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Tiger Titan [50636]
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I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:21 PM
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but I would encourage us to try to remain positive as there are a lot of reasons for optimism.
We have some really nice young talent on our team, and we will be successful in the portal again this year as well. I also like our recruiting class coming in.
We will be back in the NCAAs again in 2026. Go Tigers!
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LOL***
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:24 PM
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Don’t worry, Judge. I’ll fall for it again. I always do.
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:28 PM
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I’ll always support the Tigers in any sport they’re playing. I’ll leave it at that.
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Orange Immortal [66212]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 7:57 AM
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I'm the same here. I've been supporting the Tigers since the 1970s, but I'm not going to pretend it's always been pretty or is now.
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Ultimate Tiger [33657]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 6:53 PM
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Exactly right, Pig, we support the Tigers! Coaches, players, fans come and go, but Clemson is where our loyalty lies.
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Team Captain [473]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:30 PM
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Brad is a mullet!!! Thats all!!!
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Hall of Famer [8766]
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Sounds good
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:33 PM
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but I’m not getting my hopes up.
According the the Brownell Bros. we shouldn’t have lofty expectations. Bball will return to being the season between football and baseball
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Commissioner [1211]
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Re: Sounds good
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Mar 24, 2025, 12:50 PM
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Being honest...
Clemson gave Dabo his last raise based on the fact that he won it all and has proven he can get onto the national stage in the playoffs consistently. When it was time to hire a new baseball coach, Clemson went and got someone with the "potential" to make it to the CWS consistently and bring home a natty. (Clearly still at work in baseball.) Is that what they did when they hired Brad or gave him his contract extensions? Does he have the ability to bring home a natty? And if your answer is no then that tells you where Neff's expectations are in basketball. If you want deep runs consistently you have to have a coach that can get you there consistently, and imho that's not Brad. He's good for a couple of tournament wins every 4 to 6 years, but he's not going to get us to the biggest stage. If that is what we want (I do) we have to find the right guy. Just my opinion...
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National Champion [7817]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:35 PM
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I agree Judge. It's painful but this team just made the tournament 2 straight years which is uncommon. Hopefully making the tournament becomes the norm. Making a deep run in the tournament also becomes the norm.
Go Tigers.
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Team Captain [473]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 22, 2025, 11:42 PM
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Uncommon for only basketball because thats all we accept...would be a different story for the other two major sports!!!
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Athletic Dir [1119]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 7:15 PM
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Football - 10-4 and lost first round
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Basketball - 27-7 and lost first round
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Which is the bookend?
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110%er [3686]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 7:33 PM
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You have to do some serious mental gymnastics to compare basketball and football at Clemson University.
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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What mental gymnastics?
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Mar 23, 2025, 9:10 PM
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The previous poster posted records from the most recent seasons for both teams.
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All-Pro [778]
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Re: What mental gymnastics?
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Mar 24, 2025, 8:25 AM
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And now we are moving on to the gas lighting.
I really like Brownell and I want him to remain our coach, it’s the first sustainable basketball program in my life. But it is duplicitous to compare a single season recap like that when the metrics are apples and oranges. Winning percentages for elite basketball coaches is much higher that elite football coaches and there are way more opportunities for postseason play, for example there were more SEC teams in march madness than there were teams in the cfp.
Your constant gaslighting does more to frustrate program support than foster it. Maybe it’s time for a new approach?
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Legend [6828]
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Re: What mental gymnastics?
Mar 24, 2025, 5:04 PM
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Or Will Wade or the guy Miami hired etc.
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Orange Elite [5452]
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Mar 24, 2025, 2:28 PM
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Football accomplishments much higher as usual
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Head Coach [994]
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Re: What mental gymnastics?
Mar 24, 2025, 4:47 PM
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Love how the comparison forgot to mention one of those teams was a conference champion.
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Head Coach [994]
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Re: What mental gymnastics?
Mar 24, 2025, 4:47 PM
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Love how the comparison forgot to mention one of those teams was a conference champion.
