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But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year
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But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:05 PM

https://rubbingtherock.com/2022/12/14/clemson-football-offense-2022-2021/#:~:text=When%20we%20compare%20that%20to,the%20Top%2010%20in%202022.

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Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:06 PM

https://rubbingtherock.com/2022/12/13/clemson-football-defense-2022-2021/

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Why don't you just go ahead and make a post:

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:17 PM

"I'm a coot troll and I hate Clemson football!
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Re: Why don't you just go ahead and make a post:

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:25 PM

I hate our delusional fans. How am I the bad guy for pointing out the obvious here? You need to go talk to the people who are trying to throw our entire offense under the bus for last year’s defensive woes. nobody cares to stick up for the offense because Dj and streeter aren’t here anymore but they won’t dare criticize the defense because we still have the coach from last year. That’s all this #### is.

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Aug 21, 2023, 7:41 PM

We hate you right back lmfao if we are this bad then why even follow 😂😂

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Re: Why don't you just go ahead and make a post:


Aug 22, 2023, 10:56 AM [ in reply to Re: Why don't you just go ahead and make a post: ]

When the offense can't do the job the defense has to spend extra time on the field...some of our problems in big games come from the stupid application of the targeting rule! Certain refs saw a chance to unlevel the field...OSU game for one...don't keep blaming Streeter cause Dabo had a fetish over DJ...he never really earned a starting QB spot but Dabo gave him one anyway! DJ was terrible his first year and a little less terrible his second...no D can survive that for ever. FSU is not out of the Woods(Peter) yet!

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Re: Why don't you just go ahead and make a post:

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:29 PM [ in reply to Why don't you just go ahead and make a post: ]

The bottom line is our fans on TigerNet are always going to stick up for the current players and coaches and the hell with the former coaches and players. This is the exact same thing that happened for years under Monty Lee when everybody defended him like he was some god just because he was a Clemson coach even though me, and all the baseball know it all’s new he was a dud. As soon as Monte was fired, everybody hated him and couldn’t wait to blame him for everything.

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Trust me, I do not stick up for current Basketball coach.

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:38 PM

Hope that helps.

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Aug 22, 2023, 9:49 AM [ in reply to Re: Why don't you just go ahead and make a post: ]



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The last two years were disappointing, and we can argue

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:18 PM

about the causes until the cows come home and it won't change a thing. Just be glad that it's behind us, and it's 2023 with some exciting new players and coaches, as well as some highly talented veterans, ready to take a step forward.

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Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:24 PM

So you start a new thread on the same subject. You just joined in February and now that the season is upon us, you're showing your true feathers more.

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Clemson doesn't care about basketball....as evidenced by Brown-L getting 14 years.


Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:27 PM

Yes, it’s easier to start another thread with those two stat lines, instead of putting it down a thread on page 2 where it will get buried. Is that all you have to say? you have nothing to say in response to the statistical differences I’ve provided for you from 2021 to 2022?

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Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year


Aug 21, 2023, 4:28 PM

I'm not going to argue with an idiot that has posts suggesting you're going to be pulling against us. This could've been added to the thread you have 2nd line down. You're no Clemson fan.

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Clemson doesn't care about basketball....as evidenced by Brown-L getting 14 years.


Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:29 PM

OK enjoy your day

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Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year


Aug 21, 2023, 4:32 PM

Enjoy your BS before the first game has even been played. Your tone in some posts shows that you're hoping our team fails so you can say I told you so. You're not a Clemson fan and I hope your days here are numbered.

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Clemson doesn't care about basketball....as evidenced by Brown-L getting 14 years.


Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:33 PM

So you do want to argue? Ok….
I would love nothing more than to be wrong, and watch us win another national championship. Like I said, there are things that you want to happen and then there’s what you think is going to happen.

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Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year


Aug 21, 2023, 4:47 PM

You're predicting this team to go 9-3 in the regular season. You want so bad to for that to happen so you can say I told you so.

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Clemson doesn't care about basketball....as evidenced by Brown-L getting 14 years.


Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year

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Aug 21, 2023, 6:47 PM

Not even a little bit. I would much rather come back here and have you bowl hunter tell me that you told me so because then that would mean we had more success than I think we’re going to have.

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Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year


Aug 21, 2023, 4:45 PM

I was excited about this upcoming season, but after reading this and learning that we are going 0-12, I guess I will just wait on basketball season.....

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Re: But let’s blame the offense for the defensive woes last year

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:47 PM

These are statistical comparisons from two years ago to last season that has no bearing on this year

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Aug 21, 2023, 7:40 PM

Stats don’t always tell the true story and yes the O sucked don’t know of any other way to put it.

Take the fluff games out of the equation.

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Re: The only thing that bothers me

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Aug 21, 2023, 4:52 PM

from last year was the loss to the "dirtpeckers". WE were up 23-14 at halftime then get outscored 17-7 in the 2nd half was a unbelievable. Between DJ not able to hit a Bull in the butt at 5 yards to taking the ball out of Ships hands was a monumental mistake. The lose to Notre Dame can be accepted, they just whipped the Tigers as well as Tennessee in the bowl game. Yes, am glad last year is behind and hoping not to be the edge of the seat till the end of game like last year. Will be looking forward to consistency and not taking the foot off the gas until a game is over. Now spot the ball.

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Aug 21, 2023, 8:04 PM



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The articles you’ve posted don’t even prove your point


Aug 22, 2023, 10:13 AM

You claim that the defense took a massive step back last year but really they only allowed 15 more yards per game and half a yard per play more. The defense was still top 25 in most major categories.

In fact you could make an argument Clemson defense was better situationally in 2022 than 2021. Clemson held opponents on third down more often and forced more turnovers per game. The one stat you could reasonably point at is points per game moved from 15.8 to 20.8. And even that is less than 3 touchdowns.

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An offense that can't stay on the field and sustain drives


Aug 22, 2023, 10:21 AM

wears on the defense during the course of a game and season.

The defense was quite good last year given the task at hand.

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