Re: So in the way too early

Just the next revolution in the cycle

If you consider 2016, 2020, and 2024....Trump was able to position himself as the outsider every time, even when he was the incumbent in 2020. The Dem candidate has always been seen as the defender of the Establishment, the guy or woman who wanted to keep us or return us to some previous sense of normalcy and order.

That will not be the case in 2028. Trump and his hand-picked MAGA successor will absolutely be The Establishment by 2028. It will be the Dem who is the outsider, and unlike 2016, 2020, and 2024, I think the Dem will not be fighting to restore some previous order of things. It will be Trump's swamp that the Dems will be looking to drain.

And I hate to say this, but there is still a built-in extra hurdle in American society for a female POTUS candidate. Dems might try and push along a man next time, someone who isn't 75+, and someone who isn't part of an establishment mindset.

The dems are morons they just put the 3 worst candidates anyone has ever seen

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Nov 8, 2024, 4:53 PM

If you do a deep dive into the demographics of this election, it's very interesting.

I thought Harris might win because of the abortion issue. That turned out to be a big nothing burger and Harris spent a lot of time on that issue.

59% of voters are non absolutists on the issue of abortion. For those ok with abortion in most cases, the vote was even between Trump and Harris. That is very surprising to me. For those opposed to abortion in most cases, Trump won 92% of the vote.

38% of voters had absolutist views. 60% of all Harris voters feel abortion should be unrestricted. 11% of all Trump voters feel abortion should be illegal in all instances.

So for those somewhere in the middle, Trump owned this issue.

I read a quote from the Liberal Patriot that said, "The priorities that dominate the Democratic Party today are those of educated, liberal America which only partially overlaps and sometimes not at all with ordinary Americans."

The Republican Party is at this time very much the party of working class America and Trump made major inroads with those 18-29, voters under 30 including women, blacks, Hispanics, etc.

White women which comprised the largest voting bloc at 40% went 53% Trump to 46% Harris.

For those making >$100K/yr-Harris won by 8% points.

Bernie Sanders may have overstated things but he said, "It should come as no surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find the working class has abandoned them."

Neither party is your grandfather's party.

I suspect the Dems will field a more centrist candidate in 2028 such as Shapiro and the field may be ripe to beat Vance or any other Pub as I expect the Pubs will overreach. If the Dems go with Harris, which I very much doubt or Newsom, they will lose again.