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Does Brad
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Use the portal again this offseason to fill in some gaps assuming PJ and Chase aren’t coming back?
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Re: Does Brad
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In Brad we trust..... Master of the Portal.
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Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
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This is what every successful, motivated coach should be doing.
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Re: Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
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Mar 6, 2024, 1:00 PM
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But Dabo is also a successful coach and doesn’t need to use it.
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Re: Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
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Mar 6, 2024, 1:21 PM
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But Dabo is also a successful coach and doesn’t need to use it.
It remains to be seen if Dabo can finish top 4 in the era of the portal without using it.
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Re: Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
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It remains to be seen if Brad can finish a season ranked at all while using it.
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Re: Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
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It remains to be seen if Brad can finish a season ranked at all while using it.
You Tell’em new guy. Guess you have not had time to compare our football vs basketball history. Once you are around a little longer perhaps you can understand the differences
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Re: Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
Mar 6, 2024, 6:16 PM
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Why would you say that when this very year we have a good chance to finish top 4 in ACC?
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Re: Yes Dabo does need to use it.
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The portal has had nothing to do with three top 20 finishes vs
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Mar 6, 2024, 4:55 PM
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our 6 year playoff run.
It was all about play from the QB spot. Not the portal.
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Tiger Titan [46606]
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The portal has QBs in it.
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Mar 6, 2024, 11:14 PM
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If the coaches felt we were weak at the QB spot, they could have looked there for an answer. They didn’t, and it was to their detriment.
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So the portal was responsible for bad offensive coaching?
Mar 7, 2024, 12:40 AM
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Not Elliott, Streeter, or Austin?
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Re: Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
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Mar 6, 2024, 1:25 PM
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We have one coach (porkchop) who has to use the portal bc he can't recruit HS players nationally and is a 14 year loser with zero hardware to show for his tenure
We have another coach who recruits top talent from all over the country out of highschool, has won 2 National Championships and 8 ACC championships as well as multiple coach of the year awards.....he uses the portal sparingly
I think I'll go with the second guys advice on how to recruit
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Re: Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
Mar 6, 2024, 1:39 PM
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To be fair, the portal wasn’t around for the majority of Dabo’s accolades. I still think Dabo can compete nationally without the portal, but it seems unnecessary to handicap ourselves.
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Re: Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
Mar 6, 2024, 1:43 PM
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And before anyone gets offended, none of this is a slam on Dabo. Since the portal started Dabo still has more accolades than Brad.
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Of course he does, he has a privileged job that affords him everything
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he could possibly need or want to be successful.
He has a distinct advantage over the overwhelming majority of the teams we play when it comes to program history, program funding, fan support, etc. Brad has none of that, so of course Brad isn't going to have nearly that level of success. No previous Clemson basketball coach has either. That's how it works at a school that put most of its eggs in the football basket generations ago and beats its chest for being a "footbawl skewl."
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Re: Of course he does, he has a privileged job that affords him everything
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Re: Brad has every single thing he needs and has for most of his
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I think you're the wrong one here
Mar 7, 2024, 12:42 AM
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Brad has a larger salary than Hubert Davis, who has done a lot more with less.
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To be fair, Hubert's job is considerably easier...I doubt a lot of candidates
Mar 7, 2024, 12:49 AM
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turn down UNC...We had a future ACC coach tell us "no thank you" for an interview
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Well, look at Alabama. They put all of their eggs in the football basket
Mar 7, 2024, 12:47 AM
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And they've been super successful since they hired Nate Oats. They haven't had a historic program, like us, with only 1 Elite 8 apperance and no national championships. Their previous coaches were super inconsistent, like Brad, and once the AD decided he had enough with mediocrity, they made it to the tourney 3 years in a row as a pretty high seed.
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Coach BroWnell has signed two four stars and a great legacy
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He can recruit both ways -- high school and develop (Sims, Tyson, Hall, Hunter) or he can go to the portal. It's not a competition with football. I know JK gets you numb nuts all fired up when he takes a shot at football. Football will always be king at Clemson. That's great. Be happy. And the capital W is intentional. The W is for win -- 44 wins the last two seasons.
