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Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 8:38 AM
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I've always believed you "get more flys with honey than vinegar" and we are seeing that come to life at USCjr. Since being hired as our Head Coach, Dabo has been called many things by the coots, all negative. Their "Hall Of Fame" coach was going to lead them to greatness and championships and as we all know, that hasn't happened. Honestly, Dabo has gone about the business of creating a "family" atmosphere here at Clemson that places an emphasis on being a good man first and a good athlete second and parents and coaches of these young prospects get that loud and clear. Another young man, Kyle Davis, has decided he wants to look elsewhere for his college years. This is more than a fluke, it's a pattern. All of the coots can rationalize and dismiss this obvious trend but it's got to be alarming. At the core of recruiting is an athlete commits to a school first and a coach second. The coots have had it all wrong for a while, since Holtz and now with OBS, they have tried to sell superior coaching first and their university second. Maybe since their university is such a tough sell, selling your prospective recruits on coaches "past their prime" is all they have? My question to them is how does our head "cheerleader" look to you now?
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Tweet That !!***
May 19, 2015, 8:46 AM
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Re: Tweet That !!***
May 19, 2015, 8:55 AM
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I wonder if they understand that it may just be in their best interests to start the coaching search anew. Not because the current JC has plainly stated his disinterest in staying beyond 2 to 3 years (his own claim) , but simply because the trend that their football program is on now is downward. Wins down and losses up in 2014 , defensive performance way down and with tje recruits deciding to look elsewhere (or worse ) one would have to be a sincere fool to poke the head into the sand hills and say that everything were going to be alright . Dabo had a plan and even when he was losing to Spurrier his order and tenacity kept him winning and kept this vision on track. Clemson is in a much , much better place under Swinney than the Coots are under Spurlid , and it really seems to be a widening gap. If they don't do something drastic soon , might end up (aghast !) returning to the cellar with the likes of Memphis and UTEP to keep them company in their CFB purgatory.
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Re: Tweet That !!***
May 19, 2015, 9:08 AM
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The facts are, Dabo is 1-5 since he was named Head Coach. Over the last 5 years, depending on what site you follow, Carolina's avg recruiting class ranking is between 16-18. Clemson's is 13-15. Who knows who will turn into great players. Who would have thought the great Boyd/Watkins duo would get crushed everytime they played Carolina? We'll see...as for know, Dabo is still 1-5. Now get back on the tugboat.
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Hold on to that Blue
May 19, 2015, 9:27 AM
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Glad you're ignorant enough to post that as I've been telling very single Coot I know that after 100 plus years it's all you have and that Slurrier knows the IQ of his fanbase, which is why he continues to bring it up. After all, at 1-21, Lou convinced the ignorant lot that you're part of that they'd win any other conference. In spite of a 100 year of history that proves different . Keep it up, your grandchildren will be telling their grandchildren about the Streak and the Glory Years of when the Coots beat the only BCS team ever from the State of SC.
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you should really employ a math tutor......
May 19, 2015, 9:53 AM
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Coach Swinney has beaten your chickens TWICE as Clemson HC
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You are wrong on pretty much everything you said
May 19, 2015, 9:55 AM
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First, Dabo is 2-5 against the dirt peckers. Second, our average rank in recruiting is 11, and we have either moved up or stayed the same every year. This last year we were 9 places better than we were in 14 (13th to 4th). You have an average rank of 17.5 over the last four years and those classes have been 19, 16, 16, and 19. You have now started the trend downward. This year, even though we have just started recruiting, we are ranked in the top 10 and the chickens are sandwiched between Western Michigan and Louisiana Tech at 39.
I will not even get in to the story about how many folks are jumping ship over there, and just the negative feel about football in general in cootlumbia.
Right now, you are in denial. Good news is, you may go .500 this year, which is better than what you have historically been.
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Don't forget, those recruiting class rankings
May 19, 2015, 10:06 AM
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are based on those that sign a LOI in Feb, not on the 5-10 that don't qualify for them each year in August. Just on that fact alone, we've OUTCLASSED them the last 3 years.
Their recruiting is far worse than it looks on paper.
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Re: Don't forget, those recruiting class rankings
Jun 7, 2015, 9:21 AM
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There you go bringing up the truth. They don't like the whole story, only their few good parts.
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Re: You are wrong on pretty much everything you said
May 19, 2015, 10:38 AM
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I'm guessing you're probably using a different recruiting ranking than he was. Which would explain the difference in the average.
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Re: You are wrong on pretty much everything you said
Jun 3, 2015, 11:19 AM
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You can't read real well can you?
