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TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemson’s trajectory is headed down. Period."
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Sadly, this isn't really debatable.***
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^^first to chime in^^
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Sep 13, 2023, 10:14 AM
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who's as shocked as me?
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She loves these lazy media takes. It makes her feel better about her crush loser.***
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Re: She loves these lazy media takes. It makes her feel better about her crush loser.***
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It’s like clock work. If Dabo’s name was Brad he would be doing a great job.
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Freshman [-74]
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Exactly. Brad has the most wins in Clemson history
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Sep 13, 2023, 11:14 AM
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Meanwhile he also has the most losses and his winning percentage is crap.
She’s a weasel and she knows it. I thought Krump banned his scok?
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Re: Sadly, this isn't really debatable.***
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The only thing that’s not debatable, is Brad Brownell has worn out his welcome at Clemson. Needs to retire or go coach at Bob Jones University.
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This is the downside of taking a program to
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Sep 13, 2023, 11:15 AM
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the top. There's only way to go and that's down. Strangely, sometimes from a criticism and expectations standpoint you're better at being consistently mediocre at your job. If people have never really seen you succeed it doesn't stand out when you have another so-so season.
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Re: This is the downside of taking a program to
Sep 13, 2023, 6:42 PM
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That *is* logical. Nonetheless, Klatt isn’t really paying attention and his opinion — though it could prove true — is poorly informed and worthless.
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Re: Sadly, this isn't really debatable.***
Sep 13, 2023, 12:19 PM
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I know your avatar is a response to one someone had we for coach Brownlee, but it friggin' infuriates me (for some reason) and I can't give any credence to anything you poast as soon as I see it.
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Rival Killer [2618]
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Dude, do not give her the satisfaction. Cmon. She has half of tigernet blocked.
Sep 13, 2023, 2:20 PM
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Btw, being able to block users is the most immature feature on a website I’ve ever heard of. Should be called “tigernet high school”.
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Re: Sadly, this isn't really debatable.***
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You wish Men's basketball was trending upward...
#WeLosttoMoreheadState...
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Rival Killer [2618]
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You literally sit at your moms house and wait for these articles to post
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Sep 13, 2023, 2:16 PM
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Sad individual.
Klatt, you mean our embarrassing loss at Duke wasn’t as good as losing to top 5 Texas? Dang, shocker.
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Re: Sadly, this isn't really debatable.***
Sep 13, 2023, 6:38 PM
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I was talking to Leonard on Sunday, and I don’t you’re the real Judge Keller.
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Re: Sadly, this isn't really debatable.***
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sure it is...not in your doomsday mind but there is plenty of football to be played.
NIL and Portal both are ruining college football... because in most cases it works in that order... how much money to come to your school... It's a business transaction...
So if the argument is Clemson does not pay to play and that is the only way to win anymore, than your right it's not debatable...
I prefer Dabo's approach to the players and the atmosphere...
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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After watching this team for 2 games I compare it Crawl, walk sprint. We have to remember that this is a new coordinator that is his second game and he is 7 in total offense. I just believe the players are not as confident in the plays as they speak about, but this team will be a force to be reckon with sooner rather than later. I believe if this next game shows the continuing improvement on the second half of the last game we will beat the Noles the next week.
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Beat the Noles?
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Sep 13, 2023, 10:32 AM
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I watched FSU vs. LSU.
I watched Clemson vs. Duke.
If that FSU and Clemson team show up to play each other, it will be a Jameis type beatdown in the Valley.
FSU is full of dogs with passion and intensity. Our team is full of country club members who go through the motions. Where is this teams Skalski or Boulware? I saw more intensity out of the freshman last weekend than I did any starters. The only one who comes close is Shipley. He needs to be the leader and hold his teammates accountable. Let loose young man and expect more from your fellow players and coaches.
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Loved Skalski and Boulware, but their lack of speed
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created mismatches in the passing game and against a mobile QB. It would be even more pronounced with today's offenses.
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Re: Loved Skalski and Boulware, but their lack of speed
Sep 13, 2023, 6:50 PM
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created mismatches in the passing game and against a mobile QB. It would be even more pronounced with today's offenses.
