Re: Oh it mattered A FKN LOT when people didnt want the first one.***

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All vaccines are natural. They wouldn't work of they weren't natural.

Nov 17, 2024, 8:52 AM

Very few people know how vaccines work. If they did they would understand the lies a little better. RFK is likely correct on a lot of his comments on vaccines. And public health has lied for a long time about vaccines.

Here's the facts. No vaccine has ever stopped a virus, with the exception of a smallpox. Mumps, measles, whooping cough, influenza, polio, TB, they're all still around. No vaccine prevents you from getting a virus 100%. Most vaccines, in reality, are between 60 and 80% effective on an individual basis. But depending on the virus, and the vaccine, if 98% of people get a vaccine that's only 60% or 65% effective against the virus, on a population level, the virus becomes rare. This is why they mandate vaccines be taken. Almost all are not perfect. But if 99% of people get a vaccine that's 60-70% effective, most viruses will cease to circulate. This only works if everyone gets the vaccine. If only 90% get that 65% effective vaccine, it still runs rampant.

In America we don't think this way. We take vaccines to help ourselves. If they do t work, why should I take it? Very few people get vaccines for the right reason, and that is to protect others, everyine. We think as individuals in America and that has strengths, and weaknesses. We think it should be a choice. We are free individuals. If I don't want a vaccine then I won't take one. In reality, again vaccines are not perfect, and if even 10% object, the virus will roar back.

I see these Twitter posts about vaccine rates dropping in red states. And almost every one of those post ls are from blue state liberals. They're fine with that. More dead Republicans. And they're wring. If red state Republicans stop vaccines, or even 10% of red state Republicans, that means EVERYONE starts getting it again. Blue state dems. Even vaccinated blue state dems, and even more red state dems will get it. Vaccinated people will start getting sick because.... Again..... 60% effective is 40% ineffective. Added circulation also allows the virus to mutate around the vaccines. This is why Americans who have been vaccinated are often required to get a booster if visiting other countries where the disease or virus is rampant.

But we have been lied to but worse, misinformed. And the science says, with many viruses, an imperfect vaccine can stop a virus, but only if everyone takes it. Then there are some viruses a vaccine will never work on. Influenza is one of those. Covid is another.

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This is why most vaccines should be mandatory and universal. You need herd immunity, as we're all protecting each other. This was explained ad nauseum during the pandemic, BTW, by the health experts that the right-wing hates.

I have two items to comment on with your post:

1) I see these Twitter posts about vaccine rates dropping in red states. And almost every one of those post ls are from blue state liberals. They're fine with that. More dead Republicans. And they're wrong.

No one should be cheering dead Americans if that's happening. But when Red State America stops universal vaccination, don't start lecturing "blue state liberals". The Blue State liberals want Red State Americans to get vaccinated. You should be angry with the red state morons (and there are some anti-vaxx morons in blue areas, too) and not someone on twitter making fun of the morons who reject the vaccines because of lies about the vaccines.

2) Then there are some viruses a vaccine will never work on. Influenza is one of those. Covid is another.

The people that took the vaccines were less likely to get infected, less likely to get severe covid, and less likely to die from Covid. Those are absolute facts. So, yes, the vaccines didn't eradicate Covid. But they still saved millions of lives, and because of that the Covid vaccines have been a great success.

Sure hope everyone is getting their COVID booster

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Sure hope everyone remembers who initiated Operation Warp Speed.***

Is your brain really that voided?***

Well no brain worms that would qualify me for a cabinet position.***

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Re: Sure hope everyone remembers who initiated Operation Warp Speed.***

That your kind called trump racist for saying it.***

Re: That your kind called trump racist for saying it.***

Re: Sure hope everyone is getting their COVID booster

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Get ready... You can hold your Lysol for a chaser.***

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Or who wanted a bigger covid stimulus than Congress proposed.***

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At this point

Oh it mattered A FKN LOT when people didnt want the first one.***

You mean just because they got fired from their jobs?

Correct, but the OP is talking about the here and now

It made a big difference in 2021/2022....

Wrong.

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The problem was getting to natural immunity.....

All vaccines are natural. They wouldn't work of they weren't natural.

So, I agree with alot of that....

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