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Paw Master [17086]
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So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
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Apr 22, 2025, 5:13 PM
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Yesterday it was Trump destroying the world economy. Today it was???
Or is it, that traders are just full of ###? And are just as clueless as much of the workforce these days.
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Game Changer [1876]
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If only you had something on the device you posted
Apr 22, 2025, 5:17 PM
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this from that you ask questions and get answers from.
It’s probably because they’re out to get Trump though.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 22, 2025, 5:25 PM
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I think with current economic "policy", you're right. No one has a clue
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Ultimate Tiger [34834]
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Sec of Treasury said in a private event that trade war with China is...
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Apr 22, 2025, 5:32 PM
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sustainable. The mere report of that #### the market up in hopes of a deal with China.
Private remarks send the market up...it's that bad right now.
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Re: Sec of Treasury said in a private event that trade war with China is...
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Apr 22, 2025, 5:35 PM
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Especially private remarks to a room full of top investors with Jamie Dimon hosting.
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Re: Not buying that.***
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Apr 22, 2025, 5:48 PM
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Why do you think it is so erratic?
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Paw Master [17086]
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I mentioned it in my first post.
Apr 22, 2025, 5:56 PM
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There is no way to logic out the last two days; it's simply illogical captain.
I read market watch daily and they will literally contradict themselves from article to article. Which is why I said that I don't think anyone knows ### they are doing.
For instance; trump's promises of tariffs tank the market; yet Biden's promise of record high corporate tax rates, do nothing. The end result of the two is the same, but the markets were polar opposites.
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Ultimate Tiger [34834]
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It's because Trump is a unilateral loose cannon and...
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Apr 22, 2025, 6:13 PM
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Biden couldn't increase taxes without Congress.
Your comparison/example proves your ignorance on the subject. And an marginal increase in tax rate is not the same as massive tariffs.
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Re: It's because Trump is a unilateral loose cannon and...
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Apr 22, 2025, 10:22 PM
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Economics is a very difficult quasi-science that depends upon a multitude of ‘fixed values’ to variables that, in real life, cannot be ‘fixed.’
These are not my words, they are Hayek’s.
This is pretty much everybody’s understanding of the market: Investors do not l8ke uncertainty; their best economic models are unable to incorporate new changes in economic variables.
What the market is doing is hanging on the words of any given powerful entity and attempting to glean whether or not that ‘word’ will move the market upward or downward. Doing this so what ignores the investor’s inability to properly re-weigh their confidence level of their other market-variables. In other words, the quant factor has changed in those other market variables inputs to their economic models, but they don’t know how to attempt to recalibrate those other factors.
None of this is to say that the market is on a path towards greater fundamental mprovement or fundamental decline.
Remember, one of the objects of the Trump tariffs is to ‘normalize’ tariffs, while also r3ducing protectionist regulatory barriers, that build in inefficiencies (and wasted costs) to world trade. This is the ‘the (EU / Korea / S.America / India / etc) is ripping the USA off’ aspect.
The other side is the ‘America will impose protectionist tariffs to create new manufacturing jobs’ which is an impairment to less-encumbered trade.
(***). Finally, don’t forget that the tariffs also have objectives of improving national security and to motivate previously disengaged countries to get serious about taking action to reduce the flow of fentanyl into America.
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Game Changer [1876]
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From the guy who doesnt understand CPI.***
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Apr 22, 2025, 11:02 PM
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Re: From the guy who doesnt understand CPI.***
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Apr 23, 2025, 9:57 PM
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Show your stuff.
Share the foundational algorithm in which the CPI is based.
Another of TNet’s self-professed expert in the CPI could not identify which (among three) of basic algorithms was the basis of CPI calculation.
The base algorithm involves two separate meat items (hamburger and chicken), a starting price and consumption amount for each, and an ending price for each meat.
The total quantity of meat that gets consumed remains constant between the starting period and the end of the time period. Substitution of one meat with the other meat takes place, yet the overall consumption of meat remains fixed.
