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Somebody tell me why brownell deserves to be back next year.
Jan 26, 2014, 7:44 PM
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hes not going anywhere unless the bottom falls out
Jan 26, 2014, 7:46 PM
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we simply don't care enough to fire the guy quite frankly...basketball is and probably will always be something we do between football and baseball seasons....we don't pay attn until after the bowl game and then go away in March.
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^^ Exactly. Basketball takes a backseat to FB and baseball
Jan 26, 2014, 7:49 PM
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We won't throw the money out for a top notch basketball coach when it is our 3rd priority
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I guess.***
Jan 26, 2014, 7:52 PM
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Pretty bad when a coot agrees with you. LOL!!***
Jan 26, 2014, 8:27 PM
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Re: hes not going anywhere unless the bottom falls out
Jan 26, 2014, 8:08 PM
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Didn't anyone ever tell you that there are only two athletic seasons at Clemson . . . 1) Football, and 2) Waiting for Football! Pretty sad!
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We used to have some good teams with LJ packed
Jan 26, 2014, 8:19 PM
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to the rafters. So, we CAN and have had good teams with plenty of interest. Barnes and some of his predecessors beat some top teams.
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110%er [7913]
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they did but Barnes left because he found a better job
Jan 26, 2014, 8:27 PM
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OP reached a certain level and left...Bill Foster did the same....Ellis did the same....seen it since 72...repeats itself over and over
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Re: He has one coming that he beat Samford and UAB for.***
Jan 26, 2014, 7:46 PM
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Re: He has one coming that he beat Samford and UAB for.***
Jan 26, 2014, 7:48 PM
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Yea Michigan Cinci and WVU didnt offer Donte Grantham....
First your comments insulting KJ now this great job showing your basketball knowledge is nil.
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Re: Bo I am looking at a 30 point loss for the second
Jan 26, 2014, 7:50 PM
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straight time. You need anymore.
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Re: Bo I am looking at a 30 point loss for the second
Jan 26, 2014, 7:52 PM
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nice response.
You are the idiot who just tried to claim our incoming recruits have no big offers (Wrong) You are the idiot who tried to claim KJ wouldnt start for most ACC teams (Also Wrong)
Those are the facts here.
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Re: Bo I am looking at a 30 point loss for the second
Jan 26, 2014, 7:55 PM
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i agree 117 now you use the same logic with jack this year
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Re: Bo I am looking at a 30 point loss for the second
Jan 26, 2014, 7:57 PM
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Difference is our Baseball program should be winning Championships.
Baseball has what it needs to recruit top notch players and win championships. The expectation levels for Baseball and Basketball are and should be different.
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Re: Bo I am looking at a 30 point loss for the second
Jan 26, 2014, 8:02 PM
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we do period you f'n moron
jack will be in the hall and your dumba$$ will still be whining.
Oh don't forget you dogging Dabo 4 years ago KID
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Re: Bo I am looking at a 30 point loss for the second
Jan 26, 2014, 8:05 PM
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I never dogged Dabo 4 years ago that is bull #### plain and simple.
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Re: Bo I am looking at a 30 point loss for the second
Jan 26, 2014, 8:06 PM
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Oh yes you did remember your days on the bad apple KID
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Re: Bo I am looking at a 30 point loss for the second
Jan 26, 2014, 8:12 PM
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Im not a kid little buddy and I never dogged Dabo that is pure ####### fiction. Was he my first choice of hire? No did I state that yes? That doesnt mean I was dogging him. I have supported him after the decision was made. He has grown tremendously as a HC and has done a great job .
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Re: Don't argue with 117, he just talks in circles. Must be
Jan 26, 2014, 8:06 PM
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No Jack stole his girl or his mother
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Re: Don't argue with 117, he just talks in circles. Must be
Jan 26, 2014, 8:10 PM
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poor armsb you still have not learned when you resort to childish posts like this you have lose any and all credibility. I am sorry the facts I post hurt your feelings.
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Re: Don't argue with 117, he just talks in circles. Must be
Jan 26, 2014, 9:43 PM
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Because he's a nice man in a football school.
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See what I mean.***
Jan 26, 2014, 8:08 PM
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Re: See what I mean.***
Jan 26, 2014, 8:10 PM
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Yep people can click your post history and see what I mean.