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Clemson Icon [26197]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:38 PM
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After Morehead St. I called out CBB and was ready for change. He recovered last year and I drank the kool-aid this year. McNeese st type loss just seems to raise its head too often.
If Brad can get us to NCAA next year then I will give him major props because losing talent he is losing, not great bench and playing in a weak ACC, CBB has major hurdles. Hope he takes us there again but I couldn't buy the stock right now.
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Valley Legend [12303]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:44 PM
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Too many letdowns in BB for me to get on the Band Wagen. While I support the team I have no expectations of winning anything other than a game.
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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Many people at this time last year said we would be down this year
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:50 PM
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after losing PJ Hall and Joe Girard, and we set records this year for overall and ACC wins and returns to the Big Dance at a better seed than last year.
I believe we will be good again next year and hopefully our coaches and players learned a lot from our disappointing end to this season.
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Top TigerNet [29292]
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Re: Many people at this time last year said we would be down this year
Mar 23, 2025, 12:12 AM
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Agree, we'll be above average again and maybe make some noise in the accT and NCAAT. That's what Clemson has signed up for and we all should be happy with that decision.
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Paw Warrior [5044]
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Re: Many people at this time last year said we would be down this year
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Mar 23, 2025, 6:11 PM
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You are correct about that.
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Game Changer [1881]
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Orange Elite [5452]
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You didnt notice? We absolutely took a step backwards this year.
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Mar 24, 2025, 2:33 PM
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We were expecting to move forward and cement the program in success.
In stead we went 1-2 in the postseason and choked like has been most consistently seen in this tenure.
The basketball program took a step backwards and is in obvious decline.. The football team took a step forward this past season.
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Orange Immortal [64406]
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I hope you're right, and I don't really disagree that our future could be
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:46 PM
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bright. Still, our miserable, total collapse at the end of the season deserves criticism and questions.
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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It absolutely deserves criticism and warrants questions.
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Mar 23, 2025, 7:57 AM
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Nobody is more frustrated than Brad right now.
I believe we will ultimately be a better program because of this, just as we were after getting humiliated in the Orange Bowl against West Virginia.
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Legend [6665]
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Re: It absolutely deserves criticism and warrants questions.
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Mar 23, 2025, 10:10 AM
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Always got to get in a slam against our football program. That’s why you lose your relevance and invite td’s.
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:51 PM
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I love Clemson sports and went to school when Moose Campbell was there and played in the Pep Band. The ACC ruled college hoops at that time but this is a different age and the conference has failed to get a seat at the big boys table in the recent ESecPN remake of college sports. It is all about the money now driven by people tuning in. I will forever hope that Clemson will win an ACC/NCAA/NIT tournament at some time but at 65 years old it may never occur in my life time.
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TigerNet Immortal [176199]
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I for one, am excited.
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Mar 22, 2025, 10:55 PM
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Don’t have to look at all those dorks in chef hats on tv broadcasts anymore.
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Commissioner [1276]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 22, 2025, 10:55 PM
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We might have beaten 5 of the teams in the tournament with our play! Frustration doesn’t even describe it!
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Game Changer [1732]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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I hope you’re right JK. I respect your basketball input. I also expect you to be just as diplomatic if the Football team lays an egg in the post season
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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I was diplomatic when we got dominated by Texas.
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I’m not expecting people to be diplomatic right now though. We lost a game we shouldn’t have and played a horrible first half. That was unacceptable. Frustration and criticism are warranted.
I simply wanted to remind people that we still had a geese season and there are reasons for optimism.
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Paw Warrior [5044]
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Re: I was diplomatic when we got dominated by Texas.
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Mar 23, 2025, 6:19 PM
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You are such a clown.
We lost to texas, yes. But all in all, we played a decent game and Offense had a good game.
Quit trying to act like losing to Texas was a horrible loss (like the McNeese loss was for basketball team). Not even remotely close.
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Orange Elite [5452]
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Yep you can see straight through his bs.
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Really does need to grow up
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CU Medallion [18135]
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Paw Warrior [5044]
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Re: I was diplomatic when we got dominated by Texas.