I had presented three separate ways in which CPI could be calculated, each using a different algorithm. Each result for CPI was different.
Big mouthed self-proclaimed experts on TNet about how the CPI gets calculated … which algorithm is used? … stay silent. Because speaking up and making their ‘knowledge’ known would only prove their ignorance.
Let me know if you dare to take the Pepsi Challenge. (I know you won’t take the dare because you don’t know squat.)
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Re: So many words, yet no point...again***
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Apr 23, 2025, 5:51 AM
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As usual.
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Re: I mentioned it in my first post.
Apr 22, 2025, 6:47 PM
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It's very logical unless you are new to this. There is uncertainty due to Trump's policies. When it gets beat up people buy. There is no continuity to Trump's agenda. It's all pretty straightforward. The problem is you're so blinded by the cult leader you worship that you don't see the obvious that most others see.
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Re: I mentioned it in my first post.
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Apr 22, 2025, 8:56 PM
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The stock market doesn’t care about politics, the market cares about stability and predictability.
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Re: I mentioned it in my first post.
Apr 22, 2025, 9:07 PM
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The market is largely controlled by large institutional investors, not us little people. The institutions all share information with each other. Occasionally (only), the little guys can make something happen with a single stock like AMC and Gamestop.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [107407]
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Here's what happened. Captain Trump stepped aboard the USS Economy
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Apr 22, 2025, 9:34 PM
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He went straight to the bridge and took the helm. He then turned the wheel of this massive 29 trillion ton ship to the right. Nothing happened. So he turned it some more. A little budge right. So he yanked the wheel right two full turns. The ship then started listing to the port side. He turned it some more right and it listed dangerously to the port side. Someone tapped him on the shoulder and said he should turn the wheel back left before the ship capsizes. So he yanks it to the left spinning the wheel three full turns. The ship then rolls hard and dangerous to the starboard side. Trump then forgets where he is on his wheel spins and someone taps him on the shoulder and whispers to him to go one full turn back.
By now the passengers are freaking out because they realize the captain is an idiot, and they all want off the ship.
Chaos ensues. The bridge staff starts bickering among themselves, half wanting to set Trump straight so no one dies, and the other half just want him to give them a raise.
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Ultimate Tiger [34834]
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That's because you're clueless...next?***
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 22, 2025, 5:43 PM
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It's erratic because Trump is a dipshyt. As far as why it was up today, people still see opportunity when it's beat up. It's not like there aren't good times ahead at one point. Who knows when?
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
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Apr 22, 2025, 6:12 PM
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Real investors are busy looking for opportunities now. People who “play the stock market” are busy being in panic mode as they always do.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 22, 2025, 7:07 PM
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Maybe 6 months from now
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 22, 2025, 7:29 PM
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Real investors are also on the sidelines not trusting it. They see the danger. Berkshire Hathaway isn't sitting on close to 330 billion dollars in cash because they trust the market.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
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Apr 22, 2025, 8:59 PM
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It’s just not possible to time the market. Just go back through history and look at how the expert predictions on the market worked out. Best approach is always stay invested and be patient. I admit it takes putting emotion aside and I can’t say I never worry. But I do stay the course. Always have and always will. It works.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
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Apr 22, 2025, 9:09 PM
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Do you think it’s by accident that stocks go up long term? Do you think it’s just by happenstance, something to take for granted? Diligent and shrewd economic stewardship is pretty much the US government’s only job outside of war. If the party in power is failing at that missive, they get replaced.
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Warren Buffett doesn't "time" the market. He invests for the long haul
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Apr 22, 2025, 9:43 PM
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He DOES TIME bad events pretty well though, and you can see when he does that by his percentage of cash holdings. Dot com bubble, housing crisis in 2008, and now Trump. He's sold off stock many times leveraging his cash position against a falling/broken markets.
