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Serious predictions
Nov 24, 2014, 4:08 PM
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Today was a typical Monday in the WestZone...we talked about the game and the matchups, would Watson play, how would Stoudt perform if he has to play, etc. And for the first time I really got down to thinking about my feelings about the game....So here are some thoughts and you can agree or disagree. I just like a lively discussion.
I like what South Carolina has been able to do on offense. But I don't think they can run the football (they haven't for a few years, except by a QB on third down) and that won't change this year. Making Dylan Thompson extremely one dimensional leads to turnovers. They will, of course, score points. Jayron Kearse or someone will blow a coverage and Byrd or Cooper will catch a long one, or even two or three that will lead to points. I see South Carolina in the 17-20 point range, top end.
As for Clemson - it all comes down to turnovers, just like it has over the past five seasons. I've defended Cole Stoudt a bunch on here, but if he is late in delivering the football (like he was at Tech and some other games) he will get picked off even though South Carolina is bad defensively. I expect Morris to pound the rock with Dye and Gallman. So much so that about midway through the second quarter Clemson fans will be complaining about how boring the game plan is.
If Watson plays and can play the whole game, I expect Clemson to win by 8 or more. If Stoudt has to go part of the game, I still think Clemson can win but the defense or special teams will have to find a way to get a score. Right now, gut says 20-17 Clemson, but alot of that depends on Watson's health. Not X's and O's, but DeShawn Williams told us today that the coaching staff is focused on getting this win, and I've been told there are no outsiders (coaches, friends, etc) at practice this week. I think South Carolina gets Clemson's best shot.
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Good stuff as always David
Nov 24, 2014, 4:11 PM
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Also I like that some coot TDed you.
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Hey
Nov 24, 2014, 4:11 PM
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I ain't no coot.
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Well......
Nov 24, 2014, 4:12 PM
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I can't worry about Coots and their thumbs. Who knows where those things have been???
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would you like for me to tell you?
Nov 24, 2014, 4:13 PM
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I'd be glad to, but LBU might get mad.
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Who?***
Nov 24, 2014, 4:13 PM
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the lady on the end of my thumb
Nov 24, 2014, 4:14 PM
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duh.
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Sounds like
Nov 24, 2014, 4:15 PM
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a personal problem
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for me
Nov 24, 2014, 4:16 PM
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or the lady?
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Re: Well......***
Nov 24, 2014, 4:14 PM
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Glad to see it only took the coaches 5 years to get
Nov 24, 2014, 4:14 PM
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Focused winning the game and giving the coots our best shot..
As always, thanks for your solid input David. Very interested in practice reports today and tomorrow...
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We've been focused on this game every year but for whatever
Nov 24, 2014, 4:47 PM
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reason haven't always played well. Still, you can't really say we were much better any year of the 5. A lil' better last year and the year before, maybe, at best.
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Re: Serious predictions
Nov 24, 2014, 4:15 PM
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Being completely honest and realistic - I think if Cole plays the whole game, we lose a close one - somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-17 or so. I think if Deshaun gets the start, we can win big (14+), but I'm honestly convinced Dabo and Chad want to see Cole play and win this whole game ("blah blah we wanted to send Cole out with a victory against the rivals in his last game at DV blah"). That being said, if Deshaun does start and we get a good lead, I can see them pulling him and putting in Cole... Cole throws a pick or two and we win by a TD. I pray that Dabo and/or Chad put whatever feelings they have aside and start the QB that gives us the best chance to play the game. If Deshaun is cleared by the doctors, let him start and play as much as he wants. I'd like to think we'll win - and I do believe we can, but it all comes down to who starting in that position.
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Out of curiousity..
Nov 24, 2014, 4:17 PM
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what makes you think Watson can make it the whole game ?
Clemson wins, sticking to my 26-17 prediction
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Re: Out of curiousity..
Nov 24, 2014, 4:23 PM
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I don't think they'll be able to get to him much, if at all. I think we rely heavily on a running game and keep him from having to scramble. Their D is atrocious. In no way do I think we send out a 75% healthy DW and let him turn into the next RG3, but... I think he's fine and all this mess is just a way to once again put the game in Cole's hands. Based on that other article, I get the feeling they've already told him he's got the start.
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Have we been watching the same OL?
Nov 24, 2014, 4:32 PM
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I don't have much confidence in them being able to keep pressure off of DW. If he plays, he needs to be in good enough shape to take some hits/and or run for his life. It doesn't take a great DL to get to our QBs, GT and Wake got behind the LOS all night.
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Re: Serious predictions
Nov 24, 2014, 4:41 PM
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Wiser ...you honestly believe that the coaches are willing to risk this game, by not playing Deshaun if he's healthy, so Cole might go out as winning QB?