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Coach BrowneLL
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Corrected it for you
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Re: Absolutely. We will use it every year to address needs.
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Again. A cheap shot at and insinuation that you know how to coach better than the most successful football coach in Clemson history. Troll.
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It is obvious to anyone with an IQ above 70 that using the portal makes sense
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Mar 6, 2024, 11:20 PM
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because it significantly increases the pool of players from which to build a roster.
More players = greater potential for talent = higher likelihood of winning games.
This isn’t rocket science. No one needs to be the Clemson head football coach to realize it. In fact, the other 133 head coaches in the FBS realize and use it. Dabo doesn’t. Do you honestly think he knows something they don’t, and they are all wrong?
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Dabo also finished no. 20 this year despite a "down year"
Mar 7, 2024, 12:51 AM
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Something that 123 other teams couldn't do with the portal.
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Dabo already told Brad
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to stop using the portal.
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Dabo probably did. It's making Dabo look bad.***
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Re: Dabo probably did. It's making Dabo look bad.***
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Brad is having one of our best seasons in program history.
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He hasn’t looked bad very much this year.
Meanwhile, Dabo is coming off yet another disappointing one where we underachieved.
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Re: Brad is having one of our best seasons in program history.
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Ever notice how bad you look when you discuss other Clemson coaches not named Brownell? I’m not going to stoop to your level, but Coach B has had his moments this year.
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Brad has underachieved so much during his tenure at Clemson
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That a 10-loss season, with multiple losses to sub .500 teams like Notre Dame and Georgia Tech, is considered one of our best seasons in program history.
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That sounds like more of a Clemson Basketball history problem than a Brad
Mar 7, 2024, 1:22 AM
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Re: Does Brad
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We might be ok with our guards and forwards, but I could see him going after a big guy.
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Why would we be okay with our guards?
Do you think if Chase leaves and Girard is gone the guards on the roster who basically don't play can take over and play at the same level?
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Re: Does Brad
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We returned over 60% of our offensive production from last year. Joe Girard alone has replaced more than half of that lot production. Unless Chase Hunter or PJ Hall comeback we’re going to be trying to convince transfers to come to a program returning about 35% of its production. The last time we returned that level of production we went one game over .500 and finished 9th in the conference.
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Re: Does Brad
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Unfortunately he won’t have PJ Hall to use to pull as well from the portal as he has the last two seasons. Do we think Girard came because of Brownell’s magnetic personality?
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Re: Does Brad
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That and being the winningest coach at Clemson.
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Re: Does Brad
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User Logo viztiz® Legend [15779] TigerPulse: 100% Posts: 10218 Joined: 1/26/07 Re: Does Brad Mar 6, 2024, 1:20 PM [ in reply to Does Brad ] Reply
Unfortunately he won’t have PJ Hall to use to pull as well from the portal as he has the last two seasons. Do we think Girard came because of Brownell’s magnetic personality?
WHY DO YOU THINK HE CAME VIZCOOT. LSU OFFERED HIM MORE MONEY. AND CLARK, WHY DID HE COME.
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LSU ALSO WENT 14-19 LAST YEAR
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YOU FORGOT TO TURN YOUR CAPS LOCK OFF.
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Your CBB narrative is getting old
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Everyone that truly knows CBB says that he has a great personality. You make assumptions by what you see on tv versus what others say about him. The same narrative about how he doesn't know how to coach offense is refuted every time you listen to other coaches talk about Clemson's offense. According to KenPom, Clemson's offense is 20th most efficient in the nation. I'm guessing it's because of the players and not the coach, right? Defense is 57th. That equates to a good basketball team, which someone had to put together and someone has to be coaching.
