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Paw Master [16948]
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Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 6:48 AM
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It is real. It affects everyone. If you hunt or fish this is really alarming.
Sea levels are riding. From Post Courier this morning.
In 1922, the year tide level recording began in Charleston harbor, there were a grand total of two minor flood events (7 feet). In 2023, Charleston experienced 75 flood events that crossed the 7-foot line, including minor, moderate and major floods.
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Orange Blooded [2412]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 6:55 AM
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I'm not alarmed.
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Valley Protector [1408]
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Its the next generations problem.
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:04 AM
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Been the mentality since the Boomers, just gotta keep riding the wave.
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Clemson Icon [24892]
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found one
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:50 AM
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LOL
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CU Guru [1121]
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If youre saying pollution is the reason the earth is getting warmer, then
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:39 PM
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you’re barking up the wrong tree by chastising Americans. We do have a lot of cars but industrial pollution from China and India are by far the leading contributors to global pollution.
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National Champion [7888]
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Re: If youre saying pollution is the reason the earth is getting warmer, then
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Feb 7, 2024, 10:20 PM
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^^^^nope
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110%er [3946]
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^^^^ Are you a moron?***
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Feb 8, 2024, 2:48 PM
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National Champion [8075]
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i think we all know the answer to that question***
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Feb 9, 2024, 11:04 AM
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Clemson Icon [24011]
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Orange Elite [5238]
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Re: If youre saying pollution is the reason the earth is getting warmer, then
Feb 11, 2024, 4:25 PM
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It's actually the Earth's weakening magnetic field and the solar cycles combined.
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Game Changer [1840]
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Orange Elite [5238]
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Re: If youre saying pollution is the reason the earth is getting warmer, then
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Feb 11, 2024, 4:26 PM
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China asked for it and we gave it to them.
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Clemson Sports Icon [56263]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:08 AM
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Oooooooo!!! When I lived in Charleston in 1985 it flooded every time it rained at high tide. Why did Obama buy a beach house at Martha's Vineyard? Biden has a beach house.
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Head Coach [982]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:21 AM
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tRump does too. The point is that the last 3 presidents have beach houses???
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CU Guru [1121]
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Do you like Joe Biden?***
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:48 PM
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Paw Warrior [4766]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 6:33 PM
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Beach house purchase just means you're not really worried about any rising water levels.
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Clemson Sports Icon [56649]
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Yep. And Trump isn't playing the climate change card like the other 3....How
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Feb 8, 2024, 6:37 AM
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in the world do you throw in Trump with those three.....I saw an article a couple of months ago that was talking about this large tract of forest that was cleared to make a battery factory. Well sir, the trees they bulldozed would have filtered out more CO2 than the dadgum battery factory was going to save. A lot more....
People need to open their eyes. The upper levels of government and society are not going to do without their gasoline driven cars, jet fueled private jets, diesel driven yachts,and mega mansions. Check out Al Gore's carbon foot print on his house...
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: Yep. And Trump isn't playing the climate change card like the other 3....How
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Feb 8, 2024, 7:36 AM
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Well said Spud!
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Tiger Spirit [9338]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 9, 2024, 4:24 PM
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He doesn’t have solar panels on top of it either.
Hmmmm…
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Orange Blooded [2364]
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Re: No, Trump doesn't claim CC is going to kill us all.***
Feb 8, 2024, 8:56 AM
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Tiger Spirit [9338]
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Re: No, Trump doesn't claim CC is going to kill us all.***
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Feb 9, 2024, 4:25 PM
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I died from climate crisis 20 years ago.
Al Groh was right.
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Campus Hero [13855]
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Because they have enough money to buy
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Feb 9, 2024, 8:13 AM
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the private insurance and not be worried about it. Benefits of sucking the lifeblood from everyone else "beneath" you for decades.
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CU Medallion [19704]
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Folks owning beach houses now will be deaded when #### hits fan
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:34 AM
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Like social security, etc. Don’t matter the folks in charge will be gone and others will figure it out in the future and/or suffer consequences. Besides, the folks in charge now will point to previous generations for causing issues (if they believe there are issues with climate or social security or borders or name something that is tough to fix) - so why should it fall into the shoulders of the current generation in power.
Anyway houses are to enjoy now. And as far as Biden and Obama buying beach houses - well Marxist communist socialist Dims is stupid in general so makes sense.
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All-American [570]
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:36 PM
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Exactly, they've all bought expensive mansions on the beach because they know it's nothing but a globalist scam like covid, etc. etc.
More to that, watched an impressive presentation by a billionaire who used to "buy into the globalist bs" until, as he said, he used common sense.
Banks, Insurance companies don't loan or write policies in flood areas (one example), they are on top of the future, valuations, etc...if they even slightly thought or felt the global warming bs was real, they'd not be loaning money, let alone insuring anything even close to the ocean, etc. but yet they do...case and point the entire thing is a scam. Yet another globalist plot top destroy our freedoms, take away our wealth, etc etc.
To think here we are almost 4 years after the scamDEMic and there's still people believing their TVs and this globalist propaganda...AND...not simply using their own common sense and critical thinking. Because if they did, they see thought all the BS.
Sadly the reason they've not is that the majority of the people only think, know, and believe what the TV tells them. They have zero ability to think on their own - if they actually ever did.
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CU Guru [1589]
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:44 PM
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Go ask the banks and insurance companies what they think about climate change and how climate change has impacted their business.
Then deploy some of your ability to think on your own.