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Mar 23, 2025, 8:24 PM
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Try google or write it down.
Now, please compare a game we were supposed to win big - against a smaller inferior team. Then compare an away game with a stronger team that we are underdogs to and yet our offense hurt pretty badly.
A better question is why you need to compare basketball and football, especially when football has 3 natties, many conf championships, made the playoffs (before it grew) multiple times, beat the big dogs (bama, Ohio state) multiple times.
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Orange Elite [5452]
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It was a terrible loss. We were expecting to win easily.***
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Orange Elite [5452]
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It was a terrible loss. We were expecting to win easily.***
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Clemson Conqueror [11395]
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Orange Blooded [2366]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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And here it is!Brad is great, deserves another year and he will show us all! Judge, heres the thing, yes we are all disappointed, for the players, the coaches, and our university! You continually come on here and disparage Dabo with your little punk barbs. Our recruiting sucks, his hires suck, the ACC sucks... All Dabo does is win championships, Brad zero! Now you want everyone on Tigernet to come together and sing we are family! Mayve you should lead instead of continually trying to pour gasoline on the fire. Be more like nctigs!
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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Dabo is supposed to win championships.
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He has far and away the most advantages of any football coach in the ACC. Unfortunately he has allowed the program to slip and we have been pretty bad when playing no conference games against power conferences lately. That’s unacceptable given our investment in football at Clemson, no matter how much Dabo dominates an ACC filled mostly filled with teams that care a lot less than we do about football.
As you know, that’s not the case with ACC basketball, nor does Clemson basketball have anywhere close to the advantages or support Clemson football does. Trying to equate the two situations is ludicrous.
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Orange Elite [5325]
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Re: Dabo is supposed to win championships.
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Why do you constantly dis Dabo and our football team when Brad falls far short (historically short - 13 points in a half is a record, though bad, in the shot clock era) ?
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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Why can't you acknowledge Dabo's failures recently?
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Mar 24, 2025, 1:32 PM
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We aren't supposed to get boatraced by Georgia and Texas. We aren't supposed to lose to Louisville. We aren't supposed to be 0-5 in our last 5 games against AP top 5 teams.
As for Brownell, we did fall short against McNeese. We should not have lost, period. But we lost by 2, which was the closest margin in the first round. Some of you are focusing on the first half as if that is the only part of the game that counted. That's weird.
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Orange Elite [5452]
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Yay a close margin loss against a 12 seed!
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Rationalize much?
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CU Guru [1574]
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Re: Why can't you acknowledge Dabo's failures recently?
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The first half of the game is what caused the loss.
There were also some basketball games that were bad losses this year, South Carolina and Georgia Tech.
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Commissioner [1269]
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Re: Dabo is supposed to win championships.
Mar 23, 2025, 7:26 PM
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ACC basketball programs other than Duke are all late to the party when it comes to spending.
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Ring of Honor [22194]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Lmfao you’re such a clown
What you’re saying isn’t wrong it’s just ####### hilarious knowing that if this was the football team your comment would be completely different 😂😂😂😂
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Paw Warrior [4795]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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100% we'd be hearing about how Dabos lost his edge and won't adapt and how isn't bigger than the Clemson brand.
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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I have been optimistic about our football team in 2025
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despite our poor performance against Texas in our last game.
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Orange Blooded [2259]
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Re: I have been optimistic about our football team in 2025
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Comparing Texas to McNeese St, is crazy.
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Ring of Honor [22194]
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Re: I have been optimistic about our football team in 2025
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It’s what he/she does best 😂😂
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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The point is that we were one and done in the postseason.
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And in the case of football, we didn't just barely lose, we lost by a significant margin. Plus we didn't have the season winning percentage we had in basketball.
The point is, most people here are optimistic about football but are negative about basketball, despite football underachieving the last few years and basketball overachieving, as well as our basketball team winning a higher percentage of its games recently. Fantastic logic there.
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Re: The point is that we were one and done in the postseason.
Mar 25, 2025, 1:37 AM
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You use “ACC sucks” in football and “historic season” in bball in a CLEAR waaaaaaaay down year for competition in the conference.
