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TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 4:39 PM
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The ole Poptart bowl...yay what a season!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 4:40 PM
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Fun is in the winning
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 6:54 PM
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Seems to me like the fun is in the whining
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Dec 1, 2024, 10:47 AM
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I couldn't listen to more than a couple of minutes of Dabo's presser, apparently, he saw a much different game than a lot of us did. The most glaring stat that sticks out to me is the 267 rushing yards on the ground with a 6.4 yard average when just a couple of seasons ago that would have been completely unheard of by Clemson defense.
Coot QB Sellers by himself runs for 163 when very few RB's has a day like that especially when it's against two power 5 teams. But just last week against the Citadel gained 288 yards on the ground. Everybody has an opinion of their own, my opinion is that we have a serious problem with our defense allowing that many yards rushing two weeks back to back...
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:47 PM
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The only blame for this loss is only on Wes Goodwin, the offense and Cade done enough to win the game, the D didn't do its job to prevent the loss, and that's all that needs to be said, and if Dabo tries to put it on anything else (and I've never said anything like this before) maybe he should be given a long look as the HC. Every single person that saw any of this game saw that this D could not stop one player, the coot QB and he was totally surrounded several times and he simply got away out running and dodging our D players like it was a personal game for him!!! If Dabo puts this loss on anything other than the truth, he should be put on he hot seat at least. Nobody would hate losing him any worse than I would, but he must face the truth, and the offense scored enough points to win the game if the D would done their job and T-Netters that is the truth, and our HC must face it!!!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 6:19 PM
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I disagree. The offense only put up 14 points. That doesn't win many football games these days. Defense let up 2 tds on two broken plays. Yes that needs to be addressed but the offense didn't score
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Nov 30, 2024, 6:25 PM
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I agree. The offense couldn't even get a first down (twice) to help the defense at the end. 14 points isn't enough to win many games.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 6:40 PM
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Agree this isn’t the 1988 10-3 no state game offense need more that 15
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I was excited to see the defensive strategy to force Sellers to make plays....
Dec 1, 2024, 9:11 AM
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.... by aggressively applying pressure.... But Wes' calls for rushing 3 and dropping 8 on 3rd and long played right into Sellers' strength (open-field running) and the Tigers' weakness.... lack of speed on D and poor open-field tackling....
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Our local media and reporters are soft as the team ***
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Nov 30, 2024, 4:48 PM
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TBF, they would probably just lose their access if they weren't***
Dec 1, 2024, 1:29 AM
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 4:50 PM
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South Carolina was by far the 2nd best team we played all year and the game was always going to be close. The only real issue I have is the last pass to Mafah when I thought we should have gone to the endzone twice. If we were not going to the endzone, just let Cade run, call time our and try to tie. Is that on Cade or Riley? Flip a coin, but you can't throw an Int.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:01 PM
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Personally….im done with this team for this year. Hope Miami beats the living #### out of Syracuse because we surely don’t deserve a spot in the ACC Championship game.
Tired of a vanilla, static, conservative and predictable Offense and a Defense that can’t get out of its own way and looks like a bunch of stumbling bumbling idiots trying to make arm tackles.
But…..as the Coots always say ….”there’s always next year”….😩 🖕🏼
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 6:10 PM
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You have a crappy attitude.
I want to play in ACC Championship game, thus I want Syracuse to beat Miami.
I want to win ACC Championship game too.
I'm not through with this team!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 7:23 PM
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You have a crappy attitude.
I want to play in ACC Championship game, thus I want Syracuse to beat Miami.
I want to win ACC Championship game too.
I'm not through with this team!
Poof! Your wish is granted.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Dec 1, 2024, 7:50 AM
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So I guess now you are not going to support the Team when we play SMU? Or will you just right back on board and pretend you never really meant that. A true fan is a fan an supports the team win or loose. We don’t need fans like you. IMO
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 4:56 PM
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Let's start with the obvious; The Blame for this one points to one man and one man only and and no amount of excuses ,or cliches will correct the problems that befall Clemson.
We are too soft!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 4:58 PM
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That one man is Dabo.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 5:04 PM
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That man has won 2 NATIONAL CHAMPIOSHIPS in the CFP era against Alabama and against probably the best Coach in College Football history. Dabo is a problem solver but he has to adjust to the new era of NIL, transfer portals and recruiting.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:16 PM
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You can't spend what u don't have. Our NIL collectives weren't supported enough by our fan base to buy the impact players in the portal or on the recruiting trail. Rev share will allow us to compete with anyone & honestly if 9 wins is our worst season we should probably be grateful. We aren't that far off but the last few years have been disappointing after a dominate run that should have had atleast 3 nattys. Go Tigers!!!!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:48 PM
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I don’t argue against that, but one reason it’s not funded better is because Dabo hasn’t made it a messaging priority. We almost act like it doesn’t matter.
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Thank you David
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:01 PM
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I appreciate your write ups so much because your posts are always spot on. Clemson football is in trouble. I am curious to see what happens over the next week.
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Re: Thank you David
Dec 1, 2024, 7:52 AM
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We will go play for the ACC championship. Next week we will prepare for SMU.
