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Orange Blooded [∞]
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Front Page Story: Nine-game conference schedule is here to stay, at least for now
Jul 22, 2012, 8:18 PM
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Athletic Dir [864]
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Got that right, Tommy.***
Jul 22, 2012, 8:28 PM
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CU Medallion [58642]
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So, how did TDP vote on this? Apparently, Swofford is not
Jul 22, 2012, 8:44 PM
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making anybody do this, but rather the ADs who voted on it.
Also, if this is bad for Clemson (and it seems to be), and we didn't vote for it, I fail to see the lovey-dovey, warm and fuzzy feeling for the ACC the BOT apparently came away with after meeting with Swofford.
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Orange Blooded [3910]
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If one issue derails a meeting...
Jul 22, 2012, 8:50 PM
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...then both sides are at fault.
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Oculus Spirit [83205]
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CU Medallion [58642]
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"A frank discussion among friends", "They love Clemson",
Jul 22, 2012, 9:10 PM
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"It was all positive", "He did nothing but reinforce our role in the ACC".
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Legend [19210]
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Should we call and write the BOT again to show our
Jul 22, 2012, 9:23 PM
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concerns? They should know.
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Commissioner [942]
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No mention of the fact that the SEC is the only conference
Jul 22, 2012, 9:01 PM
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among the SEC, ACC, Big 12, Big 10 and Pac 10 sticking with 8 conference games. And the SEC according to SEC folks will probably go to 9 games in 2 or 3 years. That was mentioned in an article I read today. The 9 game issue is a big to do about nothing. Heck, cancel the So Car game if it's that much of a handicap.
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Legend [19210]
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Cancel all the waste of time games like Presbyterian,
Jul 22, 2012, 9:20 PM
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Coastal Carolina, SC State, Ball State, etc. etc. etc.
They do nothing for anyone at Clemson. Nothing.
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All-In [29046]
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They actually bring in a huge chunk of money
Jul 22, 2012, 9:44 PM
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Like it or not, with our budget and expenses every home game is an enormous component of staying solvent.
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Legend [19210]
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Getting to the Playoff will bring in more money and part of
Jul 22, 2012, 9:47 PM
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it is based on SOS.
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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CU Guru [1272]
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There have only been 2 games in recent history
Jul 23, 2012, 8:07 AM
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that I felt like I wasn't coming close to getting my money's worth involving Clemson football. Presbyterian and the Temple game in Charlotte. I would have definitely seen better on field competition during our Orannge and White game. And we may have 2 of those type of games early in this year's schedule.
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All-American [576]
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Re: No mention of the fact that the SEC is the only conference
Jul 22, 2012, 9:34 PM
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I'm not a big fan of the 9 game conference schedule. I see how it hurts schools like Clemson, FSU, etc. Not too many OU or Big 12 fans seem to hate it that much. Majority of the schools have their rivals in conference. I have to say that even with 9 games...OU still has ND this year and next, Tenn in 2014, 2015, Ohio State in 2016-2017, and LSU after that (of course things can change).
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Orange Blooded [4103]
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The Short Answer Is... Sacrifice A Cupcake!
Jul 22, 2012, 9:25 PM
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Yes, its sad, but a cupcake must go... I know the Cupcake games are a socialist idea so that the a non FBS D-1 school may get a taste of FBS D-1 money... but the world is a hard, cruel place... and life is not fair. Plus it would make room for a noble opponent.
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Not possible if we want to keep 7 home games which is
Jul 22, 2012, 10:50 PM
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necessary these days. And any big time team will want to schedule home and home which would make it impossible to keep 7 home games.
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Athletic Dir [865]
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A home and home series with a team like UGA will generate
Jul 23, 2012, 8:03 AM
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more money for CU-AD than 2 games vs teams like Furman.
There will only be 70,000 at a Furman game. (times 2 = 140,000 tickets sold). $35 for adult. $10 for kids.
There will be 82,000 at a UGA game. $70 per seat.
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Orange Blooded [4103]
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And I believe the gate is split.....
Jul 23, 2012, 12:54 PM
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THUS, the argument that cupcakes generate more revenue since they are at home is mute, given the revenue generation of playing a top tier opponent, home or away... with no cupcake games, EVERY game will be important
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I wish this topic was "mute" - it is getting to be
Jul 23, 2012, 9:23 AM
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as irritating as the ACC/Big 12 issue. There is nothing as frustrating as having an argument about something that neither side in the discussion has any control over whatsoever.
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Re: The Short Answer Is... Sacrifice A Cupcake!
