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TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:07 PM
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:23 PM
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Or we could use ETN in a way that maximizes his skill set. Why arent we running the end around that has killed so many people? What arent we getting #9 to the edge and using his skill set to juke people out of their shoes? I just feel there are some plays that we arent calling that have been successful in the past. Anything's better than that stupid screen on 1st and 10 that leaves us in a 2nd and 12 situation. Just sayin...
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 7:56 PM
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I agree on the screens and ETN. Stop all the bubble screens to the side line and get ETN on the edge and see what happens. If Elliot figured out Elko was plugging the middle, why did ETN only get one run to the outside? Doesn't make sense. Also after 2 TDs from the tightest ends against Furman, they were non existant against A&M and it's not the first game the TE is not utilized. That will keep the safeties and LBs honest or we'll be getting 8 to 10+ yard gains. Hmmm, won't that help open up the middle. Just saying .....
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 7:59 PM
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Tight Ends (I hate this phone)
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 11, 2018, 7:57 AM
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I actually liked the "tightest ends" we have 2 truly talented tight ends and by seasons end they really could be the tightest ends in the ACC.
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:25 PM
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2 Simple fixes imho.
1) call more vertical passes
2) play TL16
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Agree. They dare us to play TL16. So, let's do it!!!***
Sep 10, 2018, 11:21 PM
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 11, 2018, 10:55 AM
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Elliot says we need more screens to the perimeter? Really? That seems to be the main "go-to" strategy we try, and it really isn't all that effective. If he really wants to open up some "run game", we had better figure out how to get the ball to some deep receivers and maybe even some to crossing patterns over the middle. They certainly utilized it very effectively against us, and it resulted in sustained drives over and over on Saturday night. KB made a good throw downfield on one occasion, but we didn't follow it up with more, and it seems that Elliot didn't like to call those type routes when TL was in there after he completed the TD pass on his 2nd play. Talk about under-utilizing our strengths (excellent RB's, QB with a canon for an arm, WR's who are like frisbee catching dogs), and our go to play with KB is the bubble screen on the perimeter? Wow!
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:30 PM
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I feel like we have all these top talented wrs and tight ends and on top of that 5* QBs (TL) that we shouldn't have any issue getting the ball down field. Now I understand pass protection is a whole other issue along with the o line, but looking at our depth at the skilled positions we just ain't doing it right. Bubble screens and passes at the feet of wide open receivers 3 yards behind scrimmage is getting old.
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:51 PM
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Thank you! I've hated the screen passes that come out quick horizontal with the line of scrimmage. Little dump passes 2 yards from the line with defenders swarming the ball. I understand the point of getting the ball out quick but those plays h
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:33 PM
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Fix is to throw to the TE.
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:38 PM
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iElliott said" he expects teams to continue to play a similar style of defense, at least until the Tigers establish a downfield passing game."
You have a downfield passing game. You also have a stable of running backs. Put the right people for your offense on the field and stop looking so vanilla and predictable!
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:48 PM
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Bingo! Elliot nailed it. Teams will continue to play us the same. Wow brilliant. How about since they are 7 guys within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage we try a 12 to 15 yd pass. A down field threat dosent have to be a 50 yd 50/50 ball. But you do have to a polished accurate passer or those passes get picked. The shallow cross at about 10 yds to Rogers was probably our best looking play Saturday night. And give the #### ball to the rb's. It's a zone read Bryant keeps it 90% of the time!
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:54 PM
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Agreed! And it looks like everyone hates the little dump passes that get thrown horizontal with the line of scrimmage. 3rd and 6 and they throw the ball backwards. I've hated this style of 2&4 yards passes
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 6:54 PM
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Our O line is a disappointment. We don’t open holes especially against Good teams. We also don’t pass protect that well. It limits us in many ways
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Rival Killer [2786]
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We have a very mobile QB
Sep 10, 2018, 7:59 PM
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And another that’s mobile enough. That buys time to allow mid range passing game.