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Re: Your CBB narrative is getting old
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What’s old is his tenure and what’s embarrassing is a parade of scocks coming out to celebrate a potential 4th place conference finish as some kind of accomplishment. Something you know you would ridicule in any other fanbase in any other sport. If you care this little just GTFO of the way. Clemson can attract and afford a real coach in 2024. If you want me not to say anything negative about Brownell then encourage the Bros to stop posting nonsense aggrandizing the man. This was SUPPOSED to be a good team - many argued his best. Some argued the best in at least 20 years. And it has done nothing yet.
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Are you saying this isn't a good team?***
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Re: Are you saying this isn't a good team?***
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Did I say that it wasn’t a “good” team. Is that the standard? I answer your strawman with my own. As long as we can say the team was “good” should he receive raises and extensions in perpetuity?
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Re: Are you saying this isn't a good team?***
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Considering Clemson’s putrid basketball history, I give a resounding “yes” to that question. Honestly, this whole thread is puzzling as it is year after year. I don’t understand why these two factions moan and groan about the two most successful coaches Clemson has ever had in either of these two respective spotts. The condescension toward Coach Swinney is patently absurd, but the berating of Coach Brownell all of the time is not much better. Clemson just achieved two consecutive 20+ win seasons in men’s basketball. In the ACC. And, let’s not put too much stock into the silly national talking point that the ACC is somehow an “also ran” basketball conference for the last several years. That is laughable. Shoot, the conference most likely has more Tournament wins, as well as more national titles, than any other conference this century. The ACC is still the ACC in basketball. With that said, how many times has the consecutive/multi 20+ win thing happened in Clemson history? In over 100 years of playing basketball, and I’d say at least 75 of those years had at least 20+ game seasons, has it ever happened more than 15-20 times? I don’t know the number, but it can’t be that high.
Ultimately, my point is that Coach Brownell, I think, has demonstrated he can have “good” teams on a relatively consistent basis, which is far superior than anything Clemson has ever had to crow about, regarding basketball, in my lifetime. While Brownell hasn’t had a NBA pipeline of players and national accolades, his teams, for the most part, have been competitive and rarely get obliterated from season to season. Additionally, the notion that some are arguing, no, not you, that Coach Swinney is somehow regressing into irrelevancy is, again, absurd. Coach Swinney is already a Hall of Fame coach. He has been that since about 2020. Everything he does from this point on just builds on that legacy.
P.S. And to show I’m not completely incapable of fair and objective criticism of Coach Swinney and Coach Brownell, (no, I’m not in a “cult”) I’ll admit this: 1.) Coach Swinney, I think, has missed on some of his hires/decisions to retain a few coaches/staff during his tenure at Clemson. I think that is not a completely unfair criticism, but, who hasn’t done made those types of mistakes in any long career?
2.) And, as far as Coach Brownell goes, I think it is fair and correct to criticize him on this: for seemingly his entire tenure at Clemson, his teams have struggled regularly and mightily with clockwork like patches of inability to score, for long stretches of game time, season after season. It has been gut wrenching. Even when he has had “good” teams, like this year’s team, it never fails that there will be more than a few games, as well as long periods of game time, when his teams will shoot more poorly than JV girl basketball teams and the offense will just inexplicably disappear. It’s mystifying.
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Re: VitTiz
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Tell em coot
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Uh, you're delusional
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Yes, 4th place conference finish is an accomplishment. In what world is it not? 32 D1 conferences times top 4 positions = 128 top 4 teams. There are 351 teams in D1, so there are 223 teams that want to be in Clemson's position. In actuality, there are probably closer to 300+ plus teams when you factor in a 4th place finish in the ACC behind UNC, Duke, and Virginia. I'm not saying that you can't say anything negative, but bashing this team when the goal was supposed to be an NCAAT appearance is ridiculous. The goalposts keep moving.
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Re: Uh, you're delusional
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Who, ever, said the goal was just to make the tourney. It’s hilariously obvious that you are a bunch of shills coming in here beating your chest over a season that hasn’t played out. Those of us who want a change want it because we aren’t consistently a tournament team. Once every 4 years was never the standard. We’re not “moving the goalposts” - you (plural) are making them up out of thin air.