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Re: Serious predictions
Nov 24, 2014, 4:51 PM
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I hate to say it, and to question our coaching staff - but yea... Yea, I do. I don't think they realistically thought Stoudt was the best QB at the beginning of the year, I don't see how Schuessler is so much worse than Stoudt that they wouldn't give him a shot until it was too late in the GT game. I don't think Stoudt gives us our best chance to win - I don't even think he's our 2nd best QB on the team. But I do think, for whatever rea$on, Cole has been promised this game and that he will start it.
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Re: Serious predictions
Nov 24, 2014, 4:17 PM
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Really only worried about their guys running free downfield. I like our defense and our safeties a lot, but I've noticed that both Jones and Byrd have the speed to get over the top of about anyone if they get a free release and can run to a "spot" downfield. Really think it's in our best interest to abuse those guys with our bigger corners at LOS.
I could see us completely shutting them down or them getting some big plays that keep it close in light of those details.
I don't think they can run either.
If Morris ran the ball so much in the first half that people were complaining about being bored...I would be one happy Tiger fan.
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I second a boring but thorough run game
Nov 24, 2014, 4:18 PM
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Just pound away and beat them physically.
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We play press man w/ Alexander on cooper, they won't
Nov 24, 2014, 4:27 PM
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have a chance for 20 pts. Defense I'm not worried about. I Just saw this team score 6 pts against a horrible GT defense that hasn't stopped anyone all year but us. As bad as the coot defense may be, it won't matter if we play like that. Here's to hoping the bad luck is on them this time around.
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Re: Serious predictions
Nov 24, 2014, 4:18 PM
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Coach "V" will have the "D" ready if Coach "M" will get away from calling the plays everyone in the country knows he's going to call and comes up with the plays our "O" can run look to see most of the cockerel fans departing DV early 3rd quarter with OBS wearing a Oxygen Mask
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Just curious, did the players or coaches mention anything
Nov 24, 2014, 4:18 PM
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about this rumor going around that we are going to let the coots run down the hill before we do?
I really hope this is just that...a rumor.
TIA davidsteele
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Re: Just curious, did the players or coaches mention anything
Nov 24, 2014, 4:20 PM
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LOL
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Re: Are you an idiot or just insane?
Nov 24, 2014, 4:26 PM
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Yes, he is.
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We've had a tendency to play tighter than a snare drum....
Nov 24, 2014, 4:20 PM
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in this game which has contributed, at least in part to the streak. We just need to relax, go out and play, and have some fun.
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Funny, same reason our baseball team loses to
Nov 24, 2014, 4:21 PM
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those inbreds too. It's actually not funny, like haha funny, but sad funny...well I think you get what I'm saying.
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Wishful thinking....another 63-17....
Nov 24, 2014, 4:22 PM
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serious prediction - I think we pull out a close one. I don't know that either team makes it past 21 points.
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Is this really different
Nov 24, 2014, 4:23 PM
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than the past year or two? I had heard from players that the coaches put a lot of pressure on them to win this game. Coach Morris alluded to playing tight in his interview. I am honestly curious as to how the coaches have walked that thin line between keeping everyone focused and having the team on eggshells.
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If we win, we should get countdown clocks for every game!!
Nov 24, 2014, 4:25 PM
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Then we may be world champions!
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Our D is still vulnerable to the zone read.
Nov 24, 2014, 4:25 PM
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I know Thompson isn't Shaw, but do you think they will have that in the playbook?
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I hope so. Dylan would get wrecked. He's no Shaw.***
Nov 24, 2014, 4:33 PM
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Re: of course, but it wont be dt running it.
Nov 24, 2014, 4:47 PM
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Who?
OH - Pharoh
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Running down the hill....
Nov 24, 2014, 4:26 PM
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I saw a few posts earlier about this, and figured it was just somebody being funny. And then I see a few more posts, and I wonder if people if people are just gullible. I mean you do realize that no opposing team - especially those people - will ever, ever, EVER run down that hill unless they pay to get into the Ladies Clinic in late July. Right???
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Re: Running down the hill....
Nov 24, 2014, 4:27 PM
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Well that's not what I heard.
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Re: Running down the hill....
Nov 24, 2014, 4:28 PM
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Wait - so you're saying their kicker gets to run down the hill next Summer... I think that's what you're saying.
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Obviously you didn't see where Nikki
Nov 24, 2014, 4:29 PM
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Haley made a national holiday for it
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At this point there's just too much talk circulating to
Nov 24, 2014, 4:35 PM
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completely ignore this as a possibility. So if their team isn't going to run down the hill, you think it might just be Marcus Lattimore that gets to run down it? Maybe the rumor just exploded from Marcus to the entire team.
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i went and checked on fgf and tif and there is talk of ML
Nov 24, 2014, 4:37 PM
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being on our sideline, but nothing about how he got there? that would be a classy move by clemson, imo. would he ride the bus or just meet up at the rock?
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We have a different bus for Gamecocks to ride
Nov 24, 2014, 4:40 PM
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Has anyone contacted UPS about this?
Nov 24, 2014, 4:49 PM
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What can Brown do for you
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