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Orange Beast [6180]
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Is this statistically even possible?
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Is the fix already in?
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Orange Beast [6461]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
Oct 28, 2024, 9:42 AM
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The first chart invalidates the second chart
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All-Conference [410]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
Oct 28, 2024, 9:45 AM
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Do you have to register as one party or another to request a mail in ballot?
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Orange Beast [6461]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
Oct 28, 2024, 10:05 AM
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Not in SC
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Valley Protector [1408]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:16 AM
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You don't have to designate party to get a ballot in any state. The only time you have to declare a party is for primaries because you can only vote in one primary.
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National Champion [7996]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
Oct 29, 2024, 10:33 AM
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I have to declare in NC. I declare as Independent so I can vote in all primaries. States vary greatly.
Message was edited by: OneJedi® thanks to fat fingers and ducking autocorrect
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Valley Protector [1408]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
Nov 9, 2024, 4:53 PM
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Yes like I said. Federal Law prohibits restrictions in general elections ONLY primaries.
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Valley Protector [1408]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
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Nov 9, 2024, 4:56 PM
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Per NC Law= In a General Election, voters may vote for the candidates of their choice, regardless of the candidate's party affiliation.
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Asst Coach [883]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
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Oct 29, 2024, 10:43 AM
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There is no registration by party in SC for primaries so this form can't be correct. Republicans have long fought for registration by party in this state but have not been successful. Anyone can vote in either party primary but not both. I agree with the idea because there is so much trouble with one party interfering with the other. An example: Democrats who have a no opposition candidate or a strong candidate that they no will win often cross over and vote for the weakest candidate on the republican ballot to increase the chances of a democratic win in the general election. I believe every party should have a right to choose their candidate without interference from the other party.
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All-Conference [410]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
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Oct 28, 2024, 9:47 AM
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The second chart is mail in only and the first chart also includes early in person voting or did I misread that ?
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Orange Immortal [66545]
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Nope ... you didn't.
Oct 28, 2024, 4:13 PM
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The first chart is for early voting and, I am assuming, for ballots that have already been mailed-in and received. I have no clue how they know the party affiliation. When I voted early, there was no question about what party I voted for nor was I asked.
The only way I figure is that they are tying the primary voter to the early/mail-in voter, which validates my suspicions.
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National Champion [7996]
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Re: Nope ... you didn't.
Oct 29, 2024, 10:34 AM
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They look at how you vote. It’s public record.
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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Re: Nope ... you didn't.
Oct 29, 2024, 10:38 AM
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How you vote is most definitely not public record. You can look up someone's registration status, whether they voted, and if they're a registered member of a political party, but you can't see who they voted for.
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Gridiron Giant [15630]
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Re: Nope ... you didn't.
Oct 29, 2024, 11:15 AM
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You don't think they know your history of which primary you voted? 👌
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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Re: Nope ... you didn't.
Oct 29, 2024, 11:24 AM
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Yes, but who you voted for isn't public record. Some people vote in the Republican primary and then vote for a Democrat in the general election, and vice versa.
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Heisman Winner [86093]
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Lutz. If Harris wins SC, I'll agree it was fixed.
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Oct 28, 2024, 9:55 AM
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That ain't gonna happen though some voter fraud is committed by both sides I'd guess.
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TigerNet Icon [151296]
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SC doesn't have you register by party
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Oct 28, 2024, 9:58 AM
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so I'm thinking the whole thing is BS
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Trainer [44]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:04 AM
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The second chart is broken. If you choose any of the radio buttons the results is always 100% of one of the options. Party registration is 100% Democrat, Age is 100% 65+, and Gender is 100% Female.
Chart is broken.
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Clemson Icon [24892]
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The first problem is trusting anything from nbc
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Top TigerNet [28324]
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Re: The first problem is trusting anything from nbc
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:23 AM
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This is NBC so you will not hear anything positive about the Republicans. Just like ABC and CBS. All are straight liberal networks and push the democratic agenda very hard.
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Orange Immortal [67569]
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Campus Hero [13855]
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Or fox or literally any of them because they all
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:54 AM
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make their money by slanting everything to their target audience rather than attempting any kind of balance.
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Orange Immortal [67569]
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While I don't disagree...
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Oct 28, 2024, 11:20 AM
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at least Fox isn't guilty of propagating false narratives (e.g., Billary's lies about Russian collusion) or flatly refusing to report news that paints their preferred candidate or candidates in a negative light (e.g., Hunter Biden's laptop scandal, The Big Guys obvious cognitive decline, and influence peddling).
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Legend [6963]
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LOL
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Oct 28, 2024, 1:25 PM
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comedic gold there...
Fox paid 787$M for supporting a false narrative
get a f'n clue.. take off the red/orange glasses
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Clemson Icon [24892]
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LOL
Oct 28, 2024, 2:07 PM
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sure
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Game Changer [1865]
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What do you mean "sure"? That's a plain fact
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Oct 28, 2024, 4:52 PM
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And what's worse, it was a SETTLEMENT, meaning, Fox agreed to pay that to make the problem go away since they knew they had a lot more to lose if it progressed.