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Re: Thank you David
Dec 1, 2024, 6:29 PM
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I don’t think the man knows what he’s talking about! He’s just a coot in orange!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 5:02 PM
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We played inspired football. After the botched reverse Riley was too predictable and Cade missed a few easy throws. Playing man on 3rd & 16 was an awful decision by Wes and we were in great position to get a stop. Not sure if we make the fg but I sure wish Cade threw that ball away. Tough loss. Go Tigers!!!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:12 PM
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This garbage story does nothing, You and the other media are still afraid of DABO, and Tyler from spartanburg is by far the only person with a pair of nuts to say something to DABO. Then that coward removes his call in show. Just like the game plan, a Cowards way of coaching a game.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 5:23 PM
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Let's call it what it is. We laid an egg against the ville and got beat by the chickens. If you don't play for ACC championship, no sense to play the bowl game. Coaches don't deserve the right for the 10 win money.
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:23 PM
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Let's call it what it is. We laid an egg against the ville and got beat by the chickens. If you don't play for ACC championship, no sense to play the bowl game. Coaches don't deserve the right for the 10 win money.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:31 PM
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I’m actually feeling sick to stomach. Enough Dabo! Enough of this! Do you’re job!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:31 PM
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I’m actually feeling sick to stomach. Enough Dabo! Enough of this! Do you’re job!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:31 PM
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So sick I threw it up twice lol
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I think they need to practice tackling in the off season and ...
Nov 30, 2024, 5:39 PM
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that Chickens QB is awesome ! NFL written all over him.
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Re: I think they need to practice tackling in the off season and ...
Nov 30, 2024, 6:07 PM
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If he learns how to pass. Be real how may running scrambling quarterbacks do you see in the NFl. Get REAL.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Nov 30, 2024, 5:58 PM
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If I were Dabo, I’d turn down the Pop Tart bowl and Holiday bowl
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 6:09 PM
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I agree!
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 7:10 PM
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Unlike the Tommy Bowden immitators of the past three seasons, this team actually looked on the verge of greatness at times this year. And then we lose badly to Louisville AFTER A BYE TO HEAL UP AND WATCH MORE FILM. WHAT? Then we let The Citadel run the ball down our throats, but we still won. And against the chickens we do not score again after Cade’s TD run with 10 minutes left in the third quarter. How many times this year has our offense just shut down in possession after possession? Our defense did a good job today until they could not stop S.C. on third and long when we KNEW who was going to run the ball. Sellers made us look like fools. And my guess is we did not even try to recruit this kid, who led Florence to a state championship and put up incredible numbers all year. But hey, Miami lost, so we still get to play for the ACC title. Talk about backing into a championship game! But we’ll take it. Still hurts to lose a game we shoulda won today in Death Valley, especially against the chickens.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 7:34 PM
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Coaching…time management
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Nov 30, 2024, 7:37 PM
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The blame starts and finishes w dabo…he’s our head coach!
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Nov 30, 2024, 7:40 PM
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Ya ba daba doer … portal players beat us again ….
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
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Dec 1, 2024, 12:58 AM
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It seems to me that when we go conservative, seeking not to lose rather than to win, we give up the momentum and fall short. We have played far better defense in a 4-3-4 than a 4-2-5 all year, and we gave them the game by letting them run on us to protect against the long ball. We will play a similar team in SMU, and we cannot make those mistakes again.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Dec 1, 2024, 9:56 AM
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Totally disagree with this post. We did not go conservative for one. Sellars can’t throw the ball so we were not giving up the run to protect against the long ball. Yes we had a hard time with tacking Sellers and should have done a better job there, but it’s not like they scored a lot on us, remember they only had 17. Finally SMU can throw the ball and they are nothing like Carolina. Cade made a crucial mistake by throwing that football there at he end. It was a pass that should have never been thrown and it killed us.
We have another chance here now to win the ACC championship. I for one am a true Tiger Fan and I will always believe we will win. This is no different we will beat SMU.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Dec 1, 2024, 12:04 PM
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The offensive line is banged up, so there is more of an understanding as to why the offense is having some struggles. The defense on the other hand has simply been getting worse and worse against the rin game. Overall, the defense has been on a decline sense we lost V. We had a lot of talent there that could cover up some of the issues, but without some of that top talent it is showing more cracks. It could be time to start thinking about a new Coordinator to help this get turned around.
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Re: TNET: Quick Thoughts: Plenty of blame to go around as Tigers fall short
Dec 1, 2024, 9:00 PM
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This is spot on. You can spread the blame like mayo on a tomato sandwich. I have no words to express how ugly tackling is. And its not just a one game anomaly. Its week in week out. Play calling is equally baffling. Keeping Brown out the most important quarter??? Keeping Maffa in??? Giving Cade the option to check off on the game ending play. QB play is just as confusing. Great, bad, great, bad. Its Dr Jekyll Mr Hide on steroids. Offense against good teams can't score on a free hooker. In my opinion, its the offensive woes, several years of it, that ruined this game. Everyone want's Wes gone, and I don't entirely disagree, but good gosh almighty!! If this unit can't score at least get some first downs. Give your D a rest for gods sake. I will say, for my eye's, the o line is the most improved group on this team. Credit that and Matt Luke for the offense having more success this year. At least against inferior opponents. Its not blocking that's causing most three and outs. Those seem to be on #2 or PC.
Either Dabo is too involved in the PC or Riley "ain't" it. If I were the HC, I'd show Riley the door, promote Luke to that job and keep my nose out of his business. But something tells me at least the latter won't happen.
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