For the eleventieth time: be consistent
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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The ACC is subpar in both football and basketball.
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We still had a historic season based on multiple metrics, including ACC wins, ACC winning percentage, total wins, total winning percentage, rankings in AP/coaches polls, etc.
The ACC being down does not nullify the records we set this season.
You should not need to have this explained to you, but nonetheless, I hope that helps.
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Varsity [103]
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Re: The ACC is subpar in both football and basketball.
Mar 25, 2025, 5:07 PM
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I don’t need it explained at all. Yes, historic season by many metrics. And historically mind numbing losses as well. Your explanation for them: “teams lose in basketball”.
I’m not asking you to say it’s not a historic year. I’m asking you to be consistent in evaluating the two programs.
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Football season is in 160 days!!!!!***
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Judge Keller®
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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...that Brad got a mid-season contract extension then promptly lost the next game.
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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I will support our basketball team again next season. In spite of all the sniping you do at the football team between now and then. You’re a troll. Our basketball team is improving overall. The end of the season sucked. Next year is a new year.
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Totally agree Rhett. Not like I’m flipping my allegiance from Clemson. Was frustrating but hopefully we keep taking steps needed to be a team that is expected to not only make the NCAA’s but win at least a game or 2 every year. It is “GO TIGERS” all day, every day for myself!
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Clemson Icon [27756]
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I tend toward simplicity in these things, as our basketball team
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is not the first Clemson sports' team to lose a game most everyone expected us to win.
I think the fellows were looking past McNeese toward an expected Purdue win and got caught. The fact is every single team in every sport on every collegiate campus experiences the same, some often, most not, but assuredly, does.
I'm mighty proud of our accomplishment in wins this season, and although disappointed with our loss, hope Coach B will find success in the off season reloading our team.
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Paw Warrior [4823]
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Re: I tend toward simplicity in these things, as our basketball team
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This wasn't a loss.
This was the worst performance in NCAA history by our "best team ever"
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Valley Protector [1473]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Judge these folks have no clue. They should be N.C. State fans since they fire a coach that last year went to the FINAL FOUR! Coaches obviously forget how to coach from year to year. Stupid a... idiots.
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Hall of Famer [9001]
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The level of stupidty in your post is nearly inconceivable
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Mar 23, 2025, 7:28 AM
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And yet, somehow totally expected. Kind of the way Brad loses to Moorehead and Mcneese.
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 8:53 AM
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Player talent isn’t the problem.
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Orange Elite [5325]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 9:17 AM
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Indiana says “Whew” ….
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [100717]
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Bottom line is thet 95% if ALL coaches at Clemson since 1890s
Mar 23, 2025, 10:00 AM
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Have been inferior to or less than Dabo in their overall winning or consecutive win records nor made his $.
Saying, he is the “ultimate”
standard we cherish in a winning coach while BB is what most good coaches look like overall during their tenure..as it is in life with us.
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Head Coach [929]
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Danny bows to no one
Mar 23, 2025, 7:40 PM
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Try again
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 23, 2025, 7:27 PM
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Our best players might play in Europe at the next level. Some of the teams this weekend will have 2-3 NBA draft picks. To be 27-7 is a big accomplishment.
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Paw Warrior [5044]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 23, 2025, 8:26 PM
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Not playing our cupcake OOC and our conference trash.
Do you know how many away games we won vs division 1 schools?
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Game Changer [1916]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 11:26 PM
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We can put that in the big accomplishments case. A sticky note with 27-7 on it, I guess will work. No trophy though. But I didn’t expect one, so all is well.
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CU Guru [1509]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 24, 2025, 8:04 AM
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How about McNeese State? How many NBA players do they have?
I was trying to give Brad credit for recruiting. Guess he’s mediocre at that too.
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Commissioner [1231]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 23, 2025, 10:06 AM
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If Matt Painter can survive his criticism at Purdue than Brownell can as well. Painter lost to a 16 seed but came back the next year and made the Final 4.