Jul 23, 2012, 12:09 PM
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Didn't you guys read what Tommy Bowden said??? A school NEEDS to schedule cupcakes so they can have games to fumble, have injuries, etc., and still win the game. It is a simple fact that no school can schedule 12 or 13 games of solid quality opponents and come out unscathed. The SEC schools sure do schedule cupcakes and they also have only 8 conference games for this very reason. The obvious solution is to do what the premiere conference does, schedule 8 conference games.
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CU Guru [1746]
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But the ACC is weaker than the SEC. Syracuse is a cupcake.***
Jul 23, 2012, 1:00 PM
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Another ACC decision that harms Clemson
Jul 22, 2012, 10:30 PM
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Clemson, FSU, & GATech are significantly harmed, unlike the rest of the sorry ACC.
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It's a dumb idea for any ACC school, just more so for CU
Jul 22, 2012, 11:06 PM
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Scheduling more conference games means more chances to lose games because facing comparable competition. If a team schedules 8 ACC games and 4 "winnable" out of conference games, much better chance to climb higher in polls, etc...
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Oculus Spirit [83205]
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Significantly?? Actually it will help Clemson and FSU.
Jul 23, 2012, 4:38 AM
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9 game schedule gives more talented teams a better chance to win division. Cream rises to top.
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If every conference is going to 9 games, why is this a
Jul 23, 2012, 7:54 AM
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disadvantage to Clemson? By playoff time (2014), every conference (to include the SEC) will play 9 conference games. And most schools, will schedule one quality non-conference foe. What "problem" am I missing here?
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All-In [30522]
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People just want to whine about the ACC.***
Jul 23, 2012, 8:09 AM
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CU Medallion [60261]
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Clemson, FSU and GT have a definite disadvantage
Jul 23, 2012, 8:41 AM
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we already have a "home-and-home" with a major conference team scheduled EVERY YEAR that others (like UNC, VT, etc. ) do not. So 10 of our games are set, when others have only 9.
With 5 away ACC games, that leaves us no wiggle room to play another major conf opponent and still have 7 home games every year. The years we play 4 away ACC games will be the year we play at SCAR.
Our only option if we are to schedule UGA or Auburn (any random team) in the future is to play 6 road/6 away games.
Simple math.
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With SOS being a criteria to make the playoffs, UNC, VT, etc
Jul 23, 2012, 8:53 AM
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are going to have to schedule at least one quality o-o-c opponent each year. There is no way around that unless they don't care about making the 4-team playoff. You know they care.
With the SEC going to 9 conference games, games with UGA and Auburn will be part of our memory bank rather than part of our future. The SEC schools will not want to play a tough o-o-c game if they have to play 9 conference games. And they don't need to. Frankly, we will need to count ourselves as fortunate if the CU-USC, GT-UGA and FSU-UF rivalry games survive a 9 conference game schedule. It's unfortunate. But, that's going to be a fact of college football life in the future.
So again, I don't see Clemson as being at any disadvantage.
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Athletic Dir [865]
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It is not that much fun to watch Clemson fumble the ball,
Jul 23, 2012, 7:55 AM
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turn it over, and play a lot of young guys who make mistake after mistake...but still walk a way with a win.
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This is the result of $$$ MONEY $$$$
Jul 23, 2012, 8:49 AM
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The nine game schedule allows for more televised conference games. However, I do not believe it will improve the quality of games. Not too many people interested in a Duke or Wake game. I would have enjoyed a series with PITT or Syracuse in the past as an OCC game. Not sure now.
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Oculus Spirit [94284]
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I don't believe it will increase the revenues.
Jul 23, 2012, 1:04 PM
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I just don't see ESPiN paying more to add Pitt and Cuse to the schedule.
Our top teams barely draw a primetime game on Saturday now.
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Only problem with 9 game schedule is Clemson's reaction to
Jul 23, 2012, 9:01 AM
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it. Only shows we have joined the crowd who wants to win off the field instead of competing for a championship. Might as well pull for UNC if putting down other teams and winning politically is the only way we can compete.
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I don't understand your comments at all.
Jul 23, 2012, 9:18 AM
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Our objection is that our scheduling options are significantly impacted by this. I can't even connect what you said to the issue at hand.
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Oculus Spirit [94284]
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Re: I don't understand your comments at all.
Jul 23, 2012, 1:06 PM
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I think he is believing Clemson wanted a 9 game conference schedule. I doubt Clemson would have voted for it.
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Re: Front Page Story: Nine-game conference schedule is here to stay, at least for now
Jul 23, 2012, 1:43 PM
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"John Swofford said ... that he realizes how much programs like Clemson’s can be hurt by the new rules." And I'm sure it makes that Jack-A Swofford happy. Anything to hurt Clemson. I notice none of the precious NC teams were on the 'might get hurt' list.
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