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Game Changer [1802]
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I see mickey conn hanging...
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Jan 19, 2025, 11:37 AM
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Right there in Dabo's hip pocket on a lot of recruiting photos. I guess he is ain't going no where anytime soon. Guess joey batson will still be here also with those same old dinosaur training techniques. Oh well, still very excited to get Tom Allen. Go Tigers!
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Jan 19, 2025, 11:39 AM
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Its HILARIOUS the amount of people on here that believe just replacing Wes will fix all of our problems
We were terrible this season in every single aspect of the game. Offense, defense, special teams, strength and conditioning were all poor and we fired ONE PERSON
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Oculus Spirit [44289]
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Re: I see mickey conn hanging...
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Jan 19, 2025, 11:43 AM
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I believe JB is well respected by the players and one would think he will be afforded the opportunity to leave under his own terms.
Special Teams is the biggest joke and if changes are not made there then there are some definite issues imo.
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Orange Blooded [2198]
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Re: I see mickey conn hanging...
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Jan 19, 2025, 12:52 PM
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I'm guessing that coach Allen takes over special teams coordination.
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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Offense was 11th in the country and other than the personnel related
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Jan 19, 2025, 11:45 AM
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blocked kicks, special teams have done fine. Been great on FGs otherwise, kickoffs have routinely been in the end zone, and punt and kickoff coverage and returns have been fine.
Defense is another story, one that one solid DC can fix.
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Oculus Spirit [44289]
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Re: Offense was 11th in the country and other than the personnel related
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Jan 19, 2025, 11:58 AM
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Our punter is average at best most years. Allowed more block kicks this season than I can remember the whole time Dabo has been here. Kickoffs are fine. When was the last time we blocked a punt? We are horrible at special teams imo.
The part that makes it worse is we get field goals blocked and the issue lingered. Wouldn’t you think that issue would have been fixed after the FSU game. It was embarrassing. I’m thinking one of you football gurus on here would have fixed that by the Tuesday after FSU.
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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This is the first year we saw the kick blocks, but it was fixed when
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Jan 19, 2025, 1:21 PM
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Woods got back in his kick team position.
It’s not like we’ve been seeing our kicks blocked for years. It was new issue this year, due to personnel. It was fixed. That’s not a reason to overhaul special teams coaching.
How often do you see blocked punts, anywhere? I venture to guess there are numerous programs who don’t have blocked punts. That’s not a reason to overhaul special teams coaching.
Swanson had some bad kicks. He’s also been great at pinning people inside the 20. Regardless, he’s gone now and hopefully we have someone who can average better. But again, this was personnel and not coaching related.
Kickoffs almost always go for a touchback. Zero issues there.
Kickoff and punt returns - meh, average but then again there’s been nothing there that screams coaching change.
So all in all, I don’t see anything that’s been a lingering issue that demands coaching changes.
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Clemson Conqueror [11417]
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Sorry - but if 5* DT is required for FG blocking unit to be effective - - -
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Jan 19, 2025, 1:46 PM
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- - - then the blocking scheme itself is horrendous.
Or maybe it is that 95% of the other college FB teams also have 5* DTs to make their FG blocking unit competent.
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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Its been the same kick team coaching for years.
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Jan 19, 2025, 1:59 PM
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Do you think we just forgot how to coach the position that was letting dudes through, or do you think it was the dude playing the position? Have you seen this before in Dabo’s tenure? It hasn’t been an issue, ever. Again, this was a brand new thing, and yes, it was fixed with personnel. So you suggest overhauling special teams coaching because of a brand new issue that was fixed during the year?
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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Oh I agree we need to find a punter.
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Jan 19, 2025, 12:25 PM
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But it’s not like Swanson was poorly coached.
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That's not true
Jan 19, 2025, 1:57 PM
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You don't end up near the bottom of the FBS in special teams efficiency without having multiple issues. Punting was atrocious, and our punt block/return unit generally grades poorly because we never block kicks and we also don't do well on returns.
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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We *struggled* with Georgia. Who else you got?
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Jan 19, 2025, 3:11 PM
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Against the 22nd ranked SOS, we were #11 on the country. And by the way, every single team in America runs up their numbers against lesser opponents. It’s only logical that offense does less against the better teams. And too, we had more passing yards than any other team against Texas. We had 3 passing TDs while they gave up 4 all year coming into the game. Texas is #3 in total defense, so that kind of throws a monkey wrench in your elementary opinion.