Don't look at the total cash he holds, but look at the percentage his holdings are in cash, that tells the tale.
It's interesting because 2008 perked for so long, he was actually a bit early in his timing for that, but he started selling and raising cash about the same time Michael Bury and the very first people got into the housing shorts.
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Buffett put his $ where his mouth is - reduced position in equities B4 Trump 47
Apr 23, 2025, 10:05 PM
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Indeed, although Buffet, as shown in your chart, does change his allocation of equities vs high quality debt (primarily federal government debt instruments).
His allocation of cash went up starting 2024. He saw equities as be8ng not worth the 85% to 90% allocation.
FYI, Trump was not president then (when Buffet shifted his weightings away from equities).
TNet’s TDS investment geniuses won’t care. Blame it all on Orange Man Bad.
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Re: Buffett put his $ where his mouth is - reduced position in equities B4 Trump 47
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The current Trump Slump is 100% on your Orange Jesus. The stock market should recover, but the damage to farmers is already done. They lost the China market for soybeans after his shitbrain tariffs in 2018. Now it's time for cotton. That effing idiot and his shyt-eating worshippers.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 22, 2025, 9:45 PM
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Trump and his conspirators are definitely timing the market now, DA. If you don't think people a connection or two away are not making bank off of Trump's idiocy, I have a piece of shyt to sell you for lunch.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 23, 2025, 5:50 AM
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Ver mature and articulate response. You sound like just the guy people should take financial advice from.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 23, 2025, 8:41 PM
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You could really help yourself by listening to people like me who understand the world a bit better than you.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 24, 2025, 7:18 AM
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Now that’s funny. I have lots of people in my circle that I listen to. I can’t imagine ever taking advice from you. Wow!!!
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 24, 2025, 9:54 PM
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Do all the other guys eat dog shyt too?
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Paw Warrior [4934]
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 25, 2025, 5:36 AM
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How old are you? Seriously? 14? 15?
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 25, 2025, 7:30 AM
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60. Tell your idiot financial advisor to budget your shyt consumption.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 25, 2025, 7:48 AM
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Interesting. I’m 60 also. Only thing we have in common thank goodness.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 25, 2025, 8:26 AM
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Right. I don’t eat shyt. And I’m not an effing moron. There’s a lot.
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Paw Warrior [4934]
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 25, 2025, 8:52 AM
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Can I ask you a question and can you please give a reasonable response. I see you make coherent posts at times and then you go polar extreme with this kind of stuff. Why is that? Seriously you sound reasonable at times and then go off the rails. You post like 2 different t personalities. Why?
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 25, 2025, 8:59 AM
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Sometimes I’m just offended by stupidity and resort to shock value to get morons to listen. I want you to reflect on all of the mind-numbingly stupid things you do and say every day.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 25, 2025, 9:12 AM
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Oh ok. Go back to your beer chubby.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
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It’s been cool watching your myriad explanations for why the sudden interruption of a bull market is a good thing, and wishing away criticism of the instability causing it as just people who aren’t as sophisticated as you are.
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
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Apr 22, 2025, 9:07 PM
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Who was this meant for? Hard to tell in the thread sometimes.
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I warned everyone over and over when Trump was running, to the extent he
Apr 22, 2025, 9:50 PM
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does what he says, is the extent he will screw up the economy. And he won, and did what he said he would do, and what has happened was completely expected. I mean no one expects a President to be a moron, but if he is, the results are panning out pretty much as expected.
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If you would watch real un-Fox news you might actually learn something***
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Stay in your lane loser***
Apr 22, 2025, 8:15 PM
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Re: So, what happened causing the last two day's market swings?
Apr 22, 2025, 9:03 PM
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If you want to start to understand economics and markets, I’d recommend buying yourself a wall st journal subscription and just read and learn.
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They know they need the American economy. They aren't going to miss out.
Apr 23, 2025, 3:17 AM
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It was the Passover dump and pump.
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