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Clemson Sports Icon [56649]
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You mean the banks that are closing your account if you don't
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Feb 8, 2024, 10:31 AM
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Have DEI cred? Or if you believe in the 2nd amendment? Or...heaven firbud...you have an American flag hanging off your building?
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Gridiron Giant [15972]
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:43 PM
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The hospital actually put fake patients in beds for me to come and put into body bags each day.
But hey, at least I got to go to work right?
So essential.
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MVP [525]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 11:15 AM
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Oooooooo!!! When I lived in Charleston in 1985 it flooded every time it rained at high tide. Why did Obama buy a beach house at Martha's Vineyard? Biden has a beach house.
so does Nancy Pelosi. So obviously they not too concerned for themselves.
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Feb 9, 2024, 7:42 AM
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Soros bought Obama's and the Chinese bought Biden's for services rendered.
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All-American [558]
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Feb 11, 2024, 3:03 PM
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A lot of people love their beach houses. A lot of houses get wrecked or washed away by storms or hurricanes. When money is not a concern, rich people have beach houses. Mara Laga will be flooded by the rising tides.
Buying house insurance in Florida is getting to be very difficult and very expensive.
The federal govt needs to stop backing flood insurance.
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:43 AM
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Nimrod, did it ever occur to you that the flooding issue has been caused by man and not the climate. If you know any history at all, a good bit of the peninsula is built on early colonial garbage.
The old Provost bldg. use to sit on the Cooper River. It ain't no where close to the water now. Could be the "Holy City" is slowly sinking.
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Paw Master [16948]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:50 AM
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I appreciate your post nimrod. I know my share of the peninsula history. I got certified as a tour guide ( back when tours guides were actually certified ) in 1993. Probably before your time. I owned and operated a sightseeing tour company since that time. Sea levels are rising. It’s a fact. And yes man is causing the rise and not that downtown is sinking.
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:59 AM
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Accept my apology for addressing you as Nimrod, I had a Biden moment and confused you with Al "we have 10 years" Gore.
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Walk-On [79]
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Anyone remember when Columbia was on the coast? How about the Sandhills?
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:12 AM
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Where's the coast supposed to be? Shark teeth have been found in Aiken.
Climate change is happening but CO2 from Man (especially those in the US) is not the cause.
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Re: Anyone remember when Columbia was on the coast? How about the Sandhills?
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Feb 7, 2024, 12:16 PM
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There is nothing to compare it too. The earth could have been where it is now 500 years ago. Point being there is nothing static and things are alway changing.
I do also understand that the US is very small in comparing us to the planet as a whole and find it really naive to believe that changing our way of life is going to change a thing. I guess it just makes them feel better.
Lot of people are getting very rich in this whole deal that’s for sure. Talking to you Al Gore and John Kerry…
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Re: Anyone remember when Columbia was on the coast? How about the Sandhills?
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:09 PM
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actually yes, we are the largest consumer economy in the world. Everything has a carbon footprint. You can point the finger at China and India being the worst polluters, but they are making our cheap disposable crap, so in the end, Yes, we are the ones most responsible for greenhouse emissions.
And unfortunately, being that we live in a consumer economy, meaning that if we do nto keep buying things, the whole thing crashes on our head, which is silly, an economic system that requires infinite consumption on a planet with finite resources. This can only end one way.
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Game Changer [1920]
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Re: Anyone remember when Columbia was on the coast? How about the Sandhills?
Feb 7, 2024, 4:44 PM
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So, what changes do you suggest?
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TigerNet Champion [117865]
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Stop voting for Climate deniers as a start
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Feb 7, 2024, 6:39 PM
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Build smaller homes, this is already happening.
Buy American goods and make them last.
Work from home.
get a hybrid for your next car
Cut Beef consumption in half
Cross your fingers that we can harness Nuclear Fusion in the next 20 years.(this would be the big one), it would drastically raise the standard of living for the entire planet and should be one of science's top priorities.
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Game Changer [1920]
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Re: Stop voting for Climate deniers as a start
Feb 7, 2024, 7:31 PM
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I like most of that. However, most things we use and need are no longer made here. Work at home is okay for a small percentage
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Game Changer [1928]
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Re: Stop voting for Climate deniers as a start
Feb 9, 2024, 11:55 AM
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small percentage? Most jobs only require a computer and phone line.
More like the overwhelming majority of jobs.
You can say people slack off all you want, that is projection of how you would act.
Myself and most others have found that they work substantially better and more now that they are remote.
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MVP [525]
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Re: Stop voting for Climate deniers as a start
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Tell that to the people that load the trucks at Amazon Prime, UPS, FedEx etc to deliver the goods so that you can sit at home and work in front of your computer.
Stop voting for AGW fear mongers as a start and start looking for the underlying motivations driving the current popular narrative. For example maybe ask the question “What’s in this for the AGW proponents vs the Climate (Change) Deniers?”
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Athletic Dir [1126]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 1:34 PM
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Just out of curiosity, When was the last time the harbor was dredged? My lay person's knowledge is limited, but I guess that since a large portion of the state (and maybe beyond) drains into the harbor from the Ashley and Cooper Rivers that there would be a large amount of silt buildup on the harbor floor. Wouldn't that skew the data towards the sea rising and not the harbor becoming more shallow? Maybe that's way over simplifying, but I don't know.
New Orleans is far worse due to the fact that 2/3 of the country drains through it. Technically there should be no reason for New Orleans to exist, and yet it does through a system of dikes and/or levees which proved to be basically ineffective or insufficient during Katrina.