It’s funny that Spencer Shuey was even slower, yet he really is the guy (along with Reader) who helped make the Venables turnaround happen.
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Re: Beat the Noles?
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Woodaz shows a lot of intensity
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Agree on Woodaz. How about the hit by Lukus?***
Sep 13, 2023, 5:37 PM
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We havent played FSU yet.
Sep 13, 2023, 11:02 AM
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I assume you don’t need your tickets to the country club event?
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Re: Beat the Noles?
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My point is:
I do not think we will see the same teams and our D is much better than LSU if not having to defend a short field. Duke had one long drive against our D.
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Re: Beat the Noles?
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Yeah if THAT Clemson team showed up but there will be 2 games between that Clemson team & the one playing FSU. Also, am I crazy or did 2 or 3 fluke fumbles hand the game to Duke??? I don’t understand this narrative of how bad Clemson is. Clemson is very good, just need to polish up some mistakes.
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Were very good, we just havent played like it yet?
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Sep 13, 2023, 6:08 PM
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LOL.
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Re: Were very good, we just havent played like it yet?
Sep 13, 2023, 9:40 PM
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I’m genuinely confused by this. Our defense is stout, if it weren’t for the offense giving points away to Duke & CSU we would be sitting here talking about how good the D is. Goo actually look at how they have held up. Also outside of the fluke turnovers, where is Clemson truly lacking? I’m so confused by this lack of faith by fans like you. I really don’t understand how you’re a fan & acting like this after the second game.
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Re: Beat the Noles?
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Bkah blah blah. We don't know how good any team is right now because we're 2 games into the season. Take a deep breath. FSU is not as great as you think and neither is LSU. Wait about 5 games and you will see who has what.
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Re: Beat the Noles?
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I agree that the team needs so guys with an edge. Really miss leaders like Christian Wilkins.
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I think you mean
Sep 13, 2023, 2:22 PM
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Choir boys for us.
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Re: Beat the Noles?
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I wonder what you will think after the BC/FSU game, which unfortunately seems to be scheduled for the same time as ours. I have a feeling it may resemble our Duke game a little bit ( though the Noles won’t be losing by 21).
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Re: Beat the Noles?
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Sadly, that's how I see this FSU matchup playing out. It's not the "country club guys" but it is a lack of passion, energy, motor, and just plain "will to win" mentality we are missing, from the first team anyway. The second and third teams played with much more passion and energy last weekend and didn't give up a thing.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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I had to laugh when I read Coach Swinney's comment to wait until the end of the decade to see how things are. It is easy to have patience when you are being paid an obscene amount of money to be head coach. I cannot imagine Clemson fans being that passive if the downward slide continues.
The more the talking heads describe Clemson as on the way down, the more likely it will be that we end up there. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy, because when you are ignoring the portal and loving whatever group you have (as Coach just said and has said many times before), the most sought after recruits will not want to buy a ticket on Clemson's Titanic.
The outcome this season will tell the tale.
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Yeah, finishing 13th and 14th the last two seasons is grounds for firing Dabo.
Sep 13, 2023, 11:04 AM
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You’re a “new” fan, huh?
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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Well rumor has it the players love the loyalty of Dabo Swinney so not sure if this has much truth to it.
Who do you recommend Dabo sends packing?
Sometimes you just miss on some recruits and that in a nutshell is where we are. I’m sure Dabo would not hire coordinators that he would feel would tank his career, but between coaching hires, the portal and his Christianity some seem to have all the reasons figured out.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 1:27 PM
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“ The more the talking heads describe Clemson as on the way down, the more likely it will be that we end up there. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy”
Umm…the term “##########” when Dabo took over. He provides conclusive evidence that what talking heads are saying has no influence, none, over the fate of a football program. Try again coot.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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I had to laugh when I read Coach Swinney's comment to wait until the end of the decade to see how things are. It is easy to have patience when you are being paid an obscene amount of money to be head coach. I cannot imagine Clemson fans being that passive if the downward slide continues.
