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I sure hope Cam has plans on coming back for his Senior year..
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Apr 19, 2025, 5:05 PM
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You aren't going anywhere with an approach like that to LH pitchers.
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Re: I sure hope Cam has plans on coming back for his Senior year..
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Apr 19, 2025, 5:07 PM
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yep he is just going to say no to that first round money. smfh.
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Apr 19, 2025, 5:11 PM
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Man, I love Cam, but have you been watching all year. He is playing his way out of the first round. It’s shame to.
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Apr 19, 2025, 5:13 PM
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people know he has been hurt. he aint dropping far. that said i wish he would pick it up some.
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Apr 19, 2025, 5:31 PM
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I am as big a Cam fan as anyone, but swinging at balls out of the strike zone has nothing to do with being injured & he continues to do just that. I hope he can get it going sooner than than later.
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I talked to a MLB scout...he stated Cam has dropped more than anyone is willing
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Apr 19, 2025, 9:43 PM
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to admit. To not being drafted due to his arm injury. He wont DH and cannot throw anyone out. He has to return and have an outstanding SR year. That was 3 weeks ago.
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Orange Phenom [14534]
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No way he goes undrafted
Apr 19, 2025, 9:47 PM
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Even if he were to slide due to injury concerns, somebody would take a flier on him and try to get him cheap. He's far too talented.
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Re: I talked to a MLB scout...he stated Cam has dropped more than anyone is willing
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Apr 19, 2025, 10:25 PM
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he doesnt have an arm injury. he has an arm that got surgically repaired and he is still rehabbing it. did you miss the catch he made today. smfh. the surgery aint got nothing to do with his hitting. hopefully he will snap out of his little funk and finish the year strong. he will not be back.
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Re: I talked to a MLB scout...he stated Cam has dropped more than anyone is willing
Apr 21, 2025, 12:05 AM
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You sure do shake your head alot! You must have accidentally hit your all CAPS Button shaking your head, ha!
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Apr 19, 2025, 6:28 PM
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Yeah sometimes he takes plays off. That fly ball late in the game should have been caught by him instead of him sauntering in and it dropping in front of him.
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Apr 19, 2025, 5:20 PM
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He's going to get paid for sure...but there's 30 other players in college alone that are better...that's not including high school....late 2nd round at best for him.
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Apr 19, 2025, 5:21 PM
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care to wager mr baseball
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Apr 19, 2025, 5:30 PM
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Would love to....what's your wager
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Apr 19, 2025, 5:32 PM
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do not care
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Apr 19, 2025, 6:01 PM
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Cam is not first round material. That is just TV announcer talk.
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Apr 19, 2025, 6:08 PM
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lets see who would you trust. these guys or the goobers of tigernet.
Isaiah Vazquez/Getty Images MLB MLB 2025 Mock Draft 3.0: Predictions for Every 1st-Round Pick Joel Reuter Mar 7, 2025 The 2025 college baseball season is underway and the high school season will be in full swing in just a few short weeks, so now is the perfect time for an updated 2025 MLB mock draft.
The Washington Nationals have the No. 1 overall pick after winning the draft lottery back in December at the annual winter meetings, and they will be on the clock when the draft festivities kick off on July 13.
Oklahoma prep shortstop Ethan Holliday and Texas A&M outfielder Jace LaViolette were the consensus top two players in the class heading into the 2025 season, though Florida State left-hander Jamie Arnold is also a name to know at the top of draft boards.
Of course, a lot can still change in the coming months with players rising and falling based on their on-field production and more scouting exposure.
What follows is a full first-round mock draft, including the Compensation Round and Competitive Balance Round A through pick No. 43.
That gives us a chance to include all 30 teams, since the Los Angeles Dodgers, New York Mets and New York Yankees each had their first pick moved back 10 spots as a penalty for how far they exceeded the luxury-tax threshold.
Nos. 1-3 1 of 10 COLLEGE BASEBALL: MAR 05 Texas A&M at Texas David Buono/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images Jace LaViolette 1. Washington Nationals: SS Ethan Holliday, Stillwater HS (OK)
Holliday has a build that more closely resembles his power-hitting father than his top prospect brother, with a 6'4", 200-pound frame and some of the best raw power in the 2025 draft class. It remains to be seen if he will outgrow shortstop once he fills out, but his offensive polish and true middle-of-the-order upside could make him the No. 1 overall pick.
2. Los Angeles Angels: LHP Jamie Arnold, Florida State
Arnold entered the spring as the consensus top pitching prospect in the 2025 class, and he has done nothing to diminish the hype while going 2-0 with a 1.13 ERA, 0.56 WHIP and a 24-to-2 strikeout-to-walk ratio in 16 innings over his first three starts. The 6'1", 188-pound southpaw is more-or-less a finished product, and he fits the mold the Angels have prioritized in recent years as someone who should move quickly through the minors.