Clemson's loss to McNeese was one of the worst performances in the NCAA tournament ever. It was historically horrendous, setting a record for least amount of points in a half.
Maybe it isn't Brownell's fault but if his team doesn't do something to erase the memory of this embarrassment, he'll never live this down.
Technically, one loss shouldn't take away from entire season's success. But, at this level and in the eyes of many, it's hard to see past the dissapointment. That's just the way it is.
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Orange Elite [5570]
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Oh my God. Seek help***
Mar 23, 2025, 10:17 AM
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Paw Master [16923]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 23, 2025, 10:48 AM
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What we want is consistency. What we have is consistent underachievement. Sans one three game win streak last March/April. We have 16 seasons that ended in frustration except maybe two. Two final top 25 rankings, one elite 8 run, and one sweet sixteen run out of 16 seasons isnt consistency. Well, it is but it’s he opposite spectrum we seek.
I agree that we have probably the best pool of talent we’ve ever had. Especially with Zachary coming back (his waiver is a shoe in). We have to find an Uber talented center and an assassin guard that can take over a game. Granted, Del can be that guy if he gets the playing time.
My concern is the lack of consistently being ready to play the big games. There are times when we seem ready to beat anyone. There are also times we couldn’t hit water if we fell out of a boat. Brownell seems to lack the timing or ability to use strategic timeouts to change a games flow. It’s like he accepts what’s happening and is afraid to make wholesale changes. He also seems to put weird combos of players on the floor when the previous five are red hot. Or scared to go deep into the bench to try to shake things up.
I don’t pretend to know everything wrong with he program but I’m positive Brownell isn’t the guy. He’s had 16 years. It’s been 16 years of pretty good to bad. I want Dook consistency. Dean Smith consistency. That’s not too much to ask. We have the money.
If the Brad can seriously turn it around, I am ok with that too. He’s run out of “one more year to figure it out” about 8-10 years ago. He has to show last year wasnt the outlier it appears to be. Sure, this regular season was great but the ACC was a hot dumpster fire. Louisville and Clemson showed that in the tourney. The SEC is getting a cold dose of reality as well after being dominated in the first two rounds. Both leagues have a long way to go to be the premiere league.
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Athletic Dir [1119]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 10:45 PM
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"I want Dook consistency. Dean Smith consistency. That’s not too much to ask."
You could write material for Nate Bargatze.
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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We have been very consistent lately in basketball.
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Mar 24, 2025, 1:30 PM
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Three consecutive 20+ win seasons, three seasons among the best teams in the ACC, and three seasons with some high quality wins.
I don't know what you expect, but the level of consistency we have had recently is unprecedented in men's basketball here.
I agree that this year's loss in the first round to McNeese State was very disappointing, but it doesn't undo the historic season we had with program records for overall wins and ACC wins.
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Paw Warrior [4813]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 10:50 AM
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Show the same enthusiasm for football and Baseball and we may one day take you seriously.
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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So you want me to act like I enjoy football and baseball as much as basketball?
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Mar 24, 2025, 1:36 PM
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That's weird.
Basketball is my favorite sport at Clemson, but I enjoy Clemson football a lot and attend or watch every game without fail. My football opinions are not any less valid because they don't align with your opinions or are not accompanied by some arbitrary level of enthusiasm you have assigned.
Baseball doesn't really interest me so I readily admit that I only watch Clemson baseball if we make the postseason.
If you don't want to take me seriously that's your problem, not mine.
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Orange Elite [5102]
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We're not all frustrated.
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Mar 23, 2025, 4:33 PM
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Peaking at the wrong time then skidding into the ACC tourney and getting bounced in the first round of the NCAA is pretty much what most of us have come to expect of the basketball program.
This expectation is probably rooted in the experience gleaned from all those seasons when the team never peaked to begin with, got bounced in the first round of the ACC, then lost to Wichita State at home in the NIT.
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CU Guru [1584]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 6:09 PM
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You’re a joke
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Athletic Dir [1119]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 6:58 PM
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Quoting PelePolo:
"Clemson's loss to McNeese was one of the worst performances in the NCAA tournament ever."