The more the talking heads describe Clemson as on the way down, the more likely it will be that we end up there. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy, because when you are ignoring the portal and loving whatever group you have (as Coach just said and has said many times before), the most sought after recruits will not want to buy a ticket on Clemson's Titanic.
The outcome this season will tell the tale.
Ridiculous
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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Clemson fans were awfully passive during the Biden years. He should have been out after 2002. I left this site for a long time because of the blindness of the sunshine pumpers. There’s a big difference between Dabo and a guy who lost at least three conference games every year but one.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 8:23 PM
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I definitely turned into a dumper during the Bowden era.
I was also very happy to eat a ton of crow over the Dabo hire as I thought the program needed a successful proven coach.
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Bama's QB is their leading rusher with a whopping 92 yards.
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Their longest run from scrimmage is a 25 yard run by their QB. Their offensive line is a mere shell of its former self. Their QB is extremely inaccurate completing only 60% of his passes. He completed a mere 14 passes against Texas. Their defense was letting receivers run free. They got worn down with a lack of depth in the 4th quarter. Not sure how he concluded that Texas was elite after 2 games.
What position group is Alabama better at than Clemson? None.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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This is why I was happy that cable removed ESPN. How do y’all listen to this shat all day long? Him, Finebum or that clown on Gameday with the open shirt.
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Klatt flaps his gums just so he can feel the breeze. You
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can't even use the excuse that he is an ESPN SEC shill, since he has pretty much always worked for Fox Sports. And, his take that Clemson is "on a downward trajectory" is certainly different than what he said just prior to the season, excerpt from his preseason Top 25 story:
"Klatt added that he’s “in on Clemson” this year.
They should be better on defense, Klatt said. They won the ACC a year ago. They’ve got their best games or toughest games at home, a place that they rarely if ever lose over the course of the last five and six years. I’m in. Like, I’m in on Clemson.”
Evidently not.
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Re: Klatt flaps his gums just so he can feel the breeze. You
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I’d bet a lot of money that if Clemson rolls out & beats FSU this clown will release a video praising Dabo & how he’s righted the ship. All these videos are knee jerk reactions just for views
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Clemson Conqueror [11165]
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cue the pumper spin machine on how Clemson has acutally.....
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been on an UPWARD trajectory the last 3-4 years.
either that or they'll just take offense to it b/c how dare they question Dabo almighty and call it trash reporting and wonder how some of these "media heads" have a job promoting false propoganda.
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LOL
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*chickenshyatt***
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Clemson Conqueror [11165]
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tell us the story about your pulse Stanley.....
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I love that story........something about a meanie that took your toys........go ahead, you tell it better.....
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I disagree with Klatt's assessment. Yes we hit a bump in the road and have not had a top 5 recruiting class lately but all this means is we may not be ACC champs and in the playoffs "this year". Media folks can count Clemson out if they want to. It only gives incentive. I believe it was Mark Twain, after he had been reported diseased in the papers, said something like this in a speech: " The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated".
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Re: Your disgruntled fan act is tired and stale.
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Oscar Wilde but I like your point!
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Re: Your disgruntled fan act is tired and stale.
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I disagree with “top 5 recruiting class” statement. The talent in the field — judged by recruiting ratings — is FAR better than what we had in 2016.
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We played in the national championship game 4 years ago.. #2 in the country.
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We made the playoffs 3 years ago and finished 4th.
Then the DJ era we dropped to 13 and 14.
We have the 4th most P5 wins in the last 3 seasons and 5th the two years of DJ.
Dabo Swinney is still statistically the 2nd best coach in America during his tenure.
You’re a fraud. Obviously.
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We played in the national championship game 4 years ago.. #2 in the country.
Sep 13, 2023, 11:11 AM
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We made the playoffs 3 years ago and finished 4th.
Then the DJ era we dropped to 13 and 14.
We have the 4th most P5 wins in the last 3 seasons and 5th the two years of DJ.
Dabo Swinney is still statistically the 2nd best coach in America during his tenure.
You’re a fraud. Obviously.
