Re: Are the people who are currently refusing to wear masks

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Aug 14, 2020, 3:46 PM

I don't refuse to wear one - I have one in my car to wear as needed, but I think it's more often than not rather pointless. I've been in Barnes & Noble with no one within 20ft of me, much less 6ft of me. I've been in Wal-Mart with the same, but then in line people are still 2ft apart just like normal and think the mask completely removes the need to social distance, even though they're wearing theirs beneath their nose. I've been in restaurants where the servers are wearing them beneath their nose or even beneath their mouths.

No matter where I am, whether masked or not, I try to respect others around me and keep a healthy distance. I think it's a reasonable precaution and I'm ok with social distancing. If I'm in a congested environment where social distancing isn't practical, then I'm not opposed to a mask, but I don't wear one if it's not necessary or required, especially when half or more of the employees don't even wear them correctly.

I don't shy away from telling people my take on this. There are many articles that have said that this virus is here to stay and will not be going away - not in the spring, not next summer, not next year. Other pandemic viruses remained, and this one is expected to as well. There is no vaccine yet, and none are on the horizon. The best bet at this point is to let the virus work its way through the community through those who are generally healthy and especially younger (not me - I'm 50!) so that some herd immunity can develop.

I don't ridicule those who wear masks (well, maybe those who do so alone in the car!) because everyone has strong opinions about this. Likewise, I don't like being ridiculed about my opinion, but that's the world these days, so who cares. But my personal thought on all the mandates is that the government is seeing the concern people have over this, stoked by the incessant media reporting, and want to respond. Politicians don't like real solutions that may take time. They like quick patches that make it look like they're doing something. This is just another example of that, in my opinion. Wearing masks won't hurt, and it may "slow the spread," but it will NOT stop the spread and will not fully protect anyone.

I had a friend who died after testing positive back in July, 47 years old, wore a mask every day at work. He worked as a nurse at a nursing home. He tested positive and approx 2 weeks later was dead. Did the mask keep him from contracting it for a while? Maybe. Who knows. But NONE of the masks you see out in public day in and day out will stop the virus. They MAY stop particulates (spittle, coughs, etc), but that's it. I liken it to the old lap belts we had in the cars that really didn't do much except make you think it would help.

I will use my good judgement to protect myself and will respect those who choose to wear masks. If someone is more vulnerable, by all means wear a mask, or better yet, stay home. That's the most sure bet. Other than that, we need to accept that it's not going anywhere, masks and time won't kill it, and we need to live our lives and get the herd immunity built up, which is the most effective way of killing it. Just my 2 cents.

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The entire discussion is silly and trivial, but since we're helpless to do anything meaningful, let's discuss something trivial and silly and trivial. Again.

Of course we SHOULD wear masks, for the little benefit they bring, unless you have a legitimate medical reason NOT to.

After six months, we now finally realize what masks are good for, and what they're not. They don't cure the disease. They don't keep me healthy. They don't put workers back to work. They DO restrict my breathing. They do give me headaches if i don't change it regularly or find a private place to take it off. They do hide my identity from even my closest friends. They may keep me from infecting myself by touch.

But this discussion is trivial because 1) Gosh, is this the biggest thing we can attempt to agree on anymore? On Tigernet? Really?

2) It's silly to go to so much trouble to mandate mask-wearing when the masks many people wear are only 1.5% effective. That's 98.5% INeffective. And you want to put the force of LAW behind this? If you're going to punish people for not wearing a mask, at least require it be as effective as a Face Shield.

3) I find it really, really, really disrespectful to trash the police as racists, mock them for being powerless, take advantage of their unwillingness to stop protests, defund them and blame them for the racial problems in our urban areas--and then look to them to save us from ourselves by enforcing a mask mandate. Does anyone really expect this mandate to be enforced fairly? Who trusts the cops to perform this vital service to humanity? You know there's gonna be quotas to be met! And the jokes will write themselves about Left-wing politicians who finally find a reason for the police to exist--we've gotta make sure the kids on the playground wear masks, Officer!

Sure, I wear a mask when i'm not outside. About 80% of us do, by my count.

But those of you who really believe this pandemic has gone away in the places where masks are overwhelmingly worn are using obsolete data. This virus is surging all around the globe, masks or not. Keeping a virus suppressed is about like keeping 6 of your daughter's floaties underwater at the same time--maybe you can find a way to do it, but you'll lose it when you resume any normal activities.

Wearing a mask in public is a small price to pay if it gets the Social media/Morality police to shut up. Once we demonstrate some good faith, we'll find out if those "I get my jollies by pretending i'm your mom" folks are willing to discuss more serious problems.

OTOH, that might be why so many people refuse to wear the mask--because once they do, they'll get nagged about something else. Equally trivial and useless.

Are the people who are currently refusing to wear masks

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Just stop with this nonsense.

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Wait, so lockdowns are bad for the economy?

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