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Re: You are wrong on pretty much everything you said
May 19, 2015, 10:40 AM
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What they are doing is exactly what they were accusing us of doing when they declared history was history and it belonged in the past. What was happening now that counts above all else they were saying, and listen to what they are using now. We are 5-1 over you, get the FK real coots. The score is 1-0 right now. If you want to count the past, it's 66 Clemson and 42 coots, and that is the true story. We will hit 70 before coots get to 43, end of story!!!
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Re: You are wrong on pretty much everything you said
May 19, 2015, 10:43 AM
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South Carolina's winning % all time vs Clemson is better than your CURRENT coach vs Carolina. Again, scoreboard says Dabo is 1-5.
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Spurrier is 6-7 vs Clemson all time.***
May 19, 2015, 10:51 AM
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Re: Spurrier is 6-7 vs Clemson all time.***
May 19, 2015, 10:53 AM
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He won in '89 at Duke...that's at least 7
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Er, 1 + 5 equals 6, high math for a coot, I know, but true
May 20, 2015, 12:43 PM
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nevertheless.
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Re: You are wrong on pretty much everything you said
May 19, 2015, 12:55 PM
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Clemson's winning % all time vs South Carolina is better than you CURRENT coach vs. Clemson. Again, scoreboard says 35-17
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According to the coot logic that has been preached
Jun 5, 2015, 4:56 PM
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for the last few years, the past doesn't count. We are 1-0, or else ALL history is included. You can't pick and choose history.
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Re: You are wrong on pretty much everything you said
Jun 7, 2015, 10:28 AM
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Dabo has two wins and you know it. You don't count it because he was "Interim" head coach. Dabo lead the team that whipped those coots and that is a further embarrassment for you and your school. An interim head coach that was a wide receivers coach beat your hero in his first try. In three more years it will be 5 - 5 and your coach will be retired playing golf in Augusta. Your program will be back to the dump it has been throughout it's history. And there will be no sign of Blue.
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Re: You are wrong on pretty much everything you said
Jun 7, 2015, 9:25 AM
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I imagine you are pretty accurate on that, and let them lose again this year (which is going to happen, unless the rest of their conference is in worse shape than I believe they are), and Spurlid will hit the road, throwing them into another many year tail spin. They know it, too. Fun ahead, guys!
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Re: Tweet That !!***
May 19, 2015, 11:53 AM
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Thats funny. Those 16-18 ranked classes arent hangin around. I love how you dismiss 2008 when Dabo spanked spurlids ###...imagine that a young greenhorn kicking grandpas ###...now go tell your wife leadcoot to scramble up some eggs. She can start with the ones on your face.
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Re: Tweet That !!***
May 19, 2015, 12:34 PM
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Do you know why that truly is? It is actually much tougher to get into an ACC school than an SEC school. So what Clemson has to do is recruit student first, athlete second. Which what makes this rivalry record so interesting. Knowing that you could recruit any caliber player without having to sacrifice the 'student' portion of the equation, Clemson still owns the rivalry series. And in your world where the last six years, South Carolina reign 'supreme,' the next six will be what South Carolina fans are use to seeing. Packing Williams-Brice to watch the mediocre Gamecocks football team, which means loses to Georgia, Clemson, LSU, MIZZOU, Tennessee, lose close to the real Carolina, narrowly escape a Kentucky or Vandy (you won't win both), and making the Citadel and Furman look good for three quarters. All the while, the 'Cheerleader' will be working on more championships. It takes examining history to understand history.....and all you and your faithful have is something I call tunnel vision. You can only see the five year streak where we at Clemson actually see the bigger picture. 35-17 was just a small sample taste of what South Carolina will experience the next three years. Get ready for the Orange Crush!!!
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2-5, now get back to the basement of college football...***
May 19, 2015, 1:34 PM
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As coots like to say, "Ancient History."***
Jun 3, 2015, 11:39 AM
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As coots like to say, "Ancient History."***
Jun 3, 2015, 11:40 AM
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Re: Tweet That !!***
Jun 5, 2015, 8:12 PM
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And Paybacks Hell. Last year was only the beginning of what is to come.
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Re: Tweet That !!***
Jun 5, 2015, 9:14 PM
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Actually Memphis finished in the top 25 last year
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 8:48 AM
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To the coot faithful he looks just fine. To so many others, and that number seems to be growing rapidly, the luster of OBS has left the building.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 8:49 AM
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He's still 1-5 vs Carolina. Head Cheerleader or not, that's his record.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 8:50 AM
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Try again, Math Wizard....you can use your toes, this time, if you need....
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See what he ends up at?
May 19, 2015, 8:51 AM
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I hope you are still posting in 6 years after the streak we are about to go on.