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Orange Phenom [14190]
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Deer Tony - I would never pretend to know as much as you
Sep 10, 2018, 7:10 PM
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about calling offensive plays...but it seems to me if you are in a 3rd and five/six you should throw the ball beyond the line of gain instead of sticking to our "perimeter game" pass that is two yards behind the line of scrimmage. I think our odds of converting a first down would increase dramatically...
Seriously - we have to start throwing forward of the line of scrimmage instead of 20 yards horizontally to a receiver two yards behind the line of scrimmage. By the way, have we ever considered a "pump and go" off one of these "perimeter game" screens? Every team we play is keying on that perimeter pass and is in our receivers grill just as he is getting the ball. For once I'd like to see us pump and go on that and have one of our speed demon receivers run right by the defender biting on the pump...
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Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 10, 2018, 7:11 PM
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And Jeff And Brandon can switch things up, react a little quicker? There just seems to be a problem offensively and with Dabo pushing Tony as the front man, he is the face of our bland, one dimensional game plan. Nothing personal but maybe change would be good for both Tony and Clemson. Just a thought.
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 10, 2018, 7:21 PM
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by my calculation, we're 53-4... let me say that again, 53-4, under the current offensive staff. just gonna leave that here.
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 10, 2018, 7:29 PM
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The majority with a man named Watson. That's my fear. He ain't coming back. Once he left our running game left as did the downfield passing game. Just look at the trend. We are getting by in what is the worst conference in football (this year) Just concerned as we watch. Offensively look at oklahoma. Downfield passing and a power run game. They don't out recruit us they are out scheming us.
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 10, 2018, 7:30 PM
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by my calculation, we're 53-4... let me say that again, 53-4, under the current offensive staff. just gonna leave that here.
That’s true. However that’s 57 games that coaches have had the opportunity to realize that we’re not gonna change the play calling. I’m just gonna leave this right here.
P.S. I’m just saying this in good fun. Don’t get too offended.
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 10, 2018, 7:34 PM
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53-4 is a 93% winning record. without watson, this staff is 15-2, or 88%. even if the other staff knows what's coming... that pretty #### skippy right there. enjoy the ride. it ain't always been this good.
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 10, 2018, 7:38 PM
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Oh yes I agree. I’m having a blast. I do think however we’ve become way to predictable. With the receivers we have we should NEVER have a team daring us to throw. Would you agree?
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 10, 2018, 7:42 PM
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every team has tendencies and is "somewhat" predictable. but when you're talented... and obviously we are... you play YOUR game. you do what you do well, what you've practiced, and what your game plan calls for. yes, there are times you have to adjust and "take what the D gives you". my point is, how can folks argue with the results of this staff?
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 10, 2018, 7:56 PM
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Let's just see how good T Law can run this Sat. Give him some confidence running and Katie bar the door for the oppositng teams ability to stop his golden arm.
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 11, 2018, 7:37 PM
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I think Syracuse is a loss with his hurt ankle either way. He shoul NOT have played a single down with that ankle.
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 11, 2018, 8:09 AM
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I get what youre saying but the play calling is VERY VERY vanilla and has been. You have a stable of the most talented pass catchers and running backs in CFB and anyone that watches Clemson on the regular can predict 80% of the plays, now if Clemson fans can what do you expect people who get paid to come up with game plans do with that prediction? I can tell you, its the same thing that Elko did.
Dont get me wrong i absolutely love Elliott and Scott but (to me) they are getting too complacent in their jobs. They need to make Clemson the team EVERYONE fears like we all know we can be.
