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TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Irrelevant last minute dead count bounce last gasp of air action
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made by the USAs peoples party of foreign nations
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Re: Irrelevant last minute dead count bounce last gasp of air action
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Agreed… This is coming from the people that think that men dressing up as women are OK to play in women’s sports
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Re: Irrelevant last minute dead count bounce last gasp of air action
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:02 PM
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Safe to say this won’t hold…
Trump is in favor of disbanding the Department of Education…can’t imagine having this rescinded will be a big deal…
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well Vance better win in 4 years or back to lunacy we go***
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and again 4 years later.***
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Re: Irrelevant last minute dead count bounce last gasp of air action
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I hope that our society never caves in for that Bullshitt bc it would be saying that it's ok to live as something that you're not and can never be regardless of how many surgeries they go through to change their sex, they will always be what they're born to be. Everything on this earth don't have a choice, and when people try to pay to be another sex, they will always be what they were born to be and cutting off parts and adding parts want do it and they will live the rest of their lives as a fake person, a phony!!!
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Re: Irrelevant last minute dead count bounce last gasp of air action
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Jan 17, 2025, 3:17 PM
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Sooooooooooo…………….
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Let me translate...
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Jan 17, 2025, 5:27 PM
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You're all stupid because I have a law degree. That degree allows me to remind you of how stupid you are and how I am smarter because... law degree. So the answer to this complicated legal question is: nobody knows.... and you're all stupid.
Did I get it right?
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Re: Let me translate...
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Jan 17, 2025, 11:07 PM
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Thanks for translating.
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Re: Irrelevant last minute dead count bounce last gasp of air action
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Commies, moran
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:02 PM
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Sure hope Trump appointee rescinds this. Crazy to pay based on gender versus pay the money making sports proportionately to revenue generated.
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Sure hope Trump appointee rescinds this. Crazy to pay based on gender versus pay the money making sports proportionately to revenue generated.
This could save college athletics. If the current plan holds 10 years from now the whole system will be gone due to financial failure . Clemson is making a giant mistake over paying coaches and athletes and the program in the long run will fail. The cable money and espn will all be cutting back. It is not substainable
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:32 PM
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Thanks Mr 32%
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:59 PM
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The belief among some people that some coaches at Clemson (and many other universities) are overpaid cannot be ascertained at this point. All highly compensated employees in any organization may turn out to be overpaid, depending how the future financial realities for the organization match up with the original financial predictions.
There is always a reckoning for employees that are grossly overpaid … eventually. All salaried employees are compensated in advance in accordance to the value that the employer expects to get from the employee. This holds true even for the lowest level salaried workers; the worker is guaranteed his salary in advance for 2 weeks, whether or not his productivity at the end of that 2 week period justifies the originally agreed upon salary.
Dabo is paid handsomely right now for what the FB program anticipates getting (as far as ROI) in the future.
If it happens that Clemson’s FB program financial projections fall grossly short of its financial projections, then Dabo’s current salary won’t be re-upped.
This is how the self-corrective mechanism of a business works.
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Education doesn't seem to be that important to football elsewhere.
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:06 PM
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Most of the colleges can tell the ED to relax, none of their football players are involved.
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well Georgia and UNC, obviously. Colorado under Prime.
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Jan 17, 2025, 1:25 PM
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Anyone going to Coot U for an "education" instead of tailgate dumpster sex and hand jobs in the stands is just fooling themselves.
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More DEI BS from Biden and his woke appointees...
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:06 PM
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Now there's a shocker!
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Not to get political but I thought the dept of education is being dismantled
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:09 PM
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Anyway? Wasn’t that something we were told during the election.
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Re: Not to get political but I thought the dept of education is being dismantled
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:27 PM
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The DOE can’t be dismantled by executive order unfortunately…
They have already introduced a bill…which may or may not pass…
Trump can certainly get this rescinded though…
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Congress can dismantle the DofEd budget, though.
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Jan 17, 2025, 1:08 PM
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Simpler and almost as effective.