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Re: Don't argue with 117, he just talks in circles. Must be
Jan 26, 2014, 8:10 PM
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lets see, will i listen to the critique by coach k of our coach or will i listen to the idiots on this board. no brainer. we are offensively challenged for sure but hopefully help is on the way with the 2 guys we signed.
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Re: How many times do you have to see this to realize you
Jan 26, 2014, 8:01 PM
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Nice rebuttal. Oh wait you said jack #### to disprove my factual statement.
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Re: Here is a fact for your 56 and 0 at CH. Need anything
Jan 26, 2014, 8:12 PM
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else?
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Re: Here is a fact for your 56 and 0 at CH. Need anything
Jan 26, 2014, 8:14 PM
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Once again an attempt at misdirection away from the facts that were posted.
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Re: He has one coming that he beat Samford and UAB for.***
Jan 26, 2014, 7:56 PM
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Serious question, why didn't WVU offer Grantham last year? They never could pull the trigger on it for the post season signings in 2013.
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WVU wanted Donte. Go to there boards and ask.
Jan 26, 2014, 8:58 PM
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Michigan put a full court press on for him. He is a good get for BB - that doesn't mean we'll be successful, but he is a strong recruit.
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Who are you going to bring in to replace him?
Jan 26, 2014, 7:48 PM
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Swear to God the first person to say Shaka Smart gets a throat punch.
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Anyone. I would be out there looking at young black
Jan 26, 2014, 7:54 PM
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assistants at successful schools, quite honestly.
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Re: Anyone. I would be out there looking at young black
Jan 26, 2014, 7:57 PM
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the last black coach we had lefted in the middle of the night. Why does he have to be black?????
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Re: Do you know of any white kids who want to play here?
Jan 26, 2014, 8:02 PM
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How many did OP sign? Two?
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When you're clemson, you gotta take chances. Our last roll
Jan 26, 2014, 8:03 PM
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Of the dice has been a song and a miss.
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Re: Somebody tell me why brownell deserves to be back next year.
Jan 26, 2014, 7:48 PM
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Who would you offer to replace him with?
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Uh, because he's not the first Clemson coach to lose at UNC.***
Jan 26, 2014, 7:50 PM
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Granted. But we are no better off...worse probably...than
Jan 26, 2014, 7:56 PM
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when he took over. My question was serious. What are the silver linings? Where is the growth?
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I think the growth is that we are finally seeing actual
Jan 26, 2014, 7:59 PM
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basketball players getting recruited. We're not resorting to a whole team of big men (Barnes), or fast athletes that are coached to shoot the ball (Purnell) and then players who just really weren't that good in any aspect (Shyatt). Our lack tonight of just solid underneath player is killing us (I think. I'm not coach).
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Re: I think the growth is that we are finally seeing actual
Jan 26, 2014, 8:03 PM
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When will the actual payoff be though? Last year all I remember hearing was how Brownell couldn't be blamed for how bad we were because Blossomgame and Coleman weren't playing. This year, Blossomgame hasn't been any kind of scoring sensation and Coleman has been run off. I'm ready for us to have at least one guy who is a shooter. Right now we have none, and even if Coleman could have been that guy, he didn't have good enough D to play for Brownell.
Obviously I'm no BB coach and Brownell knows way more than me, but he might be better served if he were to get at least one guy that is a shooter and play him, even if his D isn't up to snuff.
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No seniors.
Jan 26, 2014, 7:53 PM
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He'll have his first group of seniors next year and he'll need to show a big step forward.
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Re: That only means that we get the same ones back.***
Jan 26, 2014, 8:13 PM
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Because
Jan 26, 2014, 7:53 PM
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We are used to sucking. Low expectations and we get what we expect.
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Probably the truest response.***
Jan 26, 2014, 7:57 PM
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Re: Somebody tell me why brownell deserves to be back next year.
Jan 26, 2014, 7:53 PM
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We will take him! I'm 100% dead serious.
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Re:I think that nut head has his team playing better right
Jan 26, 2014, 8:14 PM
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now.
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Re:I think that nut head has his team playing better right
Jan 26, 2014, 8:25 PM
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Uhh.....NO. Trust me. And at least BB didn't threaten to rip one of your players' eyes out of their sockets. Or sorry, I meant their f&$/@/@/--, ! sockets.
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Because lunkheads keep making excuses for him and accept mediocrity
Jan 26, 2014, 7:53 PM
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Drives me nuts.