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Re: Maybe Tony will find a HC position somewhere
Sep 11, 2018, 3:52 PM
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Excellent point, the record is great, and I've never gotten on players or coaches because of that record. I think we really need to pause and think about things going forward. Why would a 5* RB or Receiver keep choosing to come to Clemson, we have stopped using them practically. We are not keeping the "pedal to the medal" and we should be. We have to stop, becoming so complacent when we get a lead or it's going to bite us in the butt! Every close game we have had in my recent memory is from the same thing, we get the lead and then try and sit on it in the 4th quarter, why. Ask yourselves, coaches, HOW DID WE GET THIS LEAD? Well, "Just keep doing it". If we score with 3 mins in the half and pin them deep on the kickoff, call time out after each play, force them to kick it back to us, we can then add another score before the half, that is a total momentum killer. As Ray Kroc once said, "If your competitors (opponents) are drowning, put a hose in their mouths!" We need to somehow get a killer instinct, and quick before we play someone who we let hang around long enough that they Whip our Butts..
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IMHO Dabo's finger prints are all over Offense
Sep 11, 2018, 10:41 PM
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including vanilla conservatism, a fear to let KB throw in close games when Tigers are leading, and the botched trick plays. Dabo and TE were much sharper Offensive minds when DW4 was regularly calling audibles … but the glass remains spilling over. Let's hope we put the talent to work … including Tee, Amari, ETN, TL and some tight end passes.
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 7:48 PM
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Suprised this TNET poast isnt called a coot poast..
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 7:52 PM
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I for one am getting sick and tired of the lackluster Offense......it’s soooo vanilla the past 2 seasons. We have the frisbee catching dawgs and the stud running backs and all we can do is attempt bubble screens and jet sweeps for 0 gain......frustrating to watch.
Let’s open things up and play ball like we know we can....not just one pass attempt downfield each quarter......:man ####, give me a break!!!!!
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I wasn’t there, but it seems to me
Sep 10, 2018, 8:03 PM
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On our deep balls our WR draw a lot of attention. Seems we could drive them off and throw underneath. QB may have to buy a little time, but they’re mobile.
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 8:07 PM
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we appear rather JV at the moment on offense
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 8:14 PM
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Easy fix . Trevor Lawrence at QB. Better playcalling.
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the crappy play calling causes that as well
Sep 10, 2018, 8:26 PM
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11 men in the box on third down..of course elliot and scott call for a run right into the wall..they do it every time..jimbo knew it
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Quit your predictable prevent offense! GET CREATIVE!***
Sep 10, 2018, 8:27 PM
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 9:00 PM
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It was an honest point Tony made. He's asking for something to change to create a downfield threat. There's a lot behind his comments. Many of us having been saying this for awhile.
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So if teams are stacking the box and daring us to throw downfield...
Sep 10, 2018, 9:22 PM
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why in the heck do we continue running our QB up the middle? Why do we continue throwing screen passes to the sideline?
What we are doing CLEARLY isn’t working, so why aren’t we seeing a different strategy from our vaunted offensive coaches?!?
Our coaches’ stubbornness makes my head hurt. We have all world talent. Our coaches are really smart. They get paid well to figure these things out!
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 10, 2018, 9:48 PM
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Limit the bubble screens. Opponents know it is coming and practice to stop it.
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I’m sorry but I just don’t buy this. We are conceding
Sep 10, 2018, 9:54 PM
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parts of the field way too quickly. We have enough talent that we should be able to challenge other defenses. Hearing our OC essentially say that other teams can remove most of our capabilities by a certain strategy is not comforting. We need to be more aggressive. More imaginative. We are being outmaneuvered and rarely have the initiative. This “take what the defense gives you” is being taken to the extreme. We need to be dictating what’s happening on the field instead of quickly conceding such important limitations based on defensive ganeplans.
I really don’t like this.
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I’m sorry
Sep 10, 2018, 9:59 PM
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I only have one TU to give this.
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We are limited to what our QBs can do successfully.
Sep 10, 2018, 10:23 PM
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Neither is worth a chit at the option read which is 50+% of our game. TL doesn't have good enough command of the playbook to handle an entire game and KB's still has no confidence in his long throws, I agree, neither do I.