2007
UConn - 103
Chattanooga - 47
56 pt loss
2013
Syracuse - 81
Montana - 34
47 pt loss
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Villanova - 95
Oklahoma - 51
44 pt loss
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McNeese - 69
Clemson - 67
2 pt loss
Yep right up there with the beatdowns of all time.
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Commissioner [1231]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 23, 2025, 8:06 PM
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Yeah I stand by what I said.
McNeese was garbage... Clemson slept walk through the first half and for much of the game competed at 10-20% of their ability. It was the worst performance. I'm embarrassed. They should be embarrassed. You should be embarrassed for even trying to make an excuse for that happened out there on that floor.
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Athletic Dir [1119]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 23, 2025, 9:08 PM
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We lost by TWO points to a bunch of D1 transfers from Syracuse, Ole Miss and St Louis. They lost to Bama by 8. I watched the whole game which involved us scoring FIFTY FOUR points in the 2nd half. They never quit and almost pulled it out while you were watching Gamecock Football with Coach Shane Beamer on DVR.
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Commissioner [1231]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Furthermore, are you trying to insinuate that, "well, after least we are better than Montana and Chattanooga" ?
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Paw Warrior [5044]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 23, 2025, 8:28 PM
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How funny.
You compare a 5 losing to McNeese to a 1 playing a 16.
13 points.
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Rival Killer [2890]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 8:48 PM
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Purnell once lost to a 12 seed too, but you praise him without a single tournament win, why? Consistency shows character. Thank you.
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Athletic Dir [1119]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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No comparisons to any other games. He said worst performance ever. Closest game of the first 32 games.We lost by two points and all you can do is keep vomiting up the one half of the game.
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CU Medallion [18435]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 24, 2025, 9:16 AM
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Because it was a historically putrid first half performance and if coach had done anything to narrow the gap - anything at all- we win the game walking away in the second half.
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Head Coach [929]
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Nah, fat lazy Brad got paid and retreated to his cave
Mar 23, 2025, 7:38 PM
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Of below average
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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LOL at below average.***
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Ring of Honor [22707]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 7:39 PM
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Portal will definitely be the difference in making or missing the big dance next year. Hopefully, we continue to have success filling out a capable roster.
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Game Changer [1916]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 24, 2025, 1:24 PM
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I don’t think proficiency in the portal by itself is enough to move the program forward. If you allow that Coach B is at that point (though I’m not convinced he’s exactly knocking it out of the park in that department consistently), I still don’t see the player development and coaching to elevate the program beyond its historical mediocrity.
With this latest postseason exclamation point, it’s difficult to see a positive trajectory.
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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You and others keep mentioning mediocrity.
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Mar 24, 2025, 1:39 PM
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Our men's basketball program has not been mediocre in quite some time.
You do know that we have won 20+ games and been among the best teams in the ACC the last few years, right?
I guess I can forgive you guys though, you also keep referencing our football program being elite and that was a while ago as well.
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Orange Elite [5452]
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We exceeded expectations once in 15 years. We failed to meet them the other 14.***
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
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Mar 23, 2025, 11:00 PM
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but I would encourage us to try to remain positive as there are a lot of reasons for optimism.
We have some really nice young talent on our team, and we will be successful in the portal again this year as well. I also like our recruiting class coming in.
We will be back in the NCAAs again in 2026. Go Tigers!
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All-In [10210]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 23, 2025, 11:00 PM
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but I would encourage us to try to remain positive as there are a lot of reasons for optimism.
We have some really nice young talent on our team, and we will be successful in the portal again this year as well. I also like our recruiting class coming in.
We will be back in the NCAAs again in 2026. Go Tigers!
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Orange Blooded [2509]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 24, 2025, 6:00 AM
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To quote a wise man from York. You are such a “goober”. lol @ your dumb a$$
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Orange Blooded [2509]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 24, 2025, 7:41 AM
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I’m not. Screw basketball. lol
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Legend [6874]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 24, 2025, 9:49 AM
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It is completely understandable that folks are frustrated. You cant blame them, this was our best team ever in an ACC that has never been weaker.