I suppose Spurrier will be gone by then.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 8:51 AM
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What kind of record does the OBS have in BCS bowls? Wait wut
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Re: Yet another de-commit
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don't believe you are correct sir, but if saying that makes you feel a little better about your program falling apart then so be it HAHAHAHA!! I think Clemson fans are enjoying watching you guys have a couple good years (and nothing but wins against us to show for it) and actually think you are a great program, only to fall even harder on your face... things are returning back to normal and chickens like yourself see it...if not you are just plain stupid lol
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Little Boy Blue
May 19, 2015, 9:05 AM
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I'll keep our "Cheerleader"!!! I hope that Slurrier stays at USuC 'til he is 90. Slurrier had his chance to win it all in 2012 an d 2013. Slurrier had the best talent at USuC in a generation and his only claim to fame is he beat a "Cheerleader". That is all the you keep talking about.
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Not just in a generation.......
May 19, 2015, 10:09 AM
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That was the best team South Carolina has EVER put together. When people talk about their "Golden era", South Carolina just had theirs. With 0 championships from it.
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Chilly-Dip
May 20, 2015, 10:45 AM
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got a mulligan on deck....
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Re: Yet another de-commit
Jun 5, 2015, 4:27 PM
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Thanks for the chuckle . That's pretty discusting . I wonder if he threw his visor ?
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He's practicing chipping for the "cornbread open"
Jun 6, 2015, 7:45 PM
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down in Gainesville that he will be attending shortly after his retirement from scar in November. I see him gone after this year. He's not gonna hang around and sort out the mess that is USuC football. He'll blame others and then leave. He's that kind of man.
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Remember when the coots said all we did was talk about history?***
May 19, 2015, 9:45 AM
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lol***
May 19, 2015, 9:46 AM
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 11:55 AM
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scar dropping recruits like flies. lol still butthurt i see
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Mods, please take the blue trash out...
May 19, 2015, 12:08 PM
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The schtick and math stinks like chicken #####!
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The guy even gives coots a bad name...
Jun 3, 2015, 9:22 PM
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probably been banned from fgf too...
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Re: Yet another de-commit
Jun 4, 2015, 1:34 AM
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You freaking Idiot, its 2-5!!! Dumb A$$ coots can't count to 10, even with using their fingers.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 9:09 AM
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What are you trying to argue? You're all over the place with this post.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 9:13 AM
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Don't you coots have grass to cut?
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He said your school sux
May 19, 2015, 9:19 AM
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and that ,without Legends that made their mark somewhere else there to recruit, your school attracts no one on it's own. Hence the De Cootments when Legend said he wouldn't be there long.I'll go one step further in saying, the coaching experiment is over. After 2 HOF coaches have proven that it all can never be won there, no coach that already has a rep will come. From now on USuC will be more like Vandy and Kentucky, if and I mean if they are lucky enough to hire an up and comer, he'll just use USuC as a springboard to a BETTER job.
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Re: He said your school sux
May 19, 2015, 9:24 AM
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"Done nothing"? When's the last time Clemson finished in the top 10 three years in a row? When's the last time they finished in the top 5?
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Hold onto that Blue,it's over***
May 19, 2015, 9:28 AM
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Re: He said your school sux
May 19, 2015, 11:57 AM
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whens the last time you got more than a fifth place ring...BTW Cam and DW say hello
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Re: He said your school sux
May 20, 2015, 4:35 PM
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Back to giving history lessons again. And if you really believe you coots were a true #4 ranked team, you are a bigger idiot than most already believe you are. #4 my A$$, #4 by default bc esecpn had no other esecpn team to put there bc the better teams in the sec had just lost to a better team. That's right, #4 by default only.
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Re: He said your school sux
Jun 3, 2015, 9:00 PM
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Well, we did finish # 1 one time. When is the last time your FB program did that? Granted you have a couple of baseball, and maybe one for cleaning out the stables or women's softball or whatever (sorry if I can't remember, but really, not another living soul outside usuc can either). You really don't want to argue FB history, do you? History doesn't start and stop in the last 6 years. Really the SECheat should never lose a NC in anything athletic. You spend the most $, you have the most NCAA infractions, your budgets for Coaches, staff, facilities and players is the most. When you don't win, you should fire somebody. There really is no valid excuse. It's not like the players were busy studying.
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Re: He said your school sux
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If they use usuc as a spring board, they are desperate to move up bc that spring board has proven it will break under the weight of legends. Just imagine what will happen under the weight of a rudy poop trying to get to the next best job. They would end back down to HS coaching!!!