And just for the record, cities like Charleston, New Orleans, Savannah, etc. were due to be underwater by the year 2000 if you go back to the 1980's and read some of that data. The year keeps getting pushed as we "learn" more and more about it. So.....pardon my skepticism.
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All-American [570]
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Re: Climate change
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Ding ding, finally some critical thinking. Fact is, none of the BS they're selling makes sense and constantly contradicts itself (not to mention their "facts" have been proven to be either manipulated, fabricated, or omitted to make their 'case' - fact is, there are zero facts that support 'global warming', actually it's the contrary, all the facts prove it's BS, sad thing is the sheep don't know the facts because they still believe their Tvs, lol, silly sheep)...which is why it's so so sad how ignorant, brain washed and conditioned the sheep are.
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Clemson Sports Icon [56649]
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C'mon man...the border is secure. Mayorkas tells us that every day.***
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Gridiron Giant [15972]
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My understanding is that Chas Harbor is in a constant
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:46 PM
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cycle of being dredged.
Maybe that’s not accurate.
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Solid Orange [1340]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:38 PM
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It’s not climate change but climate cycles. Been doing it for many many years. Yes we can be stewards but man ain’t changing it
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Re: Climate change
Feb 7, 2024, 9:57 PM
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I’ve got 10k for your favorite charity if you’ll get sworn in and publically cross examined to find out what you know. Because surely a moral person who purports to know things and is advocating to make his neighbors pay for his notions would darn sure know what he’s talking about.
It would take less than 5 minutes to show you have next to no real knowledge, yet you advocate.
When it’s shown you have no knowledge, you’ll owe me 10k. Put your money where your knowledge is not. I’ll put you into a box and smash you with your own words.
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Clemson Sports Icon [56649]
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I could be sworn in today and go testify on ANY topic they want to interrogate
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me about. I only need a handful of previously prepared statements such as 1. I don't now the answer to that Senator. 2. I will have to back to my superiors and get that for you Senator and report back. 3. I can not speak to an ongoing investigation 4. That has already been answered so I'll just leave it at that 5. I cannot answer that in this forum but I can speak to you privately
ENNNNNNNY Topic.
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Re: I could be sworn in today and go testify on ANY topic they want to interrogate
Feb 9, 2024, 11:24 AM
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Do you have your Real ID with the Star on it? You can't get into a Federal Building or fly on an airline with out one. I put off getting mine because I wouldn't be able to serve on a Federal jury or testify before Congress! Finally had to get a new DL and they postponed the effective date.
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Re: Climate change
Feb 7, 2024, 3:27 PM
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If the peninsula was sinking - wouldn't that put the old Provost Building underwater - not farther from it ???
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 8:42 AM
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Ok I'm gonna splain it to you. It's up to you to grasp it.
In 1771 when the "Provost" building was finished by the "Red Coats" it backed up to the Cooper River and there were wharfs extending out into the river for sailing ships, yes "wind powered" vessels to dock.
Now there are two blocks of fill behind East Bay ending at Concord St., also there is an expansive park between Concord St. and the river.
I know the building has not been moved so how did all that land materialize?
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Exactly, it's so sad how these sheep can just swallow the fascist propaganda and then regurgitate it without a single coherent thought.
Poor sheep.
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Clemson Sports Icon [56649]
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You mean like all that land they have been slowly filling in on the right as you
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cross over the Cooper River on 526....If the ocean decides to RECLAIM that piece, that will be evidence of global warming....I saw a hearing the other day where one of the congressman asked a witness how much of the atmosphere was made up of whatever gas it was the witness was upset about....And the witness did not even know. None of the three knew. And when they guessed, the sad, " 5 percent, 7 percent, and the third said, I'm gonna do like I'm on The Price is Right and go higher and say 8 percent"...I KID YOU NOT. And then the congressman said,"It's.... point 4 percent (.4).....
That is the same exaggeration they did on the covid deaths. Go back and look at the total numbers of deaths during that time. It wasn't much higher than the years without covid. I realize people died from COVID. I lost about 5 or 6 clients, fraternity brothers, friends....But the numbers were severely distorted. Doctors were forced to put COVID as the cause of death, when a guy was suffering from kidney failure,pneumonia,heart disease, heck even a motorcycle accidident,etc. The powers in charged shut down reporting on any kind of treatment that was not THE VAX. WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT? Joe Rogan used Ivermectin and was better in a couple of days, but the main stream media put out a picture of Joe where they used a green filter to make him look deathly ill.....And then the media tried to make the public think he was using the same Ivermectin they gave to Secretariat...
You want see any of that on NBC,ABC,CBS etc. etc.
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Re: You mean like all that land they have been slowly filling in on the right as you
Feb 8, 2024, 8:16 AM
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As Eddie said "Bingo".....
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Athletic Dir [1126]
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Re: You mean like all that land they have been slowly filling in on the right as you
Feb 8, 2024, 12:50 PM
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Why? Why indeed Spud. Two reasons and they're both about the money. Hospitals got (still get?) funding for Covid related patients. Here's the other part, so did I!
My mother passed away 2 years ago. She was 83 and suffering from dementia. She got to the point where she wasn't eating and slowly passed away. At 83, she smoked just about every day since she was a teenager and at the time of her (and surprise to every doctor that examined her) death was on absolutely no prescription drugs of any kind. 3 months before she passed, we were looking into assisted living and just about to move her into the Presbyterian home in Easley when she fell and broke her hip. Doctors said she may not survive the surgery, but did. As she was about to be released, she tested positive for Covid and spent another 10 days in the hospital. At that time we cancelled the assisted living arrangements and set her up with Hospice. But they could not take her until she had a negative test. Which she did and spent about a week to 10 days at Hospice until she passed. On the death certificate Covid-19 was listed as a cause (one of) of death.