We can't get creative until we have a polished QB behind center. Imo, our coaches are doing one hail of a job getting us this far with so little. Never-the-less, I would have thrown TL's butt in the fire and let him learn while he earns. I think he could have beaten this team. They didn't rattle him once that I could tell.
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THEN ADJUST THE FREAKING OFFENSE!!
Sep 11, 2018, 1:18 PM
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I am so tired of the excuses. We are one of the top 5 college football programs over the past few years, and arguably the second best over that time. There is no excuse to run an offense that isn't a good fit for our personnel. Our assistant coaches are among the highest paid in college football, and they should be smart enough and innovative enough to construct a gameplan that fits our personnel.
If our QB isn't good at read option, then by all means, STOP calling read option plays!
And to follow up on that, if our QB isn't good at it, why not? He's a fifth year senior and the returning starter. If he hasn't been coached well enough the past few years, why not? And if he's the best QB we have, despite those limitations, why don't we have someone better?
I personally don't like the read option. I think it's stupid. I would much prefer more of a pro style offense. I think Deshaun made the option stuff look better than it actually is.
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This is immediately proven untrue by teams with
Sep 11, 2018, 3:39 PM
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inferior talent but more production on offense.
We are swallowing "explanations" wholesale without considering the alternative.
I do not have a reputation as an overly critical grump. I spend the vast majority of my efforts on here defending players, coaches and the program. I am not a dumper, complainer, second guesser. But on this particular issue, I think the coaches are missing something. We can absolutely be more aggressive with our current 2 deep. They may not want to, but we certainly could.
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Kirby Smart and Bama OC du jour
Sep 11, 2018, 10:48 PM
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sure have coached up Fromm and Tua … do Clemson coaches have the ability to coach up TL in 2018/19 championship run? Let's hope so ...
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Re: I’m sorry but I just don’t buy this. We are conceding
Sep 11, 2018, 9:41 AM
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I agree with your analysis 100%. With our fire power we should dictate the game and be the aggressor. I love my Tigers and I plan to be at the game Saturday but our offense is simply frustrating to watch and beyond predictable......
Go Tigers
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I do not think Elliott trusts KB to throw downfield
Sep 10, 2018, 9:54 PM
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Maybe he calls for the deep ball and KB does not take it, but the bottom line is that we do not take the same number of deep shots as we did with Deshaun.
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Re: I do not think KB trusts KB to throw downfield.
Sep 10, 2018, 10:24 PM
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Along with all the rest of us including the coaches.
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It's sad that a fifth year senior and returning starter
Sep 11, 2018, 1:19 PM
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at QB isn't trusted to do more, either because he hasn't been coached better or because the coaches have trust issues. Either way, it's stupid and it is greatly limiting our offensive production.
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But he does throw it downfield, and it works well often.
Sep 11, 2018, 3:45 PM
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Multiple long passes downfield in both games. No horrific throws that were obvious mistakes.
We absolutely could trust KB more with deep throws. And it's not just about deep throws. It's about not having the initiative. It's about never dictating the game. We CHOOSE to simply "take what the defense gives us." That's ok as a part of an overall strategy, but to make it the core of our offensive philosophy is the reason that our massively talented team is underperforming.
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Rival Killer [2786]
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I was excited to see Tony addressing this
Sep 10, 2018, 10:07 PM
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But after reading I feel he is just recommitting to these screens with deep shots mixed in. He said there are 7 in the box and safety is coming up taking away the middle. I’m watching replay of the game and there’s often 6 in the box and safety coming up to hit our screen receiver behind the LOS. Defenses are not giving us the perimeter. We are forcing it.
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Re: I was excited to see Tony addressing this
Sep 10, 2018, 10:28 PM
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Just feel like our offense is stagnant and slow. Reminds me a little of the season before Morris came here. We're not wearing teams down like in the past. Sometimes it is harder to stay on top than to get there.