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 9:22 AM
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Don't try to sell recruits on things that can change like coaching and conference perception. Those are shaky foundations which are out of your control. Because when those things change you get a another decommit like you've been seeing a lot lately. Try to sell to your recruits your school first.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 9:28 AM
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Do you honestly believe Dabo wouldn't be recruiting as well if he was at NC State or any other college?
Clemson is recruiting well because of Dabo and the staff, it isn't recruiting well because of Clemson. He's one of the best recruiters in all of football.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 9:32 AM
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keep dreaming that coot. it is mostly staff but if you dont think "clemson" recruits itself you are truly a bigger moron than even i thought.
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Frankly....it's a combination of the two....
May 19, 2015, 9:32 AM
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but again, I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
It's just like Dabo always says, he doesn't have to sell Clemson. Clemson sells itself.
You NEVER hear ANYONE say that about the University of Second Choice.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 19, 2015, 10:00 AM
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You are confusing recruiting abilities with selling, "play for me the head coach". Yes I believe Dabo is a talented recruiter, but would have a difficult time if he were at school with little to no winning tradition such as your school. Dabo isn't selling himself but is selling the school. We have lots of natural advantages you don't have and it makes it easy for him to get recruits to commit and stay committed.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 20, 2015, 8:21 AM
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Well it wasn't that long ago that coot nation was saying that Dabo was a Joke, and he was nothing but vacuum cleaner salesman, and an embarrassment to Clemson and Clemson FB. And that with Dabo as HC, Clemson would never win another game against Slurrier. Coot nation loved the HC hire of Dabo and hoped that Clemson would keep Dabo forever. Now coots are saying that Dabo and the staff he put together as Clemson's HC are some of the best recruiters in the nation. Y'all can't seem to get it right when it comes to Dabo and his staff I guess. Maybe what y'all were saying about Dabo, is what the HC for the gamecocks actually turned out being, a Joke and an embarrassment to coot nation and usuc. If you were to ask Clemson nation what they feel about the Clemson HC hire and the usuc HC hire. Most would say that Dabo turned out to be a gold mine, and the coot HC hire turned out to be a 100 proof pile of dung!!!
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 20, 2015, 3:41 PM
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Here is the irony in your statement:
The same guy that is the coach of South Carolina was actually the head coach at a true higher education school called...Duke. You know, that very dominant basketball school in the basketball conference? In 1989, that same coach won a conference championship at Duke. DUKE!!!
So to say Dabo could recruit that way at NC State? Possibly. But he's at Clemson. Also, he isn't doing it alone. His staff (mostly Clemson alums, two played WR the year of the epic "Touchdown Clemson" 2003 beatdown of South Carolina in Williams-Brice) are outstanding recruiters. So how come Spurrier couldn't deliver the same results at South Carolina that he did at DUKE, aka "the Basketball school?"
I think the world of Dabo. But I would say Clemson created a high reputation for football long before Dabo stepped foot on campus. Clemson is charged with a high level of education on a campus with a beautiful backdrop for students to call home for four to five years. Atmosphere plays a big role in a student's decision to attend a school and it should. Not just the name of a coach.....
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 20, 2015, 3:46 PM
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Duke has the luxury of being in the ACC. It was an even easier ACC in the 80s before FSU joined.
Hard to argue we wouldn't have won the ACC in 2011 if we were in the ACC.
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More crap from U
May 20, 2015, 4:38 PM
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You couldn't win it that much when you were in it(ONLY ONCE), but in make believe you win it every year ? Dumba$$ In 2011 U lost to 2 UNRANKED teams. A 3 win Tennessee team kept you guys out of a BCS game. Coots be funny in their own minds.
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Re: More crap from U
May 20, 2015, 4:42 PM
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I'm not sure what us being bad before 1971 has to do with the 2011?
We were significantly better than the team who won the ACC in 2011. Do you disagree?
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 20, 2015, 4:46 PM
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Again IRONY!!!
In a "better conference," you should get better caliber players. And with a legendary name like Spurrier, South Carolina should recruit the talent it takes to win at least ONE conference championship (a la Dabo Swinney at Clemson) And even in the ACC, (which South Carolina was apart of until 1991), South Carolina only won ONE championship and none of us was around to see it, therefore it really didn't happen. Oh wait, that IS the South Carolina fan's argument.
Duke wasn't the class of the ACC in the 80's and yet won a championship with the same coach at your school. Meaning that when South Carolina WAS the class of your conference (as you ALL would think) he couldn't muster one conference championship.....NOT ONE!!! And in the one you did play in, someone dropped 63 on you that was a Tiger as well (Auburn - 2009).
As a matter of fact, this is the second time South Carolina ran away having to play FSU (again in scheduling this up coming season.)