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Re: cue the pumper spin machine on how Clemson has acutally.....
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We have only played 2 seasons without making the playoffs. If we beat FSU next Saturday it would be our highest ranked win in nearly 3 years and only our 3rd top 5 win since last beating Alabama for a national title. I don’t suppose you’ll correct your trajectory arguments if that happens will you?
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He has embedded himself so firmly into his narrative that I
Sep 13, 2023, 2:14 PM
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doubt any new information can get through.
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Clemson Conqueror [11165]
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win out and go to the playoffs and our trajectory.....
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would have changed, but that doesn't change the FACT that we have been on a slow decline since our PEAK of 2018.
2019 - blown out in national title
2020 - blown out in the semis
2021 - 3 losses, cheez it bowl winners
2022 - 3 losses, ACC Champs, blown out in Orange bowl by a team missing their 3 biggest offensive playmakers
2023 - blown out by Duke in game 1
from 2019 - present our trajectory has been a downward one...........win out, go to playoffs and we tilt that line back up............time will tell.
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Re: win out and go to the playoffs and our trajectory.....
Sep 13, 2023, 4:21 PM
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Yes, but that’s a pretty narrow data set. If you’re looking from 2016-18 (1st,3rd,1st) and going by final ranking then of course it’s downward. You can’t trend up from first. You’re fighting gravity at that point. But if you take a decades view we ‘re two seasons in with an average rank of 14. We averaged 17th from 2011-2012. (I’m pulling mcubed numbers). We we won 21 games in both instances. College football is normally cyclical. On paper Alabama should always win - even now in era of Kirby Smart. But experience is never weighted in the Rivals/ESPN/247 rankings. Covid has thrown the normal 4-5 year cycle into disarray. We have 7th and 8th year players now. It’s still 2 more full seasons away from working itself out. Our run as a top 4 team for 6 full seasons is a minor miracle - not some standard than should be expected in perpetuity. In any window greater that pulls back further than Dabo’s tenure - this program continues to sit at a previously unimaginable plateau. We have an active 12 season streak of 10 win seasons. We have fans dismissing that like it’s nothing. It’s the 3rd longest in college football history. Only Alabama and Clemson even have active 10 win seasons streaks of 3 years. Only Ohio State and Georgia can even make a claim about the covid year. Our home win streak that was broken last year is the 9th longest all time. These are no small or meaningless stats. They demonstrate the extreme elevation of this program. If you plot Clemson wins in the Dabo Swinney era against those of the other 132 FBS football teams you are not going to see a team that is trending downward. Your going to see Clemson occupying rarified air with Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia while others come and go.
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Ultimate Tiger [38955]
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Joel Rectal Clap is a Coot Troll***
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Sep 13, 2023, 10:43 AM
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National Champion [7561]
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Bama is headed down too.. maybe not this or next year but
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Sep 13, 2023, 10:52 AM
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Bama will be in that second tier b/c of the NIL marketing and push being harnessed by the big market teams. Its just economics at this point. IF you're in a larger market with a huge alumni base you're sitting pretty right now and just biding your time. The miami's, Ohio States, USC's, TExas's are all on the way back to mainstay prominence. And will nab alot of the elite players that Clemson and Bama used to get by hard work and recruiting well.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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Sep 13, 2023, 11:25 AM
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There is enough bulletin board material written about this Clemson team and Clemson program to motivate this group for a long time.
Hopefully our Tigers play a clean game against FAU and take another step forward. Then, let's hope this team can rise up and beat FSU and turn college football on its head.
Beat FSU and the season is back on track with all the remaining goals still in play.
Beat FSU and these morons in the media will honestly have nothing to say and many of them will look stupid.
Not going to be easy as FSU is going to roll into Death Valley confident. However, play a clean game, force them into some mistakes, and go win it.