My sister was livid. I wasn't surprised and asked her what difference does it make at this point. She told me that if Covid is listed as the cause of death, FEMA pays for the burial. My mother was cremated and she was buried next to my father at a cost of around $900. All of which was reimbursed by FEMA.
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Clemson Icon [24892]
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Tell 'em chicken little
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The sky is falling and the Chinese are winning
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110%er [3930]
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How much as the average LOW & HIGH tide level risen since 1983?
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:52 AM
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3”? 6”? >12”?
Essentially, what I am asking is HOW HIGH has the sea level changed in Charleston harbor?
I’m seriously curious about this.
If official records are showing that the average LOW & HIGH tide levels have risen 15” in the last 10 years, with a trend line that showed the next 15 years will result in another 20” rise in sea level, THEN, I would be seriously concerned.
A sea level rise of almost 3’ in 25 years would be SERIOUSLY concerning.
Can you point to some oceanic study or hard evidence supporting some of my “conjectures” noted above?
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Re: How much as the average LOW & HIGH tide level risen since 1983?
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Feb 9, 2024, 1:43 PM
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Would the fact that most of Peninsular Charleston is built on landfill make it more susceptible to rising sea levels? There’s no bedrock under most of it. When I was there ‘75-‘79 the area from my backyard on Gadsden St to the Ashley River & from City Marina to the Coast Guard station had numerous homes condemned due to settling into the marsh. Piling multistory buildings and other concrete & asphalt structures built on mud dredged from the harbor and the detritus of 350 yrs of white habitation might have something to do with “rising sea levels”.
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Good resp - interesting note about land sinkage from that web site
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Feb 7, 2024, 4:20 PM
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...that "land sinkage" was the largest contributor to the rise of sea levels.
I did not expect to see this as the primary contributor. Did you?
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Orange Elite [5417]
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Re: Good resp - interesting note about land sinkage from that web site
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Feb 7, 2024, 6:50 PM
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I visited it an old prison in Charleston about 10 years ago that was once used in the 18th century. It’s near the water and the land has sunk so much that the street is a couple of feet above the bars. Land subsidence is a real thing.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:56 AM
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The sandhills from Augusta thru Cootville to Fayetteville used to be Myrtle Beach for 300 of the last 500 million years.
I used to get sharks teeth frown the big hills by the irrigation pond at my grandfather’s farm near Lake City in Florence County.
High tides in Charleston, please.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 8:30 AM
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God is in control.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 12:21 PM
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He needs to get control of these hurricanes and tornadoes.
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 7:06 AM
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lol that’s an easy way to ignore the conversation
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 8:35 AM
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😂 😂
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Dynasty Maker [3110]
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Interesting! First time I have heard a peep about this!
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Feb 7, 2024, 8:57 AM
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Everyone in Charleston must have drowned.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:02 AM
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Climate has been changing since the world wide flood...it will continue until Jesus returns
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Re: Climate change
Feb 7, 2024, 12:21 PM
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What's he waiting for?
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 12:42 PM
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You!!!!!!
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 12:56 PM
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I am more curious about what happened to all the freshwater fish if the global flood was salt water, or what happened to all the saltwater fish if the flood was fresh water. it keeps me up at night Because I know Noah did not have enough space for aquariums. And don't get me started on the insects.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 4:58 PM
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There were no saltwater fish at the time.
Earth was too young for the seas to have become salty.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 8:53 PM
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I believe the fossil record would suggest otherwise. There are marine life fossils in the sedimentary rock of the world, even at elevations as high as the Himilayas? I am fairly certain I have read this? Now what would marine life be doing up on the top of the Himalayas, a great flood notwithstanding? You are correct I believe that the pre-flood seas would've been less salty than the post-flood seas. That seems counter-intuitive, but the great exposure to elements and likely great mixing would've made the seas salty. I have read that. Saltwater and freshwater can stay chemically stratified for very long periods, saltwater being more dense. The existence of anadromous and catadromous species and the ability of osmotic regulation in some species is interesting as it relates to this question. Like or similar species in fresh and salt (catfishes) is also interesting.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 8:45 PM
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I cannot help you on the aquarium pondering. But the agnostic is better not to argue against a great flood given the overwhelming evidence in sedimentology, marine life fossils found routinely on the highest mountains of the world, mass fossil graveyards in sedimentary rock, sedimentary rock making up 75% of the earth's surface, deposition of rock materials hundreds of miles from where those rocks occur, Black Sea shoreline hundreds of feet deep and carbon dating to Noah's time, compelling geologic evidence in China. Man I could go on for days. Aquariums or not there WAS a great flood.
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Rival Killer [2842]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 12:57 PM
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Maybe….
But that doesn’t prove that one man built a boat and took 2 of every creature and survived this flood and then those animals blossomed into the plethora of life we see today.
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If water covered the entire planet, where is all that water now?***
Feb 9, 2024, 11:19 AM
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Re: If water covered the entire planet, where is all that water now?***
Feb 11, 2024, 5:19 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XXGJXLzzOdk
I am not saying this conforms with my beliefs but interesting things to ponder. (No pics!)
Specifically I tend to be an old earth Christian. Micro evolution is absolutely real. Macro evolution (origin of the species) theory is very implausible.
If you eliminate the deep ocean trenches there’s enough water on earth to cover the entire earth at 1.5 miles deep!! Wow. Staggering to think about. Timing of continental drift etc. interesting stuff. So much we do not know and will never know conclusively. I’ll tell you one thing though, the supernatural God and Jesus are real. I can’t prove good to you but He has proven Himself to me.
