The promise of the new and better job would be nothing to see as a positive. Odd way to think.
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Ring of Honor [21951]
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We've been here before with these "new ideas"
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Nov 25, 2024, 3:54 PM
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Here's Graham Neff on 11/17/2023
“110 Society is the next evolution of Clemson NIL that will be a difference-maker for our student-athletes,” said Graham Neff, Clemson University Director of Athletics. “Creating this ‘one-stop NIL shop’ that’s aligned with IPTAY, our corporate partnerships team and our community makes it clear and simple to engage in NIL with our student-athletes who are in high demand. We believe this is a critical piece to helping our programs continue to win championships in this new era of college athletics.”
Fast forward to 11/25/2024 and our recruiting class is ranked 30th!!
Excuse me if I don't buy into the charade anymore.
Until philosophy changes take place, these efforts to outsmart other schools isn't going to work.
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Letterman [191]
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Re: We've been here before with these "new ideas"
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I wonder why no one responded to this post...? CUAtTheFinishLine® isn't wrong.
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Associate AD [1013]
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Nov 25, 2024, 12:22 PM
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David,
Are you indicating that the money the collectives have raised has to be spent (buying players) prior to July 1st (when the House vs NCAA settlement goes into effect)?
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Rival Killer [2920]
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The House settlement already has legal challenges lined up against it
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Nov 25, 2024, 4:19 PM
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Specifically the NIL clause.
The NCAA has no legal right to interfere in private NIL in any way without an antitrust exemption. They don't have one.
A couple of legal minds I trust say that the "NIL" the House settlement is talking about is actually the school sponsored revenue sharing (school NIL) and not private NIL. Given the legal climate, that would make sense.
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Clemson Conqueror [11216]
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National Champion [7433]
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Re: David Hood. Good news but
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I have a question.
If we lost recruits due to money and we have this change being announced this week, why didn’t this sway those we lost?
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Is it possible we reel any of those back in?
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Valley Legend [12212]
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Re: David Hood. Good news but
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Nov 25, 2024, 1:10 PM
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Maybe it hasn't happened fast enough and hasn't been seen to believe by some recruits?
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Re: David Hood. Good news but
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Nov 25, 2024, 3:14 PM
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David said we're not planning on losing CURRENT players bc of money.
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Great stuff, thank you***
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Nov 25, 2024, 1:05 PM
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OMG
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Nov 25, 2024, 1:11 PM
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At first I misread a word in your second paragraph; you wrote expect, but I read it as except.Big difference. Glad I read it wrong.
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Valley Protector [1460]
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Re: OMG
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Nov 26, 2024, 9:03 AM
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You definitely weren't the only one..
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Game Changer [1601]
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110%er [4099]
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Will schools be able to use both NIL and revenue sharing or is revenue sharing replacing NIL?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99913]
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Uh oh. Bluffton OrangeMan just burst a blood vessel. He'll be along soon to
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set you straight.
Bluffton OrangeMan
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Rival Killer [2920]
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You are FOS. Nothing here can do that.
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Nov 25, 2024, 7:27 PM
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And if you looked around instead of just 💩 posting, you'd see that I already gave my opinion and some facts about it. Duh.
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Game Changer [1685]
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Re: You are FOS. Nothing here can do that.
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I think Dabo's presser today was helpful for the 'lay-man' such as myself. I understand there are a lot of legal subtleties in the background, but the optimism/messaging seemed to have confidence that once July hit we were going to be in a better shape to take advantage of the format with clear conscience.
Again, the lawyers/details may present a picture closer to yours and would be binding, but I'm hoping we benefit from a 'orange-tinted gray area' being firmed up between now and then.
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Rival Killer [2920]
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Correct. Schools can use both.
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It's nice to see that somewhere understand that.
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Yes. Even the 3rd party nil has to go thru the school and the school can be penalized if abuses occur. At this time anyone can do anything. This is why Nike Oregon is #1 and will probably win the natty. Go buy your self a team or players and pay 12 million or even more if you like per person. This is why we are seeing SMU Miami and Louisville have a pulse. This is also the reason S.C. is competitive in football
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National Champion [7552]
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Utilizing the portal is something half the fanbase has been wanting Dabo to get serious about.
We’ve been gaslighted by the other half claiming we don’t need it. I can’t wait until we finally do. It’s going to be great.
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I think you made up those stats.***
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National Champion [7552]
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Re: I think you made up those stats.***
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I called 6 people and asked. You don’t trust polls?
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Re: I think you made up those stats.***
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Were they all democrats?
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Orange Beast [6317]
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NIL question
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David,
If a booster has a legitimate business, isn’t the booster able to go under contract with a recruit to advertise for their business without the involvement of a NIL collective? In other words, if I had a bunch of money and owned a pancake house, couldn’t I just contact and fund five star offensive line recruits without anyone at Clemson knowing a thing or being involved?
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Let's hope all of this is the case. I would love for the program to be competitive again and not just beat worthless programs.
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The school has to be involved in knowing about any involvement with its athletes by a 3rd party after 7-1-2025. Until then line up and deal directly with the recruit offering him what ever your heart desires
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Legend [6811]
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Dang my multi million dollar donation was supposed to be anonymous.
Lol.
Glad to hear the good news.
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National Champion [7924]
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Thank you David, and that recent recruit who left for GT, bye
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and hope that little bit of extra money is worth choosing a lame football school over a possible ACC title and national title.
Bidding on a player that has proven 0 at the collegiate level is a bit of a sad story on both college football and on society in general. Highest bidders only, like they are some kind of antique mantle piece. Crazy world!!
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LOL, we arent possibly winning any national titles anytime soon.***
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National Champion [7924]
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"We" certainly are not but Clemson possibly could
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and Georgia Tech certainly is not but its just conjecture.
Nobody knows anything after a season like this.
I will continue to be a Clemson fan and hope for the best outcome year in and year out, perhaps others could do the same if they are actual Clemson fans.
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Good news to hear. Let’s keep funding that NIL though and everything will fall in place. Ever Loyal.
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Thanks David as always!
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Nov 25, 2024, 2:44 PM
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Happy thanksgiving to you and your family!
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I will believe it when I see it.
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And if I do, I’m asking, “What took you so long?”
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Re: I will believe it when I see it.
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Maybe it took trying to figure out which cheerleaders to dress out on game day due to losing so many recruits … there are just so many friends, family and HS walk ons. We’ve painfully seen how well they’ve played when put in the game ..
Good news hopefully ..Go Tigers !!!!
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Re: Catching up on injuries and NIL
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Thanks for the update David. Have a good Thanksgiving. Go Tigers!!!
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Good news on both fronts. Obviously we all want Capehart and Tate healthy and playing Saturday. Glad to know we are making some adjustments in recruiting and at least one big donor is ready to participate. Hate we had to lose 6 commits but hopefully this will stop the bleeding and we don’t lose any more from this class. Thanks for the info David!
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Ring of Honor [22131]
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Big news!
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Nov 25, 2024, 7:31 PM
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I think that's the news we have all been waiting to hear. I can't wait to see these changes in action.
Go Tigers!
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Sounds good to me. We will see.
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Re: Catching up on injuries and NIL
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Thanks David! Look forward to see the changes which are made. It’s a shame we waited until we essentially lost a class to react.
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Game Changer [1806]
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Thanks for the info. As for the NIL, the proverbial barn door is open and
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the horses are gone for this year. Dabo has always said he will use the portal when we are not signing the best of the best. It certainly looks like we are not signing the best this year from HS, so I am sure the portal will be used.
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Orange Phenom [14717]
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Two thumbs up David!
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