3. Seattle Mariners: OF Jace LaViolette, Texas A&M
LaViolette hit .305/.449/.726 with 29 home runs and 78 RBI in 68 games last spring, and he is still very much in the conversation to be the No. 1 overall pick, but there are some swing-and-miss concerns that could impact his draft stock. He fanned 81 times at a 24.3 percent clip last year, and is hitting .225/.429/.475 with nine hits, 14 walks and 15 strikeouts in 56 plate appearances to begin his junior campaign. His offensive upside is exactly what the Mariners need, but he also comes with some clear risk.
Nos. 4-6 2 of 10 NCAA BASEBALL: JUN 01 - Clemson Regional - Coastal Carolina vs Clemson John Byrum/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images Cam Cannarella 4. Colorado Rockies: RHP Tyler Bremner, UC Santa Barbara
With easy upper 90s velocity on his fastball and arguably the best changeup in the 2025 class, Bremner slots right alongside Jamie Arnold as the top college arms in the class heading into the college season. He went 11-1 with a 2.54 ERA and 104 strikeouts in 88.2 innings last year, and he has allowed just eight base runners through his first 13 innings this season.
5. St. Louis Cardinals: RHP Seth Hernandez, Corona HS (CA)
The first high school pitcher was not selected last year until Cam Caminiti went to the Atlanta Braves at No. 24 overall, and a prep arm has not been taken inside the top five since Jackson Jobe went No. 2 overall in 2021. With a highly projectable 6'4", 190-pound frame, three present plus pitches and good overall command, Hernandez is the type of pitcher who could buck that trend.
6. Pittsburgh Pirates: OF Cam Cannarella, Clemson
Cannarella is a sure-fire future center fielder who could develop into a Gold Glove defender at the position, which takes some pressure off his bat. He hit .337/.417/.561 with 16 doubles, 11 home runs and 60 RBI in 58 games as a sophomore, and while he may never hit more than 15 home runs in a season, his bat-to-ball skills are among the best in the 2025 college class.
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Apr 19, 2025, 7:28 PM
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I sure am pulling for him to still be picked in that first round, but let’s look at things objectively. As we speak his average is almost ducked below .300, his power numbers are way down with only 2 HRs, & he has shown a poor throwing arm in center field with runners consistently running on him. That’s a hard case to make for a first round pick.
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Apr 19, 2025, 6:15 PM
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You aren't going anywhere with an approach like that to LH pitchers.
Friends with roomie. He already stated he was or is looking for new roomie. Writing on wall
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Apr 19, 2025, 7:31 PM
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Anyone with a chance to be drafted as Junior will sign. You have zero leverage as a Senior and guys know that. I’m sure his stock has slipped but he should still go in the first few rounds based on tools alone, and even if he were to fall to like the 10th round he’s going to sign and go pro.
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Apr 19, 2025, 8:02 PM
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You are 100% right. Very few draft eligible Juniors in baseball that happen to get drafted come back for their Senior season. Not only do they have no bargaining position as a Senior, but most are ready to get things started in the minors to try to work their way through the farm system.
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Apr 20, 2025, 7:41 PM
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If you comeback for your final year the player loses draft leverage. Cam was 1st round preseason, but if he drops it’s because the MLB teams are concerned the shoulder injury is a more permanent problem. Shoulders can be tricky and recovery thus far shows he can’t make the throws necessary at the pro level so why would you draft him early? His hitting has been demonstrated to be very good per his earlier seasons. They know he’s being pitched around because we lack anyone to protect him in the 4 and 5 spot. They can develop him further beyond his natural skills but not if he’s damaged goods. So bottomline he’s kind of screwed because he’ll lose draft position if he stays and he’s losing draft position now because he can’t show he’s going to fully recover.
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Apr 20, 2025, 7:45 PM
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You’re a fool!
He’s a future gold glove CF. They won’t care about his bat if he plays defense like he’s capable and the CF is never known for arm strength. His bat and arm will get better when he’s 100% and trusts his arm/shoulder.
The amount of people on here that have no idea about the game of baseball is unbelievable. Glad you’re a fan but stop it with this nonsense!
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Re: I sure hope Cam has plans on coming back for his Senior year..
Apr 20, 2025, 9:17 PM
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it truly is mind boggling.
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Apr 20, 2025, 9:41 PM
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I'll make it quite easy for you...If Cam cannot hit consistently he will not make it through the minors. He's very very talented no doubt, but he's on trajectory to the likes of Eli White or Michael Taylor...very good glove but their bat will have them bouncing from organization to organization...Baseball is a hitters game dude....The SS is about the only tolerable position in MLB where the player can hit like sh*t but as long as he can glove it he will play.
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Apr 21, 2025, 9:17 AM
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I disagree, center field is also one of those positions where if if you can run and/or play elite defensey ou will have a roll in the majors.
You're right about the journeyman part, but 10 years in the league is nothing to scoff at.