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 7:08 AM
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Why will it stop when Jesus returns? What is Jesus’ ideal status for the climate before he comes to lock it in?
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:07 AM
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Climate been changing since the world began and will continue to do so whether humans cease to exist or not...there was more CO2 on the planet before humans ever walked on it
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:43 PM
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Great point, and what's funny - and shows you just how stupid and ignorant the sheep that believe the BS are - their handlers have convinced them that CO2 is bad, haha, that alone tells you how reffing stupid these sheep are...not a thought of their own. Sad.
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Al Gore says it is a planetary emergency..
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:10 AM
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Of course, Al Gore’s Doomsday Clock said the world be gone years ago.
Liberal Democrats ultimately destroy everything they control.
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Re: Al Gore says it is a planetary emergency..
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:13 AM
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You are dawg fan which makes this tough, but I am in 100% agreement with you here
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Re: Al Gore says it is a planetary emergency..
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Feb 9, 2024, 8:19 AM
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Tisk, Tisk. You are being kind by calling them Liberal Democrats when in actuality they are Communist.
Remember, we were told, at the WEF in 2016 by Ida Auken that "you will own nothing and you will be happy". The climate movement plays a large part in making this happen.
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-forever." Orwell 1984.
Message was edited by: Purple Gunstock 15®
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 11:37 AM
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Well, the midlands used to be beachfront property…
The climate does one thing consistently, that’s change. People will adjust to change. Or not.
Nothing we do will stop the climate from changing.
That said, polluters should be held to account and more eco-friendly ways of doing things should be pursued, but not because of a false belief that it will reverse climate change. We should do better because we all like clean water and air…
HTH
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 11:38 AM
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I’m 70. In the 1960’s we were taught to fear the coming Ice Age. In the 1980’s it was global warming. Now the alarmists just call it climate change so they can strike fear when just about anything happens such as a flood, hurricane, or tornado.
It’s all brainwashing, which is surprisingly easy to do, so that the powers that be can control large swaths of people.
There may be climate change. After all, the poles were once tropical. Climate changes all the time. It changes four times a year where I live. The real question is whether it’s caused by man. I think very, very little.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:45 PM
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Ding Ding Ding...finally another person with common sense and the ability to critical think. Well, considering this scenario and the sheep out there, thinking at all is clearly rare. So bravo! Good to see.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 11:40 AM
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Cyclic
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 5:21 PM
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If it is really CO2 then why don't they rip it naturally...don't want to...if fixed they would have no more reason for pipe dreams (pot) and destroy existing monetary systems...Chinese and Indians don't pay them much attention! Phytoplankton can sequester all the CO2 they can produce!
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Orange Blooded [4083]
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Roper Hospital is already leaving the peninsula because of flooding.
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Feb 7, 2024, 11:44 AM
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When (not if) MUSC moves off the peninsula, it will be a seismic change to downtown.
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Re: Roper Hospital is already leaving the peninsula because of flooding.
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Feb 7, 2024, 12:59 PM
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When I lived there in 1985 it used to flood there at every high tide when it was raining. Water would be bubbling out of the sewers. Charleston has made a lot of changes which have helped over the years, but there's no stopping mother nature (just ask New Orleans).
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Re: Roper Hospital is already leaving the peninsula because of flooding.
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:49 PM
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I lived in Charleston in 1967. Every time it rained, East Bay was flooded.
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Re: Roper Hospital is already leaving the peninsula because of flooding.
Feb 9, 2024, 12:39 PM
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True. Roper Hosp was originally downtown between Ashley River & Colonial Lake. Moved to Peninsula location in the 80’s (I think) to get into the North Charleston market. Climate change had nothing to do with the move. Besides we were being told then that we were headed for another ice age and sea levels were dropping to leave Charleston high & dry and destroy the coastal economy….not…
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Orange Blooded [2466]
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Man cannot control climate. Unless you can control the sun. Good luck***
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Re: Man cannot control climate. Unless you can control the sun. Good luck***
Feb 7, 2024, 1:00 PM
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Or the oceans.
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Orange Elite [5238]
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Re: Man cannot control climate. Unless you can control the sun. Good luck***
Feb 11, 2024, 4:46 PM
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The oceans were created by the Global Flood btw.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 11:53 AM
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I thought it was called "Global Warming." Why the name change?
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 12:46 PM
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While some places will see higher temps a few places may see colder temps and a change in rainfall. Hence climate change
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 1:01 PM
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Hahahaha!!!
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 8:30 AM
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You must remember in the Communist playbook, if a movement begins to loose momentum they repurpose, rebrand and rename the cause.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 12:04 PM
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Fun fact - the climate has always and will always change
Some do believe that they have the power of a god and can control natures climate by making simple rules yet failing to follow them. Good luck on letting something you have ZERO control over scare you
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:30 PM
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Blasphemy! Blasphemy! You must be brought before the climate tribunal and convicted as a heretic and given your just punishment!! Burn him, burn him, burn him at the stake.
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Orange Beast [6575]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 1:08 PM
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Given that the moon’s gravitational pull is the largest influence on tides on Earth I might focus my research and interest on a minuscule decay in the moon’s orbit around the Earth as a possible cause for a couple inches in tide level variations through the decades.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 2:42 PM
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Hmmmm....????
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 1:12 PM
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Just keep wearing your mask and getting your boosters. Everything will be ok.
