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Obscene Pay for College Coaches
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Oct 31, 2023, 4:56 PM
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It seems to me that most of the hate for Dabo comes from his obscene salary. And that's understandable. $11 million a year to coach college football is ridiculous. In fact, pretty much all major program college coach salaries are ridiculous.
Since college football is supposed to be an amateur sport, shouldn't the coaches also be amateurs?
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
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Oct 31, 2023, 4:58 PM
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Nice first post coot 😉
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Freshman [-92]
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:07 PM
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"Anybody who doesn't worship Dabo is a Gamecock infiltrator."
lol
Imagine believing this
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Legend [6665]
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Oct 31, 2023, 4:59 PM
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When they say follow the money.... pretty sure it didn't mean for them to sell their entire soul.
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Freshman [-92]
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:07 PM
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The soul being sold seems to be pretty common in top tier college coaches.
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:00 PM
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It seems to me that most of the hate for Dabo comes from his obscene salary. And that's understandable. $11 million a year to coach college football is ridiculous. In fact, pretty much all major program college coach salaries are ridiculous.
Since college football is supposed to be an amateur sport, shouldn't the coaches also be amateurs?
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All-In [10563]
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oblivious to economics take***
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:01 PM
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: oblivious to economics take***
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:05 PM
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Economics says its ridiculous that a college football coach is the highest paid employee of pretty much every major college.
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Standout [241]
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Re: oblivious to economics take***
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:08 PM
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highest paid employee of Every State SC included
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Dynasty Maker [3586]
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Re: oblivious to economics take***
Oct 31, 2023, 7:09 PM
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In NC and KS it's the basketball coach.
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All-In [10563]
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Tell me you failed Econ 101
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:10 PM
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Or didn’t go to college, without telling me you failed Econ 101 or didn’t go to college. Take a lap dude.
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Dynasty Maker [3559]
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Re: oblivious to economics take***
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Oct 31, 2023, 8:28 PM
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Actually that’s definitely NOT what economics say.
Stay in your swim lane.
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Commissioner [1270]
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Orange Blooded [2278]
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Re: oblivious to economics take***
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Nov 1, 2023, 12:04 AM
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On the contrary, economics says that the coaches should be the highest paid employees of most schools. A few years back when Coastal Carolina won the CWS an economist estimated that it could have $100 million impact on the university. What do you think the economic impact would be for winning the CFP? The number of applicants at Clemson skyrocketed during our run, also. That means that it has had a huge educational impact as well.
Dabo needs to remember that dealing with all of the fans, not just the happy ones, is part of his job, but the level of his salary is justifiable.
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: oblivious to economics take***
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Nov 1, 2023, 12:40 AM
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Do you honestly think Coastal Carolina made $100 million off the College World Series?
Come on bro. That is beyond absurd.
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Commissioner [1211]
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Coastal statement is all you managed to glean from that reply, Numb Nu+s?...
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Nov 1, 2023, 1:37 AM
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Have the nearest poor soul in your vicinity read it to you, $hi+4br@ins. Congratulations, you meet the criteria required for confirmation as a (level IV) severe Mental Ret@rd!
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Oculus Spirit [40445]
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Its called capitalism. Im not saying I agree with it but
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:01 PM
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Same as athletes in general. If it were too much people would quit paying for cable and to go to games. But it’s not happening so it demands a price. Any artificial ceiling on a price is anticapitalist. Are you a socialist? Again I agree it’s too much but market drives it and we/Clemson were/are willing to pay for it.
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: Its called capitalism. Im not saying I agree with it but
Oct 31, 2023, 5:04 PM
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I'm not a socialist but I recognize that ultra-libertarian capitalism doesn't always produce ideal results. Prostitution, for example.
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Oculus Spirit [40445]
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Not sure your argument on prostitution, but it is considered illegal many places
Oct 31, 2023, 5:08 PM
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so I'm not sure you can compare. Not sure what your point is there, but likely the prostitute with the highest demand gets paid the most and I would bet some of them make more money than many of us will ever make. At least for a while ...
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: Not sure your argument on prostitution, but it is considered illegal many places
Oct 31, 2023, 5:11 PM
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My point is that "free market economics" doesn't always lead to optimal outcomes. Do you think society benefits from millions of people paying tens of millions of dollars for that "Wet ### P*ssy" song by that apewoman?
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All-In [10563]
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Racist and ignorant to economics
Oct 31, 2023, 5:19 PM
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Quite the tandem.
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Re: Racist and ignorant to economics
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Oct 31, 2023, 6:56 PM
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Dude is trying to set a record for fastest to reach message board geniuses. 😂😂😂
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: Racist and ignorant to economics
Oct 31, 2023, 8:28 PM
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I don’t like her music either, but that comment calls for the rarely used orange flag.
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: Racist and ignorant to economics
Nov 1, 2023, 12:41 AM
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Imagine thinking degenerates are people.
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Nov 1, 2023, 5:55 AM
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Stop with that G D $hi+,a whining virtue signaler motivated by the delusion of white guilt. A truly disgusting combination—
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Clemson Icon [27023]
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Re: One God cry me a River, would you...