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Re: Because lunkheads keep making excuses for him and accept mediocrity
Jan 26, 2014, 7:55 PM
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Ah he is still alive.
The loser who is no where to be found during good times shows his face again. How pathetic.
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You are part of the problem. I'm sure you were a Bowden lover
Jan 26, 2014, 7:58 PM
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"Sucking" is fine with you!
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Re: You are part of the problem. I'm sure you were a Bowden lover
Jan 26, 2014, 8:00 PM
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False but nice try #######. Once again you are a loser who only comes around after losses. That is the most pathetic thing I have ever heard of. You are not a fan. You are a ####### whiner and a pathetic loser. PERIOD.
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Re: Yep, I liked Bowden. He never lost 5 in a row to the
Jan 26, 2014, 8:18 PM
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Coots.
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Re: Yep, I liked Bowden. He never lost 5 in a row to the
Jan 26, 2014, 8:19 PM
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Bowden should have been shown the door after the drubbing at WF.
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Somebody tell me
Jan 26, 2014, 7:56 PM
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Why somebody on this board ALWAYS calls for our coach to be fired EVERY time we lose a game....no matter what the sport?
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Are we any better now than when he took over?***
Jan 26, 2014, 7:58 PM
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Re: Somebody tell me
Jan 26, 2014, 7:59 PM
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Because they don't know a #### thing about sports (esp. basketball) and think a coaching change will magically make the program better.
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Wouldn't you expect to see improvement this many years
Jan 26, 2014, 8:06 PM
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in? Seems like brad has had his chance. I hope I'm wrong, but we won't finish above .500 in conference play this year.
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Re: Wouldn't you expect to see improvement this many years
Jan 26, 2014, 8:11 PM
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I have seen improvement. If you haven't it means, as I said, you don't know a #### thing about basketball.
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You're crazy. Purnell's teams, not that they were great,
Jan 26, 2014, 8:14 PM
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would run all over brad's teams. And don't get me wrong, Purnell was not a great coach. But brownell is awful. Those kids look clueless out there.
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Re: You're crazy. Purnell's teams, not that they were great,
Jan 26, 2014, 8:16 PM
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Hey, here's a clue for you. No seniors. Purnell left the cupboard bare when he split for Chi-town.
If you truly think that replacing Brownell with some no-name JuCo coach is the answer, you're the crazy one.
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That was 4 years ago. And brad's best record was posted with
Jan 26, 2014, 8:23 PM
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that supposedly bare cupboard. Year 2 was a little worse. Year 3 was worse. It's year 4 and our final record won't be much improved over last year. The product on the floor is awful. Unwatchable. I didn't think we could play uglier than we did under Purnell, but we are. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. The problem is that clemson doesn't care enough about basketball to really try. That's the sad part.
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Re: That was 4 years ago. And brad's best record was posted with
Jan 26, 2014, 8:30 PM
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His best record was with seniors left over from Purnell. Guys with experience. You're wanting to get rid of Brownell before he even has a chance to fully develop his players. If you really haven't seen flashes of a good team this year then you haven't been watching.
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OK, we'll revisit the issue next year. lol***
Jan 26, 2014, 9:51 PM
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Clemson MBB sux. No one to replace Brownell. Doesnt
Jan 26, 2014, 8:05 PM
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Mean that this staff should receive fan support. Support from the AD from a financial prrspective is one thing but he hasn't done anything with *his* players since he got here. Cool that he is the best we can get but not cool that we suck this much. I kind of wish that if in 60+ years if we can't compete, we just say we can't. Not all schools play LAX because we can't get LAX players. Same with BBall. Just say we can't compete and lean on FBall. This sport doesn't add anything to our school.
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Re: Somebody tell me why brownell deserves to be back next year.
Jan 26, 2014, 8:30 PM
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I said it before the season to deserve to come back he needs to win around 18 games. Right now he is on pace to do that. Honestly if we make the NIT this season it should be considered a successful year. Now if we fall apart down the stretch and don't make the NIT then he is probably done for.
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he needs to come back just to pi$$ you off***
Jan 26, 2014, 8:32 PM
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Oh, I'm not pissed. I'm actually used to it. But losing to
Jan 26, 2014, 9:54 PM
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Carolina is definitely worse than other losses. Hey, if you like losing then you'll be happy to have him for years to come, right?
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Re: Somebody tell me why brownell deserves to be back next year.***
Jan 26, 2014, 9:04 PM
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