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Re: Climate change
Feb 11, 2024, 3:44 PM
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404 you td this post. How many mask do you wear? Let me guess, several over your nose, several over your mouth and several over your eyes. How many jabs have you had? Four/six and counting?
I recommend that you remove the ones over your eyes that you may see the truth.
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Of course, that is an attempt to claim univariate causation...
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Feb 15, 2019, 9:50 PM
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...by ignoring multivariate factors.
Shallower depth of the harbor and rivers from silting.
Changing land mass from silting, dredging, beach erosion from tides, paving over places that used to a dirt water, etc.
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All-American [570]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:31 PM
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OMG, there are still sheep out there buying the globalist BS. LOL...you probably also think "covid" was an actual pandemic, or for that matter, that it actually existed - all facts and stats prove it was a scam and hoax ,even the CDC has admitted as such. Silly sheep. Just like "global warming", there's zero actual scientific evidence proving this to be the case, just like covid.
Time to wake up sheepy sheep.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:48 PM
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My solution is if the climate is changing and causing all of these problems, then adapt. If you have a home on the ocean, get rid of it and move further inland.
Do you think when the ice bridge from Russia to Alaska melted a million immigrants were caught walking across it to get to the promised land? Heck no. Climate has cycles and we are going through one now and with no ability to stop it.
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Orange Beast [6548]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 3:57 PM
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God is in control. If God didn't want fossil fuels He wouldn't of put billions of barrels in the earth. He also gave man the ability of creating ways to use them. The earth has a expiration date and only God knows when that is.
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If God didn't want kids to die from cancer, he wouldn't have given it to them
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Feb 7, 2024, 4:01 PM
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Is that how it works? How do you know the devil didn't put those billions of barrels of fossil fuels in the ground to trick human beings into destroying the planet and themselves?
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: If God didn't want kids to die from cancer, he wouldn't have given it to them
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Feb 7, 2024, 4:10 PM
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Thought your best bud Biden was going to cure cancer. Good luck. I bet he pees on his foot every time he goes to the bathroom after someone shows him where it is.
BTW GOD does not give people cancer. Cancer is a result and all other diseases because of the fall of man in the Garden of Eden. Suggested Reading material, John 3:16.
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I just read it, but I didn't see anything about cancer or fossil fuels***
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Feb 7, 2024, 4:17 PM
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Re: I just read it, but I didn't see anything about cancer or fossil fuels***
Feb 7, 2024, 4:29 PM
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Maybe one day you will see the light.
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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I was hoping for a real response, not a condescending cliche
Feb 7, 2024, 4:44 PM
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I guess that means there isn't anything in the Bible about cancer or fossil fuels after all? If you'd been born in some other part of the world, most likely you'd be following Islam or Hinduism or whatever and you'd be just as confident that it was the one true religion.
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Re: Climate change
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Yep. Only ignorant, arrogant fools think humans can destroy something they didn't made.
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 12:43 PM
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No GOD put us in control...how that working...we continue to vote for the godless basta*rd*!
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 4:39 PM
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I grew up on Johns Island in the 1960s and 70s and I have a brother and 2 sisters who still live on the same property there. The property tends to hold more water for longer periods after a rainfall event than it used to but it is because so much of the area around them that used to be wetlands is now covered with asphalt or concrete. This has nothing to do with the levels of the salt water around them or any type of climate change but is certainly man-made because of the amount of building that has occurred on the island. What I do find somewhat amazing is that they are building so many homes on low-lying land that would have never been approved for building 50 years ago. They are also building in areas that will be prone to pretty extreme flooding if another hurricane similar to Hugo were to hit there.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 5:46 PM
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This is exactly the issue but a big reason they wouldn't build on a lot of land like that before is the land would not perc. Now that there are public utilities in a lot of those areas it doesn't matter.
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 4:48 PM
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Yes of course its real. Just ask Greta and algore. Meanwhile its winter and its cold.
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Re: Climate change
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Poor little Greta with her un-made face, stringy hair and general appearance of being poor and destitute. What a fraud, she was raised in a very affluent environment never wanting or needing anything. She has already inherited over 10 million from her family and has a net worth north of 20 million. I guess you could call her a child of " white privilege"....
So, she being a foot solider of Marxism, if they manage to collapse the system and take ours, do you think for one second she will give up hers.
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Legend [6983]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 7, 2024, 4:49 PM
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What is the cause? Natural cycle? Carbon emissions?
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Lots of things. Variations in the orbit of the earth, the tilt, solar flares, etc. And people actually believe they have the slightest impact on these things.
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All-American [554]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 4:54 PM
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CO2 is the gas of life. Only haters think thats bad.
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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Try breathing pure CO2 and let us know how it goes***
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Feb 7, 2024, 4:57 PM
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: Try breathing pure CO2 and let us know how it goes***
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Feb 7, 2024, 8:44 PM
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On the third day God created trees and all kinds of other green things that take in CO2 and thrive on it. Funny though they give off a by-product of their consumption called OXYGEN!
Shazam, the joke is on you.
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Starter [297]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 5:03 PM
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Doesn’t exist.
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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Well, that settles it. I guess we're done here***
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Game Day Hero [4431]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 5:25 PM
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It is real. I just don’t believe humans play as big of a roll in the cause of it as the government insists. I definitely don’t agree with over regulating everything in an attempt to stop it.
