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Can someone with more knowledge breakdown how many of Bama's titles are real?
Jan 9, 2019, 1:49 PM
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A friend of mine and I looked at this recently...
Jan 9, 2019, 2:01 PM
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Bama national titles recognized by the NCAA = 13
Bama national titles recognized by the AP = 10
National titles claimed by the school = 16
Alabama is hardly alone in claiming questionable titles. Other schools have cherry-picked through the years, though few do it quite like Alabama.
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Their fans claims 17***
Jan 9, 2019, 2:02 PM
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Several of them are disputed or shared...
Jan 9, 2019, 2:23 PM
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because the titles were awarded before a bowl game they ended-up losing.
Here is a list of those disputed titles;
1978 — Finished 11-1 after a 14-7 win over Penn State in the Sugar Bowl. A whopping 24 entities picked a national champion that year, and seven chose Alabama. Eight of them chose 11-1 Oklahoma and nine picked 12-1 Southern Cal. The NCAA recognizes Alabama and USC as co-champions.
1973 — Fell to Notre Dame 24-23 in the Sugar Bowl to complete an 11-1 season. Alabama won the title awarded by United Press International and the coaches’ poll, which announced its winner before the bowls. That changed the following season. Notre Dame (11-0) is the NCAA’s recognized champion, but Michigan, Ohio State and Oklahoma were all awarded titles by various entities.
1965 — Defeated Nebraska 39-28 in the Orange Bowl to complete a 9-1-1 season. Four entities awarded the national title to Alabama, but another 12 favored 10-1 Michigan State. The NCAA recognizes them as co-champions.
1964 — Lost to Texas 24-17 in the Orange Bowl to complete a 10-1 season. Four entities, including both major media polls, awarded the national title to Alabama, but did the final vote before the bowl games. That changed after this incident. Arkansas (11-0) and Notre Dame (9-1) are recognized as champions by the NCAA along with Alabama. Michigan (9-1) was one entity’s choice as champion as well.
1941 — Defeated Texas A&M 29-21 in the Cotton Bowl to complete a 9-2 season. The Houlgate System chose the Tide as its champion. The NCAA recognizes Minnesota (8-0) as the champion, as did 11 entities that season. Texas (8-1-1) was the choice of two other organizations.
1934 — Defeated Stanford 29-13 in the Rose Bowl to complete a 10-0 season. Five entities awarded the national title to Alabama, but another eight favored 8-0 Minnesota. The NCAA recognizes Minnesota as champion.
1930 — Defeated Washington State 24-0 in the Rose Bowl to complete a 10-0 season. Four entities awarded the national title to Alabama, but another eight favored 10-0 Notre Dame. The NCAA recognizes the Irish as champion.
1926 — Tied Stanford 7-7 in the Rose Bowl to complete a 9-0-1 season. Six entities awarded the national title to Alabama, but another four favored 10-0-1 Stanford. To add to the confusion, Navy (9-0-1), Michigan (7-1) and Lafayette (9-0) can also claim titles.
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When you say NCAA "recognizes," what do you mean?***
Jan 9, 2019, 2:33 PM
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I mean...
Jan 9, 2019, 2:36 PM
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the NCAA record books reflects Bama as champion or co-champion.
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I'm looking at the record book right now...
Jan 9, 2019, 2:43 PM
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I see Alabama listed in every single one of those years.
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For example, you say in 1934,
Jan 9, 2019, 2:45 PM
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the NCAA recognizes Minnesota. In the record book I am looking at, it says this:
1934
Alabama: Berryman, Dunkel, Houlgate, Poling, Williamson
Minnesota: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Football Research, Helms, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, Sagarin, Sagarin (ELO-Chess)
Which part of the record book are you referring to?
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I mean, there's not an "official" title for the NCAA
Jan 9, 2019, 2:13 PM
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So schools can say whatever they want to say, and people can agree or disagree, doesn't matter.
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We had a perfect 1948 season ... UCF fans say that = TITLE!***
Jan 9, 2019, 2:22 PM
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UCF's laughable claim stems from thinking the Pythagorean
Jan 9, 2019, 2:26 PM
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theorem relates to college football.
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In my experience, UCF grads can't spell "Pythagorean"***
Jan 9, 2019, 2:33 PM
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Re: Can someone with more knowledge breakdown how many of Bama's titles are real?
Jan 9, 2019, 2:22 PM
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I compiled this from NCAA.com a while back and Bama isnt near as dominant as they want to appear. Many of their claimed titles are shared at best
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1900 too....undefeated baby! Heisman whoop!***
Jan 9, 2019, 2:29 PM
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Re: Can someone with more knowledge breakdown how many of Bama's titles are real?
Jan 9, 2019, 2:30 PM
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Also UGA has ONE.
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