Brad has never won more than 1 game in the ACC Tournament.
Brad has only won more than 1 game in the post-season 3 times, 2014 NIT, 2018 NCAA and 2024 NCAA
That doesn't seem like there is much there to foster a belief that he knows what it takes to get in done in the post-season, even as much as we want to believe. Yes I know "Elite 8", but that is looking like the exception at this point. We should be pointing to the "rule" not the exception.
Regular season stats are great, they get us to the post-season. As a fan I want more, I think we deserve more and I think the AD has given plenty of support to get us that success. Its time for Brad to deliver on that.
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All-In [10411]
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See, with other programs, the whole point of
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Mar 24, 2025, 11:14 AM
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making it to the NCAAs is to WIN and ADVANCE. Teams/Schools like Clemson should not be content with just making it to the dance. We should want to at least get to the Sweet 16. And in the ACCs, we should have the goal of making it to the final, for a change.
Making it to the NCAAs is nice, but 68 schools do that, so the bar isn't super high. Let's actually WIN some and make some progress and not reward a coach for "potential" - would actually like to see some RESULTS rewarded for a change.
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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So now we are disappointed if we don't make the Sweet 16?
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Mar 24, 2025, 1:41 PM
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My how the goalposts have been moved.
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All-In [10411]
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Not disappointed - no. Talking about goals.
Mar 24, 2025, 1:55 PM
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And my question is valid - why is our goal merely to make the tournament? Something that 68 teams can currently do? Why is our goal not higher? Why are we content merely to make the tournament?
Everyone knows that you're not always going to meet your goal in sports. But if you don't set the goal, you sure won't meet it. If you're content with what I'd call mediocrity - merely making the tournament - then where's that push to go farther and be better?
That's not too undifferent from saying that football is happy to make a bowl game. Everyone knows our goal with football is a conference championship and subsequently the playoffs. I think softball and baseball would say that their goal is to contend for a conference title and make the CWS - not merely the NCAA tourney. Why is basketball the only sport that seems content to just "be there" and not excel there?
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Tiger Titan [50636]
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Our goal has been to make the tournament since it hasn't been done much
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Mar 25, 2025, 1:30 PM
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at Clemson.
Making the tournament two years in a row has only happened twice in program history, in the mid-late 90s and in the mid-late 00s. So step one is making it more consistently.
Step two is obviously to win some games and advance. That was our goal this year and we did not do it.
Who said that we should be okay just making the tournament? No one involved with our program has said that.
I would push back against the notion that making the tournament is mediocrity. You have to be much better than mediocre to get an at-large bid.
We have shown over the last few years that we are one of the best ACC teams, so the goal is to compete for an ACC championship as well.
While competing for an ACC championship, making the NCAA Tournament every year, and ideally winning some games there are goals, I do not think we are to the point of those being expectations. Therefore, this year should not be viewed as a disappointing one, although the last game certainly was.
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Legend [6874]
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Asst Coach [863]
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Mar 24, 2025, 2:34 PM
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lol, wow
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Associate AD [1039]
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Mar 24, 2025, 2:47 PM
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but I would encourage us to try to remain positive as there are a lot of reasons for optimism.
We have some really nice young talent on our team, and we will be successful in the portal again this year as well. I also like our recruiting class coming in.
We will be back in the NCAAs again in 2026. Go Tigers!
Did that young talent include Del Jones?
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Legend [6828]
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Re: I know we are all frustrated
Mar 24, 2025, 5:01 PM
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Judge, did you coach that game against McNeese State. I’m sure the Brad you talk about did not coach that one. Failure to have his players on the road ready to play I’m sure was not Brad’s coaching😂
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Mar 25, 2025, 1:28 AM
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Be consistent. Remain positive on football. I know it’s frustrating to you that Dabo and the fb team only made it into the 12 team playoff, but there is a lot of young talent on the team. I know, I know: the ACC sucked in fb last year and the ACC in basketball was fantastic.
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