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Orange Blooded [2122]
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None of those numbers mean anything. There are hundreds of variables not accounted for. Why were those two particular years chosen? How many flood events in 2022? 1923? 1919? How has the topography changed in the surrounding area since then? Were low-lying wetlands and drainage areas filled in since then? Were the areas that were recorded flooded in 2023 inhabited in 1922 and were these water levels recorded in 1922? The main culprit to increased flooding is poor stormwater management. All of the additional roads, parking lots, roofs, and other impermeable areas send additional runoff into ditches, streams, lakes, and ultimately rivers that ends up overloading waterways and causing flooding.
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Paw Master [17032]
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Glad I have positioned myself at 58 elevation in Ridgeville
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:47 PM
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We had no flood events in 2023.
And even gladder that I will soon be moving to Pickens County and gaining another 1100’.
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All-Pro [752]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:52 PM
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Must have happened in the past as well. I’ve seen seashells and sharks teeth in the midlands of SC. Also saw massive valleys in Alaska created by glaciers that melted 3000 years ago. The cars they were driving back then must have been cranking out the carbon for real!
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All-TigerNet [5915]
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Re: Climate change
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:54 PM
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....is natural.
The earth warmed and cooled long before we arrived on the scene. We don't have any control over the weather.
That being said, I'd like to nominate China and India as the world's worst and most problematic polluters.
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 11:02 AM
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They get a pass because we consider them "developing nations."
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Feb 7, 2024, 7:55 PM
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Must have happened in the past as well. I’ve seen seashells and sharks teeth in the midlands of SC. Also saw massive valleys in Alaska created by glaciers that melted 3000 years ago. The cars they were driving back then must have been cranking out the carbon for real!
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Redshirt [93]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 3:18 AM
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This is a seashell fossil on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. Elevation ~ 7,000 feet
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110%er [3673]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 6:33 AM
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What was the elevation when the critter died?
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 10:21 AM
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Below sea level.
SMH…
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110%er [3673]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 11:27 AM
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Did the sea fall or the land rise! Just askin'
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Redshirt [93]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 9:21 AM
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The Park Ranger admitted it has been confirmed as a seashell. I don't remember the species. But he had absolutely no clue how it could have possibly gotten there. But he was absolutely sure that it had been there for billons and billons of years. It had to be, because it was found near the marker in the photo. I'm guessing that a dinosaur had dinner on the seashore and ran up 7000 ft to dumped a load.
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 10:46 AM
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Very disappointed that a USFS ranger wouldn’t know the answer because it is generally understood that that part of North America was covered by a large ocean during the Cretaceous period 145-66M years ago during which time there were no polar ice caps, global climate was much warmer & CO2 levels much higher. Yes you will note that was some few years before the internal combustion engine began its relentless destruction of Mother Earth. Subsequently geologic lift and cooling caused the sea floor to rise & the sea levels to fall, putting that fossil on dry land and elevating it to its current resting place 7K feet above sea level.
On the other hand, being a Federal government employee he was probably hired on the basis of his general ignorance of paleontology and geology.
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 12:32 AM
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This thread is littered with nonsense, subjective opinions, BS, hearsay and garbage. Actually pretty funny, but a complete waste of time.
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110%er [3673]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 6:31 AM
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Could man made global warming delay or offset the next Ice Age? Would losing New York, Miami, New Orleans, and Holland be worse than an ice sheet covering 2/3 of North America and Europe? These are the questions I would like to see answered before I buy an electric car.
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Orange Beast [6481]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 7:21 AM
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lol…and electric cars are being proven to not be so good for the environment after all. The energy to extract minerals for batteries is astronomical… and not electric. The grid you are plugging your car in to…what is powering that?
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Orange Beast [6481]
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Feb 8, 2024, 6:57 AM
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The climate has always been changing. It happened before humans, and it will continue after we are gone.
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Rival Killer [3084]
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No factor for me
Feb 8, 2024, 8:21 AM
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I live in the Upstate
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: No factor for me
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Feb 8, 2024, 10:07 AM
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One thing I have learnt in this here thread is if jd404 is fer hit Im agin hit!
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MVP [525]
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Re: No factor for me
Feb 9, 2024, 10:19 AM
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Looking forward to it. I won’t have to drive so far to fish for reds & sea trout
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Clemson Icon [27619]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 8, 2024, 10:24 AM
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A million years ago Mount Everest was under water,
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1st Rounder [642]
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Feb 8, 2024, 10:52 PM
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One of my professors in college was an Astronomy authority. There was a big meeting every year out west and he would be one of the speakers. He wanted everyone to know he came from a college that starts off with 'The' in front of their name.
He said what the hell bound money snatching woke liberals didn't want anyone to know is not only does the earth rotate it also has a wobble that tilts forward and backward. It takes several decades for it to tilt in the forward position which causes warmer temperatures. It then starts tilting back and, after decades, the temps are much cooler. A natural process since God made the earth and nothing the ozone, or man, has to do with it. Just another propaganda scheme thrown out there to rake in tax money thrown toward something that cannot, and will not, be affected by man. Our foolish, gullible, younger generation will believe anything false the left wing crooks scheme up.
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MVP [525]
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Feb 9, 2024, 10:25 AM
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I would like to know this man’s name. He understands orbital precession and Kepler’s law! You won’t learn that in a “liberal arts” curriculum
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 11:07 AM
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Definitely not they have their noses stuck up a cows rear end studying cow farts.
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Commissioner [995]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 10:39 AM
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solar cells surface temp get up to 150 plus degrees ….ground temp with grass never gets that high nor land covered
in trees…..more solar cells more radiated heat
more climate warming….