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Re: Quite a lot of what was discussed during the election cant be achieved through
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Jan 18, 2025, 5:38 AM
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Trump is your President
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:17 PM
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Just another feeble attempt to chip away at the culture, fabric, and identity of the greatest nation in the world. FAIL! Wokeism and Marxism are on their way out Ice Cream man! The Zuckerberg and Fetterman ilk of rats are jumping off your ship.
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 17, 2025, 2:37 PM
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I am anti woke, but what is our culture, fabric, and identity?
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cut all mens sports down to football only, and bare bones womens sports to
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:32 PM
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comply with title 9. Really sick of this government.
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Nash. Make football athletes emoloyees.
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Jan 17, 2025, 1:53 PM
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That tabes out the Title IX issues.
The non revenue sports can then fight it out over the chump change.
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If Trump's DOE doesn't rescind this idiotic memo
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:50 PM
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then the courts eventually will. The problem for this DOE memo is that it categorizes the athlete payments as "athletic financial assistance" which is decidedly not what these payments are.
The courts have specifically ruled that these payments are "compensation" for these athletes participation in revenue generation and not some form of "financial aid/assistance". The power hungry bureaucrats at the DOE are trying to insert themselves into a process of which they have no legal authority and will get smoked if taken to trial....
Hopefully this is quickly corrected by the incoming administration and avoids having to clog up our courts with this nonsense.
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Jan 17, 2025, 12:54 PM
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The Department of Education needs to no longer exist. Useless.
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 17, 2025, 3:19 PM
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Yup. Our kids have gotten FAR dumber by any metric since the national DoE came into existence. No greater justification for getting rid of that bureaucratic monster than that
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Socialism***
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Jan 17, 2025, 1:06 PM
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Take a look at test scores in 1980 (when the DOE was created) and take a look at them now, then justify its existence to anyone with a brain.
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Why are some states smarter than others?***
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Have you ever been to California...
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Jan 17, 2025, 1:48 PM
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where the elected officials are even more unbelievably stupid than the people voting for them.
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Yep I have; five words: Tommy Tuberville, Marjorie Taylor Greene***
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Re: Yep I have; five words: Tommy Tuberville, Marjorie Taylor Greene***
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Trump is your President
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Check with Elon on that.***
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Jan 17, 2025, 1:47 PM
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this will last about a week
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Yup...
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Just one more example of the Fed (Cardona at the DOE, a Biden DEI appointee) trying to interject in an area where it has zero jurisdiction or authority.
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Re: Yup...
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to do it fairly, it should be proportioned based on total revenue that sports brings in, not not evenly split. Heard a million times, if women want to make money in sports, they need more people to show up for the games, and that is not the case. It is simply free market economics.
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Not that I would advocate for it but . . .
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Jan 17, 2025, 1:57 PM
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If schools wanted to both comply and distribute revenue how they saw fit . . . couldn't they just get rid of all women's sports?
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No...but they could make football athletes employees.
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Jan 17, 2025, 2:26 PM
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That would remove the Title IX balance issues for the Olympic sports. It might even add some men's Olympic sports to get balance.
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Re: Not that I would advocate for it but . . .
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Wondering what creative solutions could come out. Maybe it would backfire to some degree and also hurt women’s sports and other men’s sports that aren’t big revenue generators to even things out.
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Just yet another reason the football players need to be made employees. I mean
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just own it college football. You're paying these guys tons and tons of money to play pro football. Stop trying to hide from the Employee status when that's clearly what they are!
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Jan 17, 2025, 2:03 PM
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Paying dabo $11.5m for winning a crappy acc conference and getting beat by all 3 of the sec teams we played this year…is a horrible ROI! Just facts
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 17, 2025, 3:07 PM
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What were the profits? Did the university makes less money in football this year?
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Very simple solution
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Jan 17, 2025, 2:08 PM
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we just need half of the football team to identify as female. Easy peazey lemon squeezey.
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Under-rated funny post. LOL.***
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Jan 17, 2025, 2:11 PM
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Since it's revenue sharing you should get the percentage that your sport brings in. Football 99.9% everything else split what's left.
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Would be a disaster for our football program’s ability to stay competitive in the NIL space.
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What a bunch of morons.***
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Re: What a bunch of morons.***
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Disagree with this decision. But, after reading the replies, some of you are bad people.