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Re: Uh, you're delusional
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Preseason, the overwhelming majority of this board and others stated that this team needed to make the NCAAT. That is going to happen. If the goal wasn't the NCAAT, what was it? Rewind to the preseason. If you were told Clemson would finish 4th in the ACC and be a 4-6 seed in the NCAAT, you wouldn't have counted that as a successful season? If not, you're hopeless. Objectively speaking, there are 330-340 D1 teams that would count that as a successful season.
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Re: Uh, you're delusional
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Can I say that it is a successful season but not one that justifies a raise or extension for a 14th year head coach who makes more in base salary than 2 of the 3 coaches currently ahead of him in ACC standings (and no one really knows what Scheyer is making). It is not what should be viewed as successful for a coach of his tenure. It should be viewed as the absolute minimum not to be fired.
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Re: Uh, you're delusional
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That's fair to say, except that I don't think making the NCAAT is the minimum to not get fired (this year notwithstanding as I do think he had to make the NCAAT). Very few teams make the NCAAT every year. If that's the standard, I would spend virtually nothing on basketball and roll it all towards baseball, softball, gymnastics, etc. and hope that the basketball team catches lightning in a bottle.
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He said lastnight that he came to Clemson because he wanted to play for a Winner
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If you went to the game, you'd know that
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Re: He said lastnight that he came to Clemson because he wanted to play for a Winner
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Did he say “I came play for Brad Brownell because he’s a winner”? If not, how is that in conflict with my assertion that PJ Hall was the attraction?
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Paw Master [16860]
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He said he chose Clemson because he wanted to play for a Winner***
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Mar 6, 2024, 3:32 PM
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Paw Master [17254]
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Re: He said he chose Clemson because he wanted to play for a Winner***
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Mar 6, 2024, 3:55 PM
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So it doesn’t contradict my point. Thank you for the confirmation.
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Paw Master [16860]
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If you want confirmation, you need to prove he came here specifically to play
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Mar 6, 2024, 7:22 PM
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with PJ, otherwise, MY point is the only one standing
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Paw Master [17254]
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Re: If you want confirmation, you need to prove he came here specifically to play
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Mar 6, 2024, 10:13 PM
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The confirmation is that you didn’t contradict me. I don’t need an affirmation to speculate. You presented your information as though it proved my theory invalid. It does not.
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Re: Does Brad
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Mar 6, 2024, 1:56 PM
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Of course.
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Thanks for that
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Mar 6, 2024, 4:12 PM
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Very insightful statement Valley Coot
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He has to, he does not recruit and develop well.
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Mar 6, 2024, 3:30 PM
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Proven track record of not doing either.
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Re: He has to, he does not recruit and develop well.
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Mar 6, 2024, 3:47 PM
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Well let's look at some of the non-development recruits: The Chef certainly blows up you development argument all by himself Hunter Tyson does like wise. PJ Hall has certainly developed a lot, according to Coach K from year one to year two the most improved player in the nation, and he is certainly way better than in year two. Chase Hunter from a shooting guard to a point guard. Both Godfrey and Wiggins are way better than last year
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Orange Blooded [2278]
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I would think so
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Mar 7, 2024, 1:05 AM
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The most obvious position of need will be center. You're almost certainly not going to be able to "replace" PJ Hall, but the team could probably benefit from getting a veteran center out of the portal. Hopefully a physical big who can do a good job of posting up and scoring in the paint. The depth at that position has been thin even this year, so that's a move I would expect to see Brad make in the offseason. With PJ and Bas both gone, that would leave the team without a true 5 on the roster.
Beyond that there's really no telling. Clark and Girard will also be big losses, of course, so who knows what guards or small forwards Brad might be able to pick up in the portal, if any, to help replace them. I would definitely expect more than one transfer to be added, but exactly how many and how good they'll be is hard to project at this point. There's also no telling exactly what positions they'll play or what their playstyles will be. A lot of it may depend on what players are available and who is willing to come to Clemson.