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We seem to forget
Sep 10, 2018, 10:24 PM
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the wheel route--Etienne- and a TE release which is almost unstoppable. Yet we run 20+ yard routes and expect the QB to survive long enough to get it there. Time to shelve the bubble screen. We have blocked it properly in the past but not lately. It's just frustrating to watch so much talent struggle. We played not to lose. I think that's why KB misses so badly as he doesn't want to take a chance for an INT on the long ball.
Give credit where credit is due--A&M was a lot better than I expected and they were well coached. I think they will be trouble for a lot of people.
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Legend [6948]
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If Miller can block like they say has in practice, then he
Sep 10, 2018, 11:35 PM
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needs to play if we keep throwing bubble screens.
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Campus Hero [14073]
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One problem with the wheel route is that it takes time
Sep 11, 2018, 3:44 PM
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to develop and we don't always have that much time in the pocket.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [98677]
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New year, same old chit.***
Sep 10, 2018, 10:52 PM
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CU Guru [1898]
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We are # 2 in the nation for goodness sake - no excuses
Sep 10, 2018, 11:20 PM
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from our OCs. Figure it out quickly and start moving the danged ball!!
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Orange Blooded [2469]
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Everybody used to know what we were going to do and
Sep 11, 2018, 12:08 AM
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still couldn’t stop us. Now Alabama gave everybody the blue print of how to shut down our offense. And fast paced 3 & outs does not help any defense no matter how good they are. The running game starts with the O-Line. I think that has been our weak point since Bowden was here. I like Kelly but just looking at his body language he seems to get discouraged maybe a little faster than we’d like. Even when the other teams’ were in our backfield every snap, DW never got discouraged. It’s not fair to Kelly but being the next QB after DW, he will always be compared to DW
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Campus Hero [14073]
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It wasn't just Alabama. They shut us down but plenty
Sep 11, 2018, 3:57 PM
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of other teams made our offense look pedestrian last year.
Auburn - 14 points
BC - 7 pts through the first 3 quarters before we broke off some big plays
VT - 24 points (from the offense) and 330 yards including just 72 yards in the 2nd half
Wake - 28 pts and 14 of those were on the 1st two drives
Cuse - 24 points (i know there were other factors in that game)
GT - 24 points and only 3 points in the 2nd half
FSU - 17 points with ~5 minutes to go in the game before we scored twice on really short fields
We won a lot of games in spite of the offense last year by just playing great defense. There were two games we didn't play defense and we lost one of those (Cuse) and squeaked out the other (NC State). And then against Bama we played great defense and still got blown out.
Our offense doesn't need to be great but it does need to be better.
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Starter [371]
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Re: It wasn't just Alabama. They shut us down but plenty
Sep 11, 2018, 4:20 PM
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Don’t let CmoneyTiger read this. According to him our offense was AWESOME last year and the defense didn’t carry the team.
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Varsity [100]
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 11, 2018, 12:23 AM
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Not to be redundant, but I agree with most of the posts on this thread... it blows my mind that we have Higgins, renfrow, Rogers, Ross, Thompson, Powell, Overton and I’ll even throw in Galloway, but we have no downfield presence other than two big plays against A&M, one being a heck of a catch and play by Higgins. Not to mention Travis Etienne; heck, choice is solid and poor Feaster.. dude started all last year and only took one handoff against A&M I believe. Too much sauce out there to not be cooking.
I miss the days of Chad Morris offense when we had Sammy, Nuk at wideout and Ellington in the backfield. We found ways to get them all the ball! Morris is gone but I feel like we have enough talent to carry out the same prolific offensive output and scoring. We expected to move the ball those days. These last couple of years I’ve watch our games and I have to wonder/worry about do we have the right schemes or playcalling to get a first down! I feel like our first play in 1/3 of our series is some kind of bubble screen to start us 2nd & 11. That’s getting stale and old real quick. I’d rather put the receiver in motion for a possible jet sweep and make the defense guess whether we give the ball to wide out, running back, QB run or QB pass. We ran this a little bit last year and found success. We definitely need to be more aggressive, we are playing slow predictable football. It just feels like we are not playing any where near our potential or talent level on this squad. Part of this again may be due to using two QBs and each having their own style and ability. I hope they choose one and do it soon or I’m afraid we will continue to observe the same.