Nov 1, 2023, 6:46 AM
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Are you talking to me?
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Re: Its called capitalism. Im not saying I agree with it but
Nov 1, 2023, 7:50 AM
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You should recognize the slight misinformation you've consumed has rendered much of your supposed common knowledge & beliefs inert. You cannot recognize ultra-libertarian capitalism, never existed,never been tested in a controlled environment. Laissez-faire approach is always preferred unless your dealing with 1 ethnicity, 1 race and it's only ever shown success w/ race: white, ethnicity: Dane—
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Game Changer [1631]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:09 PM
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I wonder if you feel 6 million for 2 wins is a great return on your money?
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 5:13 PM
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Do you actually think two national championships is worth what Dabo has been paid and will be paid?
You could cure cancer for what these college football coaches are making.
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Oculus Spirit [40445]
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Now you're showing your ignorance on science. I don't think you can throw money
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:42 PM
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at cancer and cure it. Yes, you can pay for research and I assure you billions have been with unfortunately only minimal results. While cold hearted you could easily argue economically that it doesn't make sense. Not saying that's right, but your argument is emotional not rational.
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: Now you're showing your ignorance on science. I don't think you can throw money
Oct 31, 2023, 6:42 PM
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So what "rational benefit" does society experience as a result of college football coaches receiving $100 million+ contracts?
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Orange Blooded [2278]
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Re: Now you're showing your ignorance on science. I don't think you can throw money
Nov 1, 2023, 12:32 AM
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All work and no play makes OldSchoolFootball a dull boy. In a perfect world teachers, policemen, firemen, and the military would be our highest paid employees. Even in that world we would need entertainment or we would burn out. I know first hand that you can only work 100 hours a week for so long. I think they make more than they should, but to say the there is no rational benefit to society is an ignorant comment.
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Clemson Icon [27023]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 6:53 PM
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I would be willing to bet a lot more than that has been spent on cancer research… yet still no cure. Mind bottling.
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:11 PM
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If you look at how much Clemson football brings in to the school and the Upstate, Dabo's salary is not out of line. We, as taxpayers, only pay a very small part of the salary because it comes from outside sources like sponsors. Compare coaches salaries to what professional athletes make and it is totally in line. Take Scottie Scheffler who won over $21 million this year on the PGA tour and consider who benefits and coaching salaries are in line.
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All-In [10563]
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Valley Coot has become a voice of reason!?!?
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Oct 31, 2023, 5:12 PM
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End of days are near 🤣😂🤣
BloodbeOrange®
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Can you believe this chode still posting??***
Oct 31, 2023, 11:01 PM
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 6:43 PM
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Dabo didn't bring in all the economic benefit by himself. Yet he and his fellow coaches got all the money.
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All-In [10563]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
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Oct 31, 2023, 6:50 PM
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He actually did and doubled the student body since he took over… if you don’t know that I can’t help you.
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 11:05 PM
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Key word there is won. Scottie won that money. It was not a guaranteed contract. Payment was based on performance.
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Commissioner [1211]
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Spot-on accurate take w/o....
Nov 1, 2023, 7:24 AM
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getting caught up defending Dabo & clearly articulated to near perfection. You could have taken the other truly absurd position(sadly a perspective shared by many of these embeciles) and played the dim bulb, the class warfare propagandized & programmed brainless zombie, the tribal "11 million,I could use 1 million" absent of a functional brain but unfortunately, you didn't. By doing so, you have CONFIRMED yourself to be a Monstrous Diabolical Troll in every other statement, reply, or new topic you've posted on Tigernet. Shocked and deeply wounded by your subterfuge, very distressing! A devastating realization...fyi–bawlhunter is distraught with confusion; he's currently convening with the mods(he meets with them on the reg) about your situation—
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Orange Blooded [3624]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 5:14 PM
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Why is 11 million for college football ridiculous? Would real estate be okay? How about an executive at Walmart or Exxon? Clemson football generates a lot of income. He is worth it.
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 6:45 PM
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"Why is 11 million for [a] college football [head coach] ridiculous?"
To ask the question is to answer it.
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Orange Blooded [3624]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
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Oct 31, 2023, 7:04 PM
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No it isnt. Why does a musician or an actor make millions? Capitalism.
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No, it's not obscene at all
Oct 31, 2023, 6:34 PM
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Have you seen the salary of a major league pitcher or an NBA basketball player? A successful coach is just as talented and gets paid a lot less.
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Re: No, it's not obscene at all
Oct 31, 2023, 6:48 PM
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Some MLB and NBA salaries are borderline obscene. But nothing comes close to college football coaches making hundreds of millions.
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All-In [10563]
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6th man in the NBA makes 25+ million
Oct 31, 2023, 8:04 PM
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😂😂😂😂 learn the market fool. Starters
Make 40-60 million each.
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 6:51 PM
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If someone is paying you 11 Mil to coach, how much are you making them? That's the real question.
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 8:29 PM
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You tell me. How much money does the Clemson Athletic Department provide to the rest of Clemson?