I swear, MAGA's default response to anything that challenges their preconceived beliefs is to claim it's fake.
It's like watching a little kid cover their eyes and assume that no one else can see them
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Orange Immortal [66545]
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What country are you from that puts the $ after the amount?***
Oct 28, 2024, 4:33 PM
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Game Changer [1865]
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Sick burn, dude. You really showed 'em.***
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Oct 28, 2024, 4:53 PM
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Orange Immortal [66545]
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Nice insult, dud! You really showed me.***
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Paw Warrior [4709]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
Oct 28, 2024, 10:59 AM
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If you will read the small print, the second chart is MODELED by a company call Targetsmart (I think). So it is an estimate, not a count.
The top chart is ALL early voting, while the bottom chart is all mail in ballots requested, so there is no conflict between the two.
Finally, it seems to be some malfunction in the second chart function as suggested above.
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National Champion [7853]
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Technically both are wrong. They are importing data
Oct 28, 2024, 2:23 PM
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into a system that is not built for SC data since you don’t do party registering in SC. They didn’t account for the states that don’t have party registration when they built the reporting tool. For SC - it should only show total registered voter, # voted early and # mail in requested/ received. There should be no red/blue republican/democrat radio buttons, filtering or displaying of the data. IMO SC does it right by that approach. Furthermore, I wish they would remove straight party voting ability from the top of all ballots.
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Paw Warrior [4709]
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Re: Technically both are wrong. They are importing data
Oct 28, 2024, 4:03 PM
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c90
I agree about straight party voting.
The Dem / Rep delineation is based on MODELING by Targetsmart from multiple commercial sources.
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CU Medallion [19702]
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Take screenshots with a grain of slaw
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:29 AM
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often the work of a troll in Idaho or Moscow
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Game Day Hero [4135]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
Oct 28, 2024, 10:29 AM
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You can’t control it anyways
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Orange Blooded [2157]
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I hate to break the news to you but Harris will win after two weeks
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:33 AM
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of counting ballots. Democrats will stuff the ballot boxes in PA, MI, OHIO, NC, GA, New Mexico and maybe VA to ensure those states go to the democrats. The only way Trump wins is if it is a landslide on election night. Once they start counting mail in ballots its all over. Welcome to the new world order....
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Paw Warrior [4709]
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Re: I hate to break the news to you but Harris will win after two weeks
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Oct 28, 2024, 11:05 AM
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Tigerfann,
Have you ever worked in a vote counting center ? There are experienced representatives of both parties present and plenty of scrutiny from each.
In precincts (of which there are many) which count the mail in ballots last, there will be a decided shift in vote totals towards the Democrats, because Democratic voters use mail in ballots far more than Republican voters do.
Please don't use this well-understood shift as some bullyshitt through which to invalidate the election.
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Orange Blooded [2157]
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Yes I have
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Oct 28, 2024, 11:37 AM
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I have also done political polling. Democrats in these critical areas simply registered and harvested enough "votes" from individuals who would not have voted through mail in ballots.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
voter turnout
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
About two-thirds (66%) of the voting-eligible population turned out for the 2020 presidential election – the highest rate for any national election since 1900. The 2018 election (49% turnout) had the highest rate for a midterm since 1914. Even the 2022 election’s turnout, with a slightly lower rate of 46%, exceeded that of all midterm elections since 1970.
Once you remove your head from your rect*m and look at the numbers it is very clear how the 2020 election was won by Biden
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Paw Warrior [4709]
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Re: Yes I have
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:23 PM
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Tigerfann,
I have read both articles through and I see no reference to "stuffing" ballot boxes - or any other method of illegally obtaining votes.
Joe Biden won the 2020 election by getting reluctant voters to vote - and Trump's erratic four years in office helped them to do that.
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Orange Blooded [2157]
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I'll write slower this time
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Oct 28, 2024, 1:26 PM
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https://www.electproject.org/2020g
Arizona 68.6%, Wisonsin 75.3%, Georgia 68.2%, Michigan 73.5%, Pennsylvania 70.1% all swing states and all had VEP turnout rates statistically significantly higher compared to US average.
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/president
Take these states away from Biden and the electoral ballots flip to 303 Trump to 235 Biden. All the democrats did was mail out voter registration to everyone in those states using COVID as the cover, harvest them, ensure they all voted for Biden and dump them in collection boxes.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Its a numbers game. Pick the states that are controled by democrats, harvest votes, win elections. I know I just wasted my time providing you with evidence. Don't worry you can still believe Trump was a russian spy and Epstein wasn't murdered....
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Paw Warrior [4709]
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I wish I had a crayon with which to help you here
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Oct 28, 2024, 4:27 PM
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My friend, you are providing some dots, but the connections between them are weak or non-existent.