Lastly I want to know why there were so many busts against A&M? There were two touchdowns that were lucky to happen imo. But there were also a ton of A&M guys running down the field untouched. Our defense is supposed to be Top 3 in the country? What happened? Our offense rarely has someone running this wild and free and it this has not happened this season so this is not a norm for our team in recent history so maybe it was a bad day at the office but I hope this wakes their *** up!
Lastly, I’m a huge Dabo fan, I apply nearly all of his principles to what I do in my life. I wouldn’t trade him for anything! And as a lifelong Tiger fan, these last several years have been a blessing to watch because I remember the days when my dad and I were happy to go 8-4/ 7-5.... but we could use a little bit of Saban’s desire to get things right or find someone who will mentality. I’m just saying... grateful for our success but want to see us fulfill our potential just like all Clemson Tigers do!
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CU Guru [1149]
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Teams with good DCs don't respect Bryant's ability to
Sep 11, 2018, 9:51 AM
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beat them with his arm. It's the strategy Alabama used in the Sugar Bowl and we're going to keep seeing it. I know everyone loves KB and wishes him the best and all that, as do I, but if I'm an opposing DC looking for a weakness to attack Clemson on, I'm stopping the run first and daring us throw, too. Bryant is hit or miss badly and that's just how it is. There's a reason Lawrence is getting so much playing time.
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Gridiron Giant [16034]
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Didn’t ETN and Choice combine for over 6 ypc?***
Sep 11, 2018, 11:13 AM
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All-American [576]
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 11, 2018, 12:57 PM
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clemson's Oline leaves little to be desired. Caldwell missed on Cade Mays who replaced UGA's Thomas at LT after an ankle injury vs. USCe. We were actually were more productive with Mays on the field. Mays would have started for the Tigers this year w/o a doubt. He is a monster and would displace Hyatt to another position.
Why doesn't dabo's OC's run the ball with Trevor? W/o Bryant's ability to rush the football the Tiger offense is one dimensional with Lawrence in the game....no? TLaw doesn't fit the mold of Boyd, Watson or Bryant. The clemson offense is predicated on the ability of the QB to rush the football. The change in philosophy is obvious when Lawrence is taking snaps.
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Orange Elite [5304]
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 11, 2018, 1:03 PM
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I see you are still scared of knowing who the #1 guy is. How's that Fields kid working out for you in garbage time? His legs must have done some magic in that 3 yd run and single pass he completed after finally getting put in after a 24 point lead vs the chickens. Coaches not confident in him?? Is it bad he had as many throws in that game as WR Deebo Samuel? Asking for a friend.
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Rival Killer [2865]
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Re: TNET: Defenses daring Tigers to throw, causing lack of production on offense
Sep 11, 2018, 2:01 PM
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To even suggest that a true freshman can replace an All-American shows you may not know very much about football. There is no way Mays would take Hyatt's place at left tackle. He may start somewhere but it will not be a left tackle on this Clemson team. Mays played against a weak USuC team that has not depth. Do say your team was more productive when he came in is a far push seeing as USuC was worn out on defense by then.
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Odd that we call ourselves WRU, yet defenses dare us to...
Sep 11, 2018, 8:19 PM
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throw
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Tiger Titan [47608]
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We recruit great WRs, we just don't throw to them
Sep 11, 2018, 8:20 PM
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with any regularity.
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Paw Master [17150]
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I would be embarrassed to tell people that if I was getting
Sep 11, 2018, 8:37 PM
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paid as much as he is
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