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 20, 2015, 4:49 PM
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We left the ACC in 1970. Might want to recheck your facts.
Kind of defeats the purpose of having a discussion if you're just making up your own reality.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 20, 2015, 5:10 PM
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You are right! In 1971, you cried about it not being fair and ran away and no one wanted you until 1983 in the Metro-something another conference (which you weren't good enough to win) and the SEC in 1992 (which you aren't relevant unless Georgia, Tennessee and Florida all are tanking, which was the case in 2009 and still aren't good enough to compete in with MIZZOU appearing in the SEC championship game the past two years). Which in that time STILL could not recruit good enough players to win a national championship (which independent schools Miami and Notre Dame did). Irony of you recruitment statement gets even sweeter!!!
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 20, 2015, 6:00 PM
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Lol thats what you coots live by. Your own reality... I mean fantasy
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Re: Yet another de-commit
Jun 3, 2015, 11:23 AM
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And you still played mostly ACC school after you left! How'd that work out for you?
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Nobody here would expect YOU to understand it ....
May 19, 2015, 9:28 AM
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even though it's abundantly clear.
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Your problem is obvious***
May 19, 2015, 9:29 AM
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and....all these recruits text, skype and tweet each other
May 19, 2015, 9:34 AM
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more now than ever before! Don't you think if a school/coach gets a bad name/reputation that it won't spread like wildfire in the inner circle. I believe that is part of what is happening.
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True ^^^^***
May 19, 2015, 9:36 AM
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Yea....
May 19, 2015, 9:43 AM
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the fact that you head coach is a drunken mouthy imbecile has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Your problem is obvious !!!
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Re: Yea....
May 19, 2015, 9:44 AM
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It cracks me up that you don't realize how delusional you are biggie.
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It cracks me up....
May 19, 2015, 9:49 AM
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how ironic and hypocritical your post is particularly considering that you are widely regarded as the most deluded and ignorant Coot poster in TigerNet history.
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Re: It cracks me up....
May 19, 2015, 10:35 AM
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I would imagine most sane people look delusional when you are looking through your orange tinted glasses
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Speaking of delusional...
May 19, 2015, 10:41 AM
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10. South Carolina Football Fans:
The Gamecocks’ fans see their beloved program as one of the best in the SEC. But in order to be the best, you do have to win some big bowl games, right? Sure the Gamecocks have won three consecutive postseason games, but not once in the entire 16-year era did they even play in a BCS contest. Furthermore, in the 22 years that SC has played in the SEC, they’ve finished with a losing record in-conference 12 times. It’s only been the last three seasons, which all featured 11 wins, that South Carolina has put up double-digit victories since moving conferences.
Many South Carolina fans consider the Gamecocks an elite program but it is far, far too premature to put them in that category. They have had some big personalities come through Columbia lately, including the No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft Jadeveon Clowney and their current coach Steve Spurrier. The attention that these personalities have received, much of it off the field, has helped build South Carolina fan’s delusion considerably.
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What's funny is that the nine teams above them actually...
May 20, 2015, 9:27 AM
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have a basis for their delusion!!!!!!!!!!
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Bless your pitiful little #### loving heart.
May 19, 2015, 11:23 AM
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Run along back to your village now. I'm sure FGF is missing its idiot.
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Most of your fanbase is delusional. What exactly does USuC
May 19, 2015, 9:51 AM
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have going for it right now? I know Blowboy is clinging to the 1 and 5 record against Dabo. Is that all? Is that really what you're selling recruits on because I don't see anything else that would be remotely appealing as a potential recruit. Pathetic...
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Facts will only confuse him....
May 19, 2015, 9:55 AM
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or be completely dismissed as nothing more than anti-Capon rhetoric.
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Re: and....all these recruits text, skype and tweet each other
May 19, 2015, 9:47 AM
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Or...he looked at USUC's schedule for THIS YEAR and saw 4-8 on the horizon (if you manage to beat UK and UNC). If USUC loses their first game, they might go 2-10. Even YOUNG players can see the writing on the USUC wall.
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Re: and....all these recruits text, skype and tweet each other
May 19, 2015, 10:13 AM
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Nope. Look at what Arden Key said when he decommitted from you and went with LSU.
“My decision did not have anything to do with coaches or how the season went,” Key said. “It’s just something that it’s getting closer to Signing Day and I want to make sure I make the right decision.”
He also stated (paraphrasing) he had some friends at USuC and they told him to stay away so yes they do talk and it has damaged you!
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Re: and....all these recruits text, skype and tweet each other
May 19, 2015, 10:22 AM
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You are what the scoreboard says you are and Dabo is 1-5. You can talk how great the recruiting classes are, how great the stadium is, how awesome the fight song is, how dumb Spurrier is...he's still 1-5 vs Carolina.