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What is Klatt's record with identifying to be NFL stars
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Sep 13, 2023, 11:31 AM
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I feel like he was a huge Trubisky and Zach Wilson type of guy
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Orange Blooded [2340]
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Dabo needs to have a sit down
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Sep 13, 2023, 11:38 AM
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With the AD. I mean he isn't on the verge of being fired but he needs to understand his old way of doing it is not working in the current era and he is going to have to start to embrace it. And maybe start hiring people who are actually worth their pay and not just people who caught a touchdown back in 98 and they make some boomer fans happy
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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Sep 13, 2023, 11:47 AM
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Beat FSU and prove them wrong.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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Sep 13, 2023, 11:49 AM
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where is he wrong?
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 12:30 PM
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Klickity Klatt Don't know crap.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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Sep 13, 2023, 12:33 PM
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Absolutely factual and only Dabo doesn't agree with this
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 7:35 PM
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Statements about future are never factual. They are opinions that may be proven right or wrong. Be serious.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 12:35 PM
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Thank you Captain Obvious🙄
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Best talking is on the field and the scoreboard at the end
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Sep 13, 2023, 12:51 PM
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Of the game Dabo. Let’s blow up the score board.
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Re: Klatt. "Klatt is a clown. Period."
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Sep 13, 2023, 2:12 PM
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Klatt has almost no insight in his comments. Klatt ignores the fact that the game could have been won comfortably absent the turnovers. Credit to Duke as they are actually a good team, which Klatt also ignores. The first game is normally the most mistake filled. Clemson proved that. Texas was never an elite team even through last year. Well coached teams get better as the season progresses. We will see.
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Re: Klatt. "Klatt is a clown. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 3:13 PM
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Clemson isn’t a well coached team
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Re: Hes still mad about his victory show 2019 vs Alabama
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Sep 13, 2023, 2:25 PM
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The second half program is even better as 44-16 he’ll never forget!
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ALL IN GO DABO - GO TIGERS***
Sep 13, 2023, 2:39 PM
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Klatt = ASSSHAT***
Sep 13, 2023, 3:33 PM
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LOL...elite Texas team...lol
Sep 13, 2023, 4:35 PM
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The last time Texas was relevant, most of the kids currently playing for them were still in diapers.
Just two short seasons ago, Texas finished 5-7. Elite indeed !!!!
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life Joel.
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I defended Klatt yesterday as to him usually not having stoopid hot takes
Sep 13, 2023, 4:46 PM
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So this boarders close to being a stoopid hot take. However, his stated reasoning was that “Clemson lost and looked like crap against Duke” and Alabama lost and didn’t look like total crap against a Texas team that is approaching elite status.
So for a national pundit - that reasoning is better than most.
######, I ended up defending him again.
Maybe I’m in love.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
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Sep 13, 2023, 4:58 PM
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I used to like his analysis but no more.
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IMHO Klatt and Swinney are both right
Sep 13, 2023, 5:43 PM
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And both doing their jobs. Swinney's job is to pump up Clemson, and its players, its boosters, and its administration. Klatt's job is to pump up B1G and SEC football and to be a media provocateur. The FSU game will be an event. Will Clemson show up with its top players in the starting rotation? Will it be good enough to win?
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 5:55 PM
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I am not even going to view the article. Our trajectory is headed down. Welcome to the new mo salary cap NFL. He who can spend most can win most. We can't spend NIL at the rate UGA, Michigan, Bucknut U, and Bama spend it.
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 7:49 PM
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the answer will be on the field not in the media... we focus on this week then focus on next week ...
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 8:10 PM
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Tacklin' Fuel!
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Re: TNET: FOX's Klatt: "Clemsons trajectory is headed down. Period."
Sep 13, 2023, 8:51 PM
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Did anyone watch the first half of the Charleston Southern game? This is a 6A or 7A high school team with a paltry 63 scholarships. A Clemson team from 5 years ago would have dropped 50 points on the Bucs the first half and then coasted. Instead we got to watch CSU D lineman penetrate the Clemson O line for multiple sacks and pressures. Mind boggling that nobody mentions this when trying to talk trajectory. This is a team with more issues than previous years and as usual does have a handful of next level players. If posters can't see the trajectory then they need to take binoculars to the games or watch some replays and do an honest assessment of what is transpiring IMO.
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