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 17, 2025, 3:12 PM
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I guess the Anderson University football and men’s basketball programs will get almost nothing. The school is about 70% female.
The government screws up everything it touches. Maybe Trump and his team can bring some common sense to a place that totally lacks it.
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 17, 2025, 4:09 PM
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Have the football team identify as female
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 17, 2025, 6:07 PM
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A boy is a boy and a girl is a girl, ### is wrong with these freaking people..
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 17, 2025, 5:00 PM
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There is absolutely no doubt that Civil Rights attorneys are lining up with supporters of Title IX and the notion of 80% or so of the money going to football was never going to work. What I can see is schools taking part of the money and distributing it to all athletes and then putting the bulk into a Collective to be used for market based NIL money. In 2025, it is just unrealistic that women athletes and non revenue athletes will not receive their share because the laws of discrimination will be challenged from the word go.
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 17, 2025, 5:03 PM
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It's sad that the women will get preferential treatment over the men.
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It supports what I've been saying about the NIL clause in the House case.
The NCAA can't interfere in private NIL because it's an illegal limit on what people can earn.
The NCAA has three, maybe four choices.
1. Proceed with the settlement but drop the NIL/clearinghouse clause and take their chances with the Title IX issues. That could hurt every FBS football program.
2. Cancel the settlement and take their chances with litigation. That's likely organizational suicide for the NCAA. No telling what the ripple effects of that would be.
3. Continue to lobby Congress for an ATE. No signs that will get enough vires to pass. Even if it does, it is very unlikely it will have any effect on NIL.
4. Least likely - CFB becomes paid employees or contractors with no student requirement and no NIL cap. That eliminates the bulk of the Title IX problems, creates jobs, and keeps the bulk of the money with the people that create the demand - the football teams.
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Jan 17, 2025, 6:06 PM
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Make them employees. End this stupidity! Year to year salary package for all athletes. Pay is merit based and does not have to be equal..Title IX dies with this move.
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Jan 18, 2025, 10:59 AM
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No, end the stupidity by NOT making them students. Why should they suck the teat of academic program? Let them be their own entity and simply affiliated with the colleges. Colleges are educational institutions.
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
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Classic Biden move. Before I go, let me screw up College Football. Way to go Joe. You just cemented your legacy as the worst President in human history. And when Trump fixes it he will be even more popular.
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All the Democrats in here, this is WHY you all lost
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you do not have the common sense of someone that thinks that screen doors on a submarine are a good idea.
Without looking, name a volleyball player for the last team that won the volleyball national championship. You cannot do it without Google.
Tell me again why they deserve the same rev sharing as the starting QB of a national championship team.
Good job, you all are trying to F up college sports now. You screw up literally everything you touch.
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: All the Democrats in here, this is WHY you all lost
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Jan 18, 2025, 5:42 AM
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Trump is their President 👍😁
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Varsity [103]
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No, it isn't.
Jan 19, 2025, 1:23 PM
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This decision was made long after Trump won the 2024 election.
There were far more stupid things from the left that lost the election for them.
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Varsity [137]
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 18, 2025, 10:57 AM
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I'm no expert, but I can think of a chilling effect of this. Could a school with low sports revenue, take $20M from general funds (i.e. academic funds) to try to build their program into something equal to major schools, like ACC or SEC? Could South Carolina State buy a top 20 basketball team, which would hopefully produce good sports revenue? I'm not worried about small schools getting better, but about students that go to a university for academics, not to play games. Will you and me and our children get what they pay for? Will tuition go up to subsidize guys that are only at school to play sports? I sure hope there's a plan to not let this happen. That money better come solely from athletic revenue, or rich alums paying for sports.
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Scout Team [85]
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 18, 2025, 5:02 PM
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I saw today that a girl from mooresville nc is getting a scholarship somewhere to play flag football. Maybe adding flag fb for girls would create parity? If the cross dressers are kept out of it!
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Athletic Dir [1152]
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Re: TNET: Department of Education drops a grenade in laps of ADs: How could it affect Clemson?
Jan 19, 2025, 11:14 PM
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Well anything can and will happen now as literslly the inmate takes charge of the asylum tomorrow. Just hold on and hope our education system and sports around it msnages to survive
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