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Hold onto that Blue y'all been passed by.
May 19, 2015, 10:36 AM
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Maybe Slurrier will quit soon where all Y'all Coots can cling to his record against Dabo as the BEST Coot accomplishment in over 100 years.
To the other TNeters, Blue's post just prove how pathetic that fanbase really is and that they know IT'S OVER!!!
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Re: Hold onto that Blue y'all been passed by.
May 19, 2015, 10:41 AM
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The best accomplishment was being the fourth best team in the country in 2014.
Not sure why you guys think everything has to revolve around you.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 11:19 AM
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At time that can only be described as the pinnacle of Capon football, yet you have no conference championships or BCS Bowl appearances.
The ONLY thing of note that you accomplished during that time was winning five straight against Clemson and that thing to which your moronic fan base clings to the most has come to a screeching halt as the realization has set-in that the loss to Clemson last November was not the end of a streak but the beginning of one.
It sure must suck to be you.
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to be fair,for them that is equal to a National Championship***
May 19, 2015, 11:26 AM
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 11:36 AM
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Finishing as the fourth best team in the country is a much greater accomplishment than a conference championship or bcs bowl.
Clemson has only finished in the top 5 once in your history. It isn't exactly something easy to do.
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We have a National Championship to show for ours....
May 19, 2015, 11:45 AM
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What do you have again !?!?!
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Re: We have a National Championship to show for ours....
May 19, 2015, 11:58 AM
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Obviously your national championship is better than fourth place.
That doesn't change our 2014 season would be the second best year in your program history.
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Re: We have a National Championship to show for ours....
May 19, 2015, 11:58 AM
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2013*
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Re: We have a National Championship to show for ours....
May 20, 2015, 10:54 AM
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Equestrian?????
So y'all letter horses????
Wait, wut??????
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 12:40 PM
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Im sure even the most loyal fans will admit the year the yardbirds finished fourth in the final rankings they werent the fourth best team.
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 12:44 PM
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It doesn't work that way. South Carolina finished as the fourth ranked team in the country and therefore were the fourth best team in the country.
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 12:49 PM
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But that is past history and will never happen again. But on the other hand Clemson finished #1 and there is a good chance that will happen again.
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 12:58 PM
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Unfortunately it sounds like although you finished number one, you guys were the best team in the country.
Bummer.
I disagree but apparently I'm an idiot so we have to to with what Biggie says so you guys weren't the best team
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 1:05 PM
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You lost me with that.
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 1:09 PM
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The Coots had some good teams I will give you that. But it's all about the hardware during that span Clemson won the Atlantic 2 times, won the ACC and won a BCS bowl. The glory years for the Coots will be going 2-5 vs Clemson. Also Clemson is still going in the right direction and your Coots seem to be a dumpster fire getting ready to burn hot. Also our last 3 bowl WINs are vs LSU, OHIO ST and OK. That right there is very impressive. All I can say is it's good to be a Tiger!
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 1:24 PM
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Some team won the division 3 national championship. Do you think they were better than Clemson last year?
I don't. And it seems foolish to argue their trophy made them better than you.
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 1:28 PM
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Just admit that the glory years for SC is beating Clemson. I mean that's a great accomplishment you should be proud
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Uhhhh...aboslutely not.....
May 19, 2015, 12:50 PM
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It simply means you finished 4th in the polls nothin morenothing less.
As much as you wish it did, it certainly does not mean you were the 4th best team in the country.
More grandiose delusions from Clueless09. Now there's a real shocker.
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 12:50 PM
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Yall didnt even play for the conference title that year. Lost to two unranked teams . Yall defaulted to that position when better teams lost in better bowl games
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 19, 2015, 12:54 PM
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Don't get "history" and "program" confused. Tennessee, Miami, Nebraska all have great histories, but their programs aren't what they used to be. Programs are about what you've done recently, how you've recruited, support, facilities, head coach, etc. And right now Carolina's program is very good.
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Going 7 - 6 and all the decootmitments says otherwise....
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What was it you said earlier? You are what your record says you are.
$CU was 7 - 6 and is currently staring straight down the barrel at another 6 -6 season if not worse.
To even remotely suggest that right now $CU's program is very good is nothing more than unsubstantiated rhetoric, wishful thinking, grandiose delusions, and over-exaggrated optimism.
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so you included several metrics I your list of determining
May 20, 2015, 11:11 AM
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The success of a program. May I ask why you left off graduating rates and judicial issues?