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Letterman [271]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 8:21 PM
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I think your argument, though framed around economics, is that you disagree with today’s societal value system. Mainly around worshipping celebrities and athletes. The reality of it is people will always pay for what entertains them above all else because they are constantly chasing happiness.
Examples are a donor that gives 5,000 dollars a year to Iptay to provide a scholarship for some unknown person but their own child has to borrow 100k for a degree. Or the people that spent 2,000 to see Taylor Swift while drowning in credit card debt. Reality is that people aren’t going to change. Dave Ramsey is trying to help.
However, the simple fact on your economic question is math. Dabo’s ROI to Clemson is extremely high. Universities are no longer places of higher education but simply Asset Management companies. Dabo has allowed for a significant increase in the AUM for CU.
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Hall of Famer [8487]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
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Oct 31, 2023, 8:25 PM
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College coaches should be paid, much like professors are paid. But coaches salaries are obscene. ... everywhere. Our society has its values messed up.
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Orange Blooded [3624]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 8:28 PM
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No we dont. Not everyone can do that job as HC at Clemson and to help generate hundreds of millions. Its not hard to become a professor.
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 8:32 PM
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No we dont. Not everyone can do that job as HC at Clemson and to help generate hundreds of millions. Its not hard to become a professor.
Are you a professor? Just asking
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Orange Blooded [3624]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 11:08 PM
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If I wanted to be I would be. Its not tough to become a professor. The odds are much easier than being a HC in college football at a mjor program.
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Commissioner [1211]
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Curious to know what informed...
Nov 1, 2023, 7:31 AM
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your hideously warped perspective? Bizarro, implausible, maybe clueless but most definitely hideous–(you're not a TRANSFORMER R ya? Cause that degree of mental illness would explain it)
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Game Changer [1806]
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 9:30 PM
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Ita TV... Has nothing to do with Clemson really, just so happens to have the name but big time college football isn't really amateurish in any way and hasn't been for a long time. In so many ways those kids have more amenities than they would in the NFL... The football program has made a crap load of money for the university itself and is the best publicity that they could ask for. Kids from all over come. In part bc of the football prominence.
Athletic departments make insane amounts more than they used to even 20 yrs ago. It's crazy to think but it's all market based.
Also I don't think Clemson actually pays him that much .. only a base from the school... Others would know though.
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Nov 1, 2023, 12:45 AM
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"The football program has made a crap load of money for the university itself and is the best publicity that they could ask for. Kids from all over come."
So Dabo makes it harder for South Carolinians to go to Clemson. And you think that's a good thing?
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Yes, it is a good thing.
Nov 1, 2023, 1:08 AM
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Clemson should always strive to become the best university it can be. That includes continually improving its academic reputation and the caliber of students it accepts.
Provided that a specified number of students are from South Carolina, it is fulfilling its mission as a public school.
Clemson was never intended to be, nor should it be, a school that anyone can attend. We already have plenty of those schools in SC, including the one in Columbia.
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Re: Yes, it is a good thing.
Nov 1, 2023, 1:13 AM
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Clemson's organizational purpose is to educate South Carolinians, not "be the best it can be." It should also be noted that "winning football games" is also not Clemson's organizational purpose.
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Oct 31, 2023, 11:49 PM
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Coach's salaries will stagnate and even drop as more of the money funnels to players. It will resemble the NFL in a few years.
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Dabos salary is obscene, but its consistent with the sport
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Nov 1, 2023, 12:23 AM
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and what he has accomplished.
With that said, that salary comes with high expectations. Dabo has failed to meet those expectations three years in a row now, and part of the job entails being prepared for the criticism that might come with it.
Dabo clearly has a lot of work to do in that area.
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Re: Dabos salary is obscene, but its consistent with the sport
Nov 1, 2023, 12:29 AM
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Does dabo generate the $ or is it the players?
18 percent of the revenue goes to the players. That includes the cost to cover medical expenses.
38 percent to administration. Thats were the fat is. Seems like a lot of no show jobs. Great work if you can get it
So, yes it a business. I really big business.
All of this big $ led to nil. It's just the way it is.
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Commissioner [1211]
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Obscene only to the legions of cow-eyed naive, empty vessels...
Nov 1, 2023, 1:18 AM
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Obscene: Normalizing 'Transformer' lifestyle & denying it's a severe mental illness—
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Freshman [-92]
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Re: Obscene only to the legions of cow-eyed naive, empty vessels...
Nov 1, 2023, 1:47 AM
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Not sure how deranged sodomites cutting off their naughty bits has anything to do with extreme college coach salaries but you do you, bro.
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Commissioner [1211]
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Just as I suspected, your choice of subject...
Nov 1, 2023, 9:17 AM
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matter confirms my suspicions: U R a flaming
h0m0s€Xual...or r u a gd Transformer? Ehh Optimus?
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Re: Obscene Pay for College Coaches
Nov 1, 2023, 9:32 AM
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I think Dabo's salary is just a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue generated for Clemson University, Clemson and the surrounding areas from football success.
Sometimes it includes the value you bring just like all the other high paid coaches.
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