First dot: wouldn't it make sense for swing state voters to be motivated to turn out in greater than average numbers since their votes were actually going to count in the election - ie have a dramatic impact on the results.
Second dot: yes, swing states decided the election. That is why they are called swing states. If they had voted another way, Trump might have been re-elected. But they didn't and he wasn't.
Third dot: Your article points out that out of 158 million votes cast, 1500 were fraudulent. You can check my maths, but that comes out to .0001. Hardly enough to change election results - or be ranting about.
Beyond that, can you explain how the Democrats "harvest them, ensure they all voted for Biden and dump them in collection boxes." Oh, and some evidence too please.
On top of that, the swing states that you have listed above were not controlled by Democrats.
This is what happens when you reach a conclusion and then do research to try to support it rather than the other way around. I don't imagine I have changed your mind, but perhaps you can see that your so called evidence is significantly lacking.
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110%er [3673]
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Re: I wish I had a crayon with which to help you here
Oct 29, 2024, 6:41 AM
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Ballots for Democrat voters are harvested by going door to door in high density population centers, ie urban large apartment complexes and "assist" ordering mail in ballots, then going back and "assist" the completion of the ballots and ensuring the delivery or mailing of the ballots. Republican voters are typically suburban or rural and it takes a lot more effort to ensure that their votes get cast. The cheating is the amount and type of "assistance." This elections can be "legally" stolen. This used to happen at the polls with poll workers or observers allowed in the booth to provide assistance which went beyond what was allowed, such as asking, "Don't you want to vote for LBJ or Bill Clinton? This is how you do it." (or actually voting for the person they were assisting.)
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Paw Warrior [4709]
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Re: I wish I had a crayon with which to help you here
Oct 29, 2024, 10:31 AM
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So they assist people in casting their vote for President - and that is election stealing ???
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Legend [6963]
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no party registration in SC, so invalid data no matter how you look at #2
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:39 AM
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why would you even think that was anything other than an error?
amazing how much trumplethinskin and the maga cult have f'd things up
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Clemson Icon [24892]
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LOL you support kamala
Oct 28, 2024, 2:08 PM
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walz too LOL
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Legend [6963]
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only alternative
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Oct 28, 2024, 4:21 PM
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i don't support:
the felon
the con man
the grifter
the adjudicated (multiple) fraud
the adjudicated sex offender
the adjudicated defamer
the tax cheat
the guy who is too f'n old and too f'n nuts to old any public office
can you imagine how the right wing nutcases would react if another candidate showed up with a face full of orange make-up?
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Orange Blooded [2456]
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The best president of your lifetime. Get out of the bubble of legacy media***
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Legend [6963]
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would love to vote for a principled conservative
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Oct 29, 2024, 5:23 AM
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but there is no place for one in the maga-verse
so, how is life in the cult?
are you a sucker or a liar? to support todays GOP, you gotta be one or the other
do you believe the lie or just go along with/ignore it?
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Orange Immortal [66545]
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Have you ever heard of psychological projection?
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Oct 29, 2024, 9:56 AM
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Look it up. I suspect you are suffering from it.
You are being played by the democrats.
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Orange Immortal [66545]
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Re: only alternative
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So, you are voting morals? That is funny!
There is a reason they call her Horizontal Harris. Furthermore, she put people in prison for the very things she was doing.
Her policies are clearly socialist in nature. She is merely a puppet and has had one of the lowest approval ratings for a VP in history because she was utterly useless. She is nothing more than a figurehead with no experience and is part of an economy that is tanking most everyone in middle class.
Furthermore, let's let in every terrorist and felon possible is the Border Czar mantra. And, while we are at it, let's pay for sex re-assignment for prisoners.
Don't throw morality at me, you pompous Pharisee! Sin is sin no matter how you brand it. We aren't electing a savior; we are electing the person that is going to lead this country and do what is best for the MAJORITY. One has proven experience for a great economy, keeping Russia and China under control, a border under control. The other is cackling jackal with bubbles popping in her head.
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Legend [6963]
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another sucker for the big lie
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Oct 29, 2024, 5:26 AM
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and another person who doesn't know what socialism is
you fear some imasginary socialism when a real fascism is being shown to you every time trumplethinskin speaks
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Orange Immortal [66545]
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Please provide PROOF that Trump is promoting fascism.
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He has a track record as president. And, I can guarantee you, your life was better under him as president EXCEPT for your utter hatred and contempt for him.
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Tiger Titan [50260]
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Wrong Board.***
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Rival Killer [2954]
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
Oct 28, 2024, 2:18 PM
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It’s well known that the overwhelming majority of mail in voters are democrats. Republicans usually choose to vote in person. Nothing to worry about here
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Orange Blooded [2388]
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It is at NBC***
Oct 28, 2024, 4:30 PM
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Re: Is this statistically even possible?
Oct 29, 2024, 6:36 AM
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No that’s not possible, because my 95 year old parents had mail in ballots and are republicans.
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