You mention coaching. I assume you are happy with the win loss record Steve has put up, especially againt Clemson And rate him high. Do you include any other attributes In your rating of coaches? If so, which attributes and how do you rate Steve In each?
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Re: Whatever helps you sleep at night princess....
May 20, 2015, 3:52 PM
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I will agree. You finished 4th in 2013. You also began 2014 in 9th and finished 2014 surviving Miami to finish the season 7-6. While, Clemson became one of FOUR teams to finish with 10 wins the past FOUR years....(man, you can't make your ###### up!)
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Yeah and that 4th place ranking is based on the erroneous...
May 20, 2015, 9:37 AM
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assumption that the SEC was a superior conference when the NCAA was awarding Alabama those fictional national titles by making sure they were in the title game against another handpicked opponent (remember Notre Dame). After last year, the new format and bowl season verified what a lot of football fans already knew - the SEC was largely overrated!!!! This years championship game, where virtually the same Ohio State team with a third team quarterback that we beat the previous year, destroyed the myth that Alabama is that much better than anyone else. Still laughing about that SEC speed - especially when I think about the LSU players (who didn't want to be there - lol) dropping like flies and the UGA players faking injuries left and right. Nick Saban saw the handwriting on the wall when he tried to get the rules changed regarding hurry-up offenses.
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EVERYONE READ THIS !!^^^^ TU***
May 20, 2015, 11:05 AM
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Re: Yeah and that 4th place ranking is based on the erroneous...
May 20, 2015, 11:27 AM
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Of course the only thing that kept the SEC from winning a national title was letting Ohio State get a chance to play for the title.
06 and 07 say hello.
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Guess you're too ignorant to catch his point.
May 20, 2015, 11:47 AM
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Had it still been a media/ESecPN/BCS game this year,it would have been Bama vs FSU. Both teams that would have been beat be the so called number 3,4,5 & 6 teams. In the VERY FIRST year of the playoff, it was PROVEN what a farce the old system was,along with that the SEC.A FACT you can't argue with.
I know it hurts,as a Coot you've been led to believe in the MIGHTY SEC . It goes back to Lou telling you all that you win anywhere else when you were 1-21.You all lapped up like a Crack Ho on payday.
Now , with the playing field being somewhat leveled, the SEC will not automatically get a spot in the Championship game every year.If the first year is any indication, they'll fail more times than they succeed.
OLe Miss and MISS State being propped up all year,only to get steamrolled in bowl games ,just another point of proof.
The fact that 2 mid level BIG 12 teams have came in and competed better than USuC ever has, also another point that the Might SEC was not as advertised.
Love it having to be won on the field instead of them being automatically anointed with HANDPICKED opponents.The MYTH has been exposed.
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Re: Guess you're too ignorant to catch his point.
May 20, 2015, 1:24 PM
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It's like you don't understand this argument can be made both ways.
The SEC very well could have won the national championship in 2013, 2004, 2002, 2001, 1999 etc.
But you guys don't seem to want to make logical arguments.
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No logic ,the BCS/ESecPN Era has been proven to be a farce.
May 20, 2015, 4:42 PM
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What part of that being [proven in the VERY first year of the playoff can you not grasp ? That's right, without conference affiliation,USuC is pure crap.
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Re: No logic ,the BCS/ESecPN Era has been proven to be a farce.
Jun 3, 2015, 8:48 PM
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+1 for the first of your very pointed and accurate picture links. It is ingrained in them from birth, propped up by a very biased sports media, led by an owned networks (ESecPN). The new system exposed the myth. Now, are there a few really elite teams in the ESecPN? Yes, but not all are special as we all have been trained to believe. The Championship Series exposed that last year. It was "Poetic Justice".
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Ya Notre Dame shouldn't have been there! They were only
Jun 3, 2015, 2:14 PM
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undefeated...
What a moron. You can argue that the SEC as a whole was overrated, but the 7 championships are legitimate. The entire rest of the nation had the opportunity to knock them off, but couldn't. Many idiots here claim that the SEC teams that played in those National Championships shouldn't have been there, and were only there because of flawed rankings- if that was the case, how come they kept winning those games? Do I think all the SEC hype was justified? No, but you can't knock them for the national championships.
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Funny thing is, the very first year that they weren't picked
Jun 5, 2015, 9:20 PM
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BEFORE the season to have one of the 2 spots in the Championship game, they lost. You see, that's the BS ESecPN fed the nation during the BCS era. SEC automatically got 1 spot while the other 100 plus teams fought it out for the other. It was a face is a proven fact.
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Re: and....all these recruits text, skype and tweet each other
May 19, 2015, 10:39 AM
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LOL. That's all you got now. If you want to include history, include all of it and you are still behind us in total wins, number of wins in a streak etc etc. Too bad you can't sell a recently ended state championship streak to a recruit who is a native of Georgia like that matters to him. Oh and 35-17!!!!!