- Jackie Bradley Jr. played 11 years in the MLB and was an elite defensive center fielder but a career .225 hitter. - Billy Hamilton really only brought one thing to the table--elite, game changing speed, but was exceptionally poor at actually getting on base--he played 11 years in the majors. - Kevin Pillar was/is also an elite defensive center fielder and has played 13 years in the league despite not hitting at a high clip or hitting for much power. - Kevin Kiermaier, elite defense, didn't bring much offense to the table
If a team knew that the floor for Cannarella was Bradley, Kiermaier, Pillar, etc. with the potential to also be a .280+ average and 15 homer guy--which Cam has flashed that potential in college... teams will take a flier on that guy all day long.
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Apr 20, 2025, 10:33 PM
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And there it is. If you don’t agree with me than you must be a fool for I am the baseball guru. Come on give me a break. I got news for you if he can’t hit his way up through the minors to get to the majors it doesn’t matter how good his glove plays. There are plenty of plus fielders at all positions in the minors including CF who can’t stay in the majors because their bat doesn’t play well enough. The only positions that can rise up through the minors quick based on defense alone is SS & catcher. Even if you completely disagree there’s no need to throw out insults & pretend you smarter than everyone else. A simple response why you disagree would suffice.
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Re: I sure hope Cam has plans on coming back for his Senior year..
Apr 21, 2025, 5:33 AM
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pacontaco2001 For what it's worth, I was replying to the OP not you, he's not coming back another year. And I agree with most of what you said, but his bat and arm strength will come back. Labrum surgeries take up to 18 months to be 100%.
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Re: I sure hope Cam has plans on coming back for his Senior year..
Apr 21, 2025, 9:02 AM
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I apologize to you. I certainly did not to intend to antagonize. I hope he turns it around & plays like we have all become accustomed to. I realize it takes awhile to fully gain your strength to full, but from my perspective his offensive struggles have nothing to do with his recovery. His recovery may account for his power numbers being down. However, he has continued to chase way too many balls out of the strike zone & has had more swing & miss than I can recall from him. That has nothing to do with recovery from injury. In my opinion.
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Apr 20, 2025, 11:14 PM
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Man I hate keeping this going, but it occurred to me that I am not sure my position is clear. I never said Cam wouldn’t be drafted nor that he wouldn’t be a high draft pick. I agree that regardless he will sign & not be back. My point was that unless he gets out of this offensive funk he currently finds himself in & returns to the offensive player we all know he can be then he will slide out of the first round. And, who knows he has time still to figure things out & do just that. Preseason he was rated in everybody’s top 5 college players available for draft lists. As of today he hasn’t played at that level. Concerns about his recovery from surgery would be mostly alleviated & mute if he was posting Cam like offensive numbers, but by underperforming those concerns can be an excuse to drop him out of the first round. He still can be a high pick if he slides. That’s all.
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Pro drafts are as much (or more) about potential than actual production
Apr 21, 2025, 9:41 AM
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And Cam has already shown what he can do for two seasons - both in terms of potential and actual production. Sure he's having a down year (by his standards), but even so he's still hitting over .300 and is currently posting the highest OBP of his career. It's mostly his power numbers that are down.
So we have a guy that showed top 10 potential for two seasons and then "struggled" a bit in his JR year while recovering from a serious shoulder injury. Teams that are interested in drafting him are going to make sure his shoulder looks good long-term, and if they are satisfied with that they are going to draft him based on what he showed his first two seasons at Clemson.
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Re: Pro drafts are as much (or more) about potential than actual production
Apr 21, 2025, 12:05 PM
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Good post. I agree with you for the most part. Plenty of players have been drafted merely on their potential alone. They did mention during one of the more recent TV broadcasts of the games that it seemed that teams were pitching Cam differently this year. Teams have 2 years of film on Cam & he is also not an unknown any longer , he is recognized as a star. They noticed he was getting pitched inside quite a bit more this year. Most hitters have a trouble area somewhere that gives them more trouble than others. Maybe, teams have found Cam’s. If all this is true he needs to show he can make adjustments because once in the minors it’s a constant battle to make adjustments as teams learn what works on hitters & what doesn’t. I have confidence Cam has the tools & talent to show he can make those needed adjustments. I just hope he can do that before the draft & before post season arrives.
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Re: Pro drafts are as much (or more) about potential than actual production
Apr 21, 2025, 12:39 PM
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He also hasn't had a ton of protection in the lineup this year, so pitchers would rather deal with his speed than his bat. Up until the Stanford series, he was followed by Gaffney, Priest, and Jarrell if I remember right, and all of those guys outside of Gaffney haven't really started hitting well until that Stanford series. Now he has Purify behind him, which helps somewhat more than before. I think he's a first round talent for sure; there's just a lot of nuances that goes into the MLB draft that doesn't exist in other sports. They only get so much money for all draft picks, so teams might draft someone higher for less money than others if they feel like they can get someone later to sign by offering more. MLB teams mainly draft off of tools rather than stats (although they do play a role for sure), otherwise Obertop (0.302 AVG and 1.071 OPS) last year would have been a top pick and Will Taylor (0.230 AVG and 0.942 OPS) wouldn't have been drafted at all.
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