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 11:26 AM
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Most of NOAA weather stations are located in areas that give distorted readings due to heat retention in their location like roof tops, ac fans, asphalt parking lots etc. Lets say these stations have average temps of 102, urban area stations record temps of 96 and rural areas record temps of 93. Which temp will be reported on the nightly weather report, 102 of course. Are you beginning to get the picture.
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110%er [3673]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 11:30 AM
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How accurate were thermometers in the Jurassic Period?
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Varsity [132]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 1:55 PM
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The climate is ALWAYS changing and always will change. There is not one single shred of empirical scientific evidence that “Humans” are responsible for global warming (climate change). Get over it!
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Varsity [132]
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Feb 9, 2024, 2:00 PM
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The climate is ALWAYS changing and always will change. There is not one single shred of empirical scientific evidence that “Humans” are responsible for global warming (climate change). Get over it!
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Tiger Spirit [9794]
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THE REAL PROBLEM WITH CLIMATE CHANGE
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Climate change is not caused by, nor exacerbated by human activities whatsoever. Climate change occurs at these levels on a cyclical basis due to the Precession of the Equinox and other galactic cycles. The estimated 27,000-year cycle has been the cause of every Ice Age and every major global flood since the beginning of time. Human beings can no more cause harm as they can prevent it. The Earth's current Co2 level in the atmosphere is recorded at 0.04%. To display a comparison, Venus is 800*Fahrenheit with a Co2 level of 96.5%. The average median for Earth is 0.03%, and if those Co2 levels drop to 0.02%, then all plant life begins to die on Earth.
There exists evidence found with the discovery of the frozen Wooly Mammoth. Evidence suggesting that the previous Ice Age which occurred 10,000 years ago, did so rapidly with great effect. The Wooly Mammoth carcass which was uncovered in Siberia was fully preserved as if flash frozen. The more interesting finding was that the last meal of that Mammoth was still preserved in its stomach. The food contents of the stomach consisted of several plant species which are of a tropical climate. Now, I'm not a gambling man, but if I were I would reason to believe that Siberia at one time was a tropical climate. Unless of course, the Wooly Mammoth traveled 3,500 miles every day for lunch. Some studies have discovered that the Earth's median temperature prior to the previous Ice Age was 4*Celsius higher than today's median average. That's a whopping 39* Fahrenheit.
In short, Co2 levels are nowhere near the dangerous levels to create a cause for concern. Yet, political activists will say otherwise and lobby to generate legislation that restricts our personal liberties. What's more disgusting would be the legislation which is passed that requires the consumer to purchase products from companies owned by the said environmental activists and their political cronies. Further, adding a carbon tax, EPA fees, or other penalties will not solve even one environmental crisis. The sad part is that millions of third world nations lose access to their drinking water each year due to lithium mining which poisons the ground well water and causes a real humanitarian crisis. Yet, those facts are not convenient for Greta Thunberg or Al Gore who merely want the appearance of cleanliness and "renewable" energy in the eyes of the masses who live in developed nations. Are we awake yet? No? Good, keep voting. It matters not who you vote for, the tables are tilted in favor of those who hold office and those who hold office tend to be owned by those who fund their campaigns. As for me, I've never voted, and I probably never will until someone who is reasonable with common sense runs for office independently from donors and special interest groups.
As for rising ocean levels... I disagree completely because in Nova Scotia, the shoreline has expanded, and waterlines have receded back towards the ocean by 150 meters in the past 35 years. Ocean levels are not rising whenever new islands are created annually around the world. If anything, seismic activities are causing the ocean floor to rise and fall which creates the appearance of rising or receding water tables.
Just my two cents for what it's worth. GO TIGERS!
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: THE REAL PROBLEM WITH CLIMATE CHANGE
Feb 9, 2024, 4:19 PM
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Hey "Chesty" spot on, but jd404 won't believe it and prolly give you a td. Just remember climate change a cause of the Communist to destroy America!
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Tiger Spirit [9794]
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Re: THE REAL PROBLEM WITH CLIMATE CHANGE
Feb 9, 2024, 5:31 PM
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Hey "Chesty" spot on, but jd404 won't believe it and prolly give you a td. Just remember climate change a cause of the Communist to destroy America!
Message was edited by: Purple Gunstock 15®
I wouldn't argue that it's a communistic plot against the freedoms of America. I would say it's more of a scam to have people buying renewable energy that's not really renewable, cost effective, or efficient enough to support our energy requirements. The only ones who will benefit from the legislative policies are the lobbyists, politicians who own equity in "clean" energy firms, and those who are climate activists that have a special interest or equitable holding in companies marketing worthless technology that amounts to nothing more than a money pit.
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Orange Beast [6454]
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Re: THE REAL PROBLEM WITH CLIMATE CHANGE
Feb 9, 2024, 8:32 PM
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I agree with what you said; however we cannot loose sight of the fact that we are in a battle. The battle is between our Lord God Jehovah and Mammon. Yes, good against evil.
You see those that take on these anti American causes have chosen Communism as their their religion. Marx as their god. The Constitution stands in their way, the Bill of Rights is a detriment to the cause.
The gift our founders gave us is under attack as never before. Our country is one election away from a dark and dreary future.
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110%er [4039]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 9, 2024, 4:41 PM
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Climate is always changing. Some of the coldest and hottest records go back to the 1800’s, before cars and the population and the Industrial Revolution, hmmmmmmmmm
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Hall of Famer [8838]
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Lmfaothe snowflakes are bat
Feb 9, 2024, 8:34 PM
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Crazy!
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Clemson Icon [27380]
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Re: Climate change
Feb 11, 2024, 5:26 PM
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Just now seeing this poast. Did I miss anything?
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