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Three things #### lover....
May 19, 2015, 11:11 AM
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1 - Dabo is 2 - 5 against $CU and the Old Ball Sack.
2 - Carolina is in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, and
3 - $50.00 says Slurrier retires before Dabo gets the chance to even the series at 5 - 5 in 2017.
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#3 is bank... He might not see '16...***
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Re: Our scoreboard says 35-17. Not sure why yours says 1-5.
Jun 7, 2015, 9:17 AM
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It's all they ever have had to be proud of. They only want to think about recent (well, except most recent) history.
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Re: and....all these recruits text, skype and tweet each other
May 19, 2015, 12:48 PM
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our TWO first round draft picks this past draft were both picked up in a top 10 recruiting class the year after we went 6-7. hole in your logic there.
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Its amazing that out of all the chicken comments in this
May 19, 2015, 10:09 AM
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thread, NONE address the issue behind the OP-----that is the remarkable number of recruits that have publicly committed to usuck's football program and then just as publicly de-committed.....and all these people have de-committed aware that usuck was coming off NCAA probation.......strange when one considers recruits usually decommit when a school is facing probation
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Great point. Why are all your recruits decommiting coots?***
May 19, 2015, 10:16 AM
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Re: Great point. Why are all your recruits decommiting coots?***
May 19, 2015, 11:01 AM
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'09 gets my vote for the most ignorant and ill informed coot on this board. He is telling someone they are looking through orange tinted glasses while he has looked through garnet glasses all his life. That is called a hypocrite '09 and that is exactly what you are. Have you ever compared Clemson's campus with USuCk's lack of campus. Night and day DA.
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The burgher in here from both sides is hilarious.***
May 19, 2015, 12:00 PM
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Butthurt Dang autocorrect***
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Lets put it this way Blue boy
May 19, 2015, 12:05 PM
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A true measure of recent history does not include only the last 6 years. That is the capon idea of history. Not any other groups way.
You are trying to stir up our board by continuing to insist that Dabo is 1-5 vs your alkie HOF coach. When in reality you know it isn't true.
Any true statistical analysis requires at least 20 data point to generate a reliable confidence percentage. That's true for golf handicaps, sales data, in fact just about everything.
So let's look at the recent history from the last 20 years shall we...
Oh look. What is the trend?
Clemson has 12 wins Yardbirds 8 wins
That means CU has won 60% of the most recent games.
We have a 99% confidence that we will beat you at least 6 out of 10 times
Its just about the same amount that we have in percentage if you count all of history 66-42 comes out to 61%.
You see Blue boy, the fact is, and you know it, we own you no matter who your coach is, what era it is in, or where the game is played.
Now come back again with your meaningless 1-5 crap. We all see you acting like a cat in a sandbox trying to cover up the turd of the truth. Clemson owns you in football and always will
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You can throw stats out for the foreseeable future... SCar
May 19, 2015, 12:10 PM
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won't recover for a VERY LONG time...
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Re: Lets put it this way Blue boy
May 19, 2015, 12:20 PM
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Blow boy will have nothing else to say and if he does he is stupider than I thought.
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Re: Lets put it this way Blue boy
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I'm sure blockbuster used those "last 20 points of data" to conclude their business plan would be viable today. Spare me this BS. You know SC is in a better place than we were 20 years ago and it's showed in our record against Clemson. SC was 2-8 against Clemson from 95-04. You keep telling yourself we'll regress back to the mean. Ignore the spikes in the data if you'd like. SC's program is in a better place and you know it.
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Your program blows..
Jun 3, 2015, 11:15 AM
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SC missed out during the down tenn and fla years. Zero championships.
Now they are back where they belong, 4th in the east.
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Re: Your program blows..
Jun 5, 2015, 3:29 PM
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Yea, because Florida and Tenn look to be juggernauts. Seriously, it'll be a tough year for SC to do well in the east but there aren't any teams we absolutely have no shot to beat.
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this is a joke. you need to study up on football
Jun 7, 2015, 11:34 AM
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Idiot
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Re: Is your life really so empty that you found a post from 3
Jun 5, 2015, 3:20 PM
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just responding to a friend's comment
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Better than they were in 1998-2000. Yes, I agree with that.
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Better off than Clemson now? You'd better slow down with the coot-aid.
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Re: Yet another de-commit
May 20, 2015, 5:59 PM
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Man they are in a free fall smh
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suck it coots***
Jun 3, 2015, 11:28 AM
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Short and to the point. I like it. TU.***
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