Chase still has the option to stay another year if he wants it, so that's probably going to be the biggest question of the offseason and will obviously make a huge difference in where the team stands. I'm also guessing that Hemenway will come back next year because he had to miss this entire season with injury. The thought was that he could medical redshirt this season and get a fresh year of eligibility for next year. So that could also potentially be a big help, but as we've all learned by now, counting on Alex to be available is a shaky proposition at best.
I think the best part of it all is the young core of returning players already on the roster. Of course, Ian Schieffelin should be back for his senior year. Josh Beadle, Dillon Hunter, RJ Godfrey, and Chauncey Wiggins will all presumably be returning for their junior seasons. All four of them have gotten significant playing time off the bench this season and have shown a lot of promise. The good thing about that quartet is that it is well balanced in terms of position, with 2 guards, 1 small forward, and 1 power forward, so they should offer plenty of versatility at the very least.
We also shouldn't forget about the two redshirts already on the roster. Asa Thomas and Jake Heidbreder should both be ready to play next year. Asa was a 3-star recruit, and Heidbreder was a third-team all-Mountain West player who averaged 15.1 points per game. That's no joke, because as we know, the Mountain West is a good enough conference in basketball to rival the power 6. The reports about how Jake has looked in practice have also been very good, so he in particular could make a massive impact.
And let's remember the recruits coming in for next season. Del Jones and Dallas Thomas are both 4-stars. To help put it in perspective, of players on the current roster who committed to Clemson out of high school, Dillon Hunter, Beadle, Godfrey, Wiggins, Schieffelin, and Hemenway were all 3-stars. Chase Hunter and PJ Hall were 4-stars. Now of course, recruiting rankings aren't everything, and as we know, recruits don't always pan out as expected. But Jones and Thomas should be the 2 most talented freshmen Clemson has gotten in 4 years. It may take them some time to develop at the college level, but they could still certainly have a big impact on the team right out of the gate.
It will be interesting to see how Brad decides to adjust the starting lineup. As previously discussed, center is the big unknown right now with no returning centers on the team, so it's likely we may see a transfer fill that role unless the staff decides to try playing Godfrey as a 5. You'd think Ian Schieffelin would be a lock to start at power forward with Godfrey as his backup. Small forward is a key question. Will Chauncey Wiggins be given the starting job at the 3 position, or will Brad try to find another Jack Clark type player in the portal for better defense and rebounding? I think a lot will depend on how much Wiggins can improve his defense in the offseason. It would certainly be nice if he could improve it enough to start, because his scoring potential is elite. But as we've seen this year, Clark's defense has been more valuable. So only time will tell as far as that's concerned.
It's anyone's guess what happens at guard. We don't know if Chase will come back; if he does, you'd figure he'd be one of the starters. That would leave Josh Beadle, Dillon Hunter, Jake Heidbreder, Alex Hemenway, and Del Jones as the options for the other guard spot. This raises a ton of questions. Would Chase still be the primary point guard, or does he get moved back to shooting guard? Or could he alternate between both? We know Josh Beadle and Dillon Hunter will probably be the other options at point guard, while Jake Heidbreder and Alex Hemenway will be the options at shooting guard.
Or will Brad find another elite shooting guard in the portal to replace Joe Girard? If that were the case, you'd figure Chase would then be the full-time point guard and everyone else would be relegated to bench roles. But we still don't even know if Chase is coming back. Could Del Jones be good enough to see immediate playing time? How might he factor into this equation? He's described as a combo guard who can play both the 1 and the 2, although he is primarily a point guard. If he gets significant playing time, will it be at point guard or at shooting guard? Or both? As you can see, the possibilities at guard are so wide open right now that it almost seems foolish to make any definite predictions.
So all in all, I think there's a lot to be excited about for the 2024-2025 men's basketball season between potential transfers, veteran returners, young returners, redshirts, and new freshmen. There will certainly be some big shoes to fill, but between the remaining talent already on the roster and the new additions, I believe this team should still be good next season and beyond.
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