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Re: I see mickey conn hanging...
Jan 19, 2025, 1:43 PM
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We were terrible on offense? Care to back that up with any facts?
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Clemson Icon [24060]
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The last time you Beta Males were complaining bout Batson,
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Jan 19, 2025, 1:49 PM
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The WE WON 2 NC's. Time for you and your kind to realize. You don't have a clue, AND you really no longer matter !
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Dabo is following his version of design of experiments, only changing one
Jan 19, 2025, 1:51 PM
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variable at a time. It takes awhile.
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Jan 19, 2025, 3:13 PM
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Tiger nick please apply for jobs. You have all the answers.
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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Why would Conn be let go??
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Jan 19, 2025, 11:42 AM
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He’s been coaching safeties since 2017 and that group has done a great job. Plus he’s been great on the recruiting trail. Why all the hate for Conn?
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Oculus Spirit [44289]
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Re: Why would Conn be let go??
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Jan 19, 2025, 11:43 AM
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Got to blame somebody…🤷♂️
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Paw Warrior [4652]
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Jan 19, 2025, 12:20 PM
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He’s been coaching safeties since 2017 and that group has done a great job. Plus he’s been great on the recruiting trail. Why all the hate for Conn?
The Safety play in 2024 was definitely Sub-Par!!! Sickens had a good year, but did struggle occasionally with Tackling! Barnes regressed this Year, often out of Position, taking Poor Angles and Crappy Tackling Technique!
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Paw Warrior [4652]
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Re: Why would Conn be let go??
Jan 19, 2025, 12:23 PM
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Mickens -not- Sickens
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exactly
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Jan 19, 2025, 1:01 PM
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Mickey Conns safety room is one of the most highly regarded rooms in the. action attracting big time recruit and big recruit just wanting to come play and development within that position room
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Game Changer [1802]
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Re: Why would Conn be let go??
Jan 19, 2025, 1:36 PM
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I disagree respectfully with both points.
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Jan 19, 2025, 11:44 AM
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maybe he will be named recruiting director instead of co-def coordinator but doesnt look like he is going anywhere. Lot of great players in all sports come out of grayson high school...
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Jan 19, 2025, 11:56 AM
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I sure would like to see Skalski with Dabo and Boulware. Hate seeing him on the sideline at OU.
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Gridiron Giant [15403]
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Oculus Spirit [44289]
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Re: I see mickey conn hanging...
Jan 19, 2025, 12:00 PM
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If BV does not improve we could possibly have both of them back in a couple of years.
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Campus Hero [13986]
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From his intructory press conference it sounding like Tom Allen has a prior good
Jan 19, 2025, 12:49 PM
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Relationship with Conn. So if someone is hoping he'll be fired they may be disappointed.
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Game Changer [1802]
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Re: From his intructory press conference it sounding like Tom Allen has a prior good
Jan 19, 2025, 2:02 PM
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Not hoping for him to be fired I just want him to improve. He's not good. Safeties are constantly out of position and a lot of misreads. Hopefully Allen can help him to improve.
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Re: From his intructory press conference it sounding like Tom Allen has a prior good
Jan 19, 2025, 2:47 PM
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I hope Allan has a lot of say so in the linebackers. Wes’s linebackers did not seem to improve and although I like Boulware he has no coaching experience.
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Paw Warrior [4652]
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Re: Bud, youre micro analyzing. Hes been safety coach since 2017.
Jan 19, 2025, 3:56 PM
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The safety group has played well over the years. That’s the body of work, not a snapshot for a few plays this year.
“A Few Plays This Year”? It happened consistently this year! In virtually all of the Games!
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Jan 19, 2025, 2:18 PM
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Dinosaur training techniques? Joey is one of the best to ever do his job, right there with the father of his profession, Boyd Eppley. I’ll take his ground-based, power principles over any of the clowns that are invading the strength and conditioning profession now.
I do think his heart issues a few years ago have hampered how hands-on he can be, along with how intense he can be.
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Re: I see mickey conn hanging...
Jan 19, 2025, 4:10 PM
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Mickey Conn is a very good recruiter & hands on coach too. Legendary high school coach too.
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Jan 19, 2025, 4:19 PM
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Are some of you forgetting our Special Team ranking?
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