Replies: 41
| visibility 755
|
CU Medallion [20979]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 13796
Joined: 1995
|
I am confused. With Streeter gone and Brownell doing well
8
8
Jan 23, 2023, 9:54 AM
|
|
who/what do we argue about now?
In all seriousness, been really nice on this board lately.
|
|
|
|
Clemson Conqueror [11165]
TigerPulse: 86%
46
Posts: 14423
Joined: 2004
|
the portal***
4
Jan 23, 2023, 9:56 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [20979]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 13796
Joined: 1995
|
I think this fight might end soon.***
1
Jan 23, 2023, 9:58 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Top TigerNet [32374]
TigerPulse: 100%
55
Posts: 35340
Joined: 2003
|
when in doubt
10
10
Jan 23, 2023, 9:56 AM
|
|
"only Alumni can be real fans"
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16856]
TigerPulse: 91%
51
Posts: 27063
Joined: 2003
|
Or gameday attire, that's another favorite***
1
Jan 23, 2023, 2:00 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ring of Honor [21238]
TigerPulse: 85%
53
Posts: 18026
Joined: 2007
|
Grisham***
3
Jan 23, 2023, 9:57 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [20979]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 13796
Joined: 1995
|
Re: Grisham***
3
Jan 23, 2023, 9:59 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2528]
TigerPulse: 100%
32
|
Re: I am confused. With Streeter gone and Brownell doing well
1
Jan 23, 2023, 10:00 AM
|
|
Jump on Joey again.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5234]
TigerPulse: 92%
38
|
We need an ACC commish that fights for the ACC schools
3
Jan 23, 2023, 10:02 AM
|
|
I think we could all agree on this one.
Also, we need an NCAA that once again has the power and guts to investigate and actually punish members who violate member established and passed membership agreement rules. Kick schools out who refuse to abide. This would fix NIL abuses and the transfer portal free agency/tampering nonsense that it has turned into. I think we could all agree on this one too.
The only potential fly in the ointment is the SEC commissioner. I get the impression he likes where things are headed. ?
|
|
|
|
|
Associate AD [831]
TigerPulse: 94%
23
|
Re: We need an ACC commish that fights for the ACC schools
Jan 23, 2023, 12:52 PM
|
|
What does "fights for the ACC" even mean?
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5234]
TigerPulse: 92%
38
|
Lobbies NCAA vigorously, let’s ESPN know ACC is probably…
Jan 23, 2023, 4:20 PM
|
|
Leaving the agreement… consequences be ######! Somebody needs to start throwing grenades on behalf of the ACC!
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Conqueror [11341]
TigerPulse: 100%
46
|
Re: Lobbies NCAA vigorously, let’s ESPN know ACC is probably…
Jan 23, 2023, 4:38 PM
|
|
Soooo a commissioner that will fight to put himself out of a job?
|
|
|
|
|
All-American [558]
TigerPulse: 71%
20
|
Re: We need an ACC commish that fights for the ACC schools
Jan 23, 2023, 4:35 PM
[ in reply to We need an ACC commish that fights for the ACC schools ] |
|
BUT, but, but. Are you thinking of an AD like Ole Swoffee.
Ole Swoffee fought hard for UNCheat, to keep them from getting the Sudden Death penalty. And I think he was instrumental in (paying) getting the former Duke basketball player to insist that UNCheat had done NOTHING WRONG! (While UNCheat had spent 20 years doing the most-aggregious cheating EVER in the NCAA ranks.) And Ole Swoffee got them off with no penalty ! And that was total Bxxx Shyatt.
What a piece of garbage Swoffee was. Including for his TV contract and all of the Acc basketball TV money he kicked to his brother-in-law. Scum.
|
|
|
|
|
Top TigerNet [31186]
TigerPulse: 100%
55
Posts: 47848
Joined: 1999
|
We don’t talk about Goodwin
Jan 23, 2023, 10:03 AM
|
|
.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [20979]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 13796
Joined: 1995
|
I think we should give him another year before judging
Jan 23, 2023, 10:06 AM
|
|
He should have a good handle on how to do the job and a decent defense coming back next year.
|
|
|
|
|
Top TigerNet [31186]
TigerPulse: 100%
55
Posts: 47848
Joined: 1999
|
That’s happening … hope his rope is short
1
Jan 23, 2023, 10:08 AM
|
|
He was less experienced that Streeter
Message was edited by: STERLING®
|
|
|
|
|
Ring of Honor [21121]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 10211
Joined: 1998
|
But he worked with the NFL
1
Jan 23, 2023, 10:23 AM
|
|
That's like an automatic qualifier, right? LOL
|
|
|
|
|
Playmaker [381]
TigerPulse: 99%
16
|
Re: That’s happening … hope his rope is short
1
Jan 23, 2023, 10:39 AM
[ in reply to That’s happening … hope his rope is short ] |
|
Dabo has done pretty well with no experience other than wide receiver position coach. Take yourself back to all the panic that change produced. Not defending Grisham, just saying experience isn’t always the main qualifier.
|
|
|
|
|
Standout [313]
TigerPulse: 100%
15
|
Re: That’s happening … hope his rope is short
Jan 23, 2023, 11:35 AM
[ in reply to That’s happening … hope his rope is short ] |
|
With Dabo actually firing Streeter i'm sure Wes knows his job may very well be on the line this year.
|
|
|
|
|
Athletic Dir [1147]
TigerPulse: 100%
26
|
Re: I think we should give him another year before judging
3
Jan 23, 2023, 10:16 AM
[ in reply to I think we should give him another year before judging ] |
|
Yeah... one more year so the defense can under perform its talent level... Should have never been given the job as DC.
|
|
|
|
|
National Champion [8067]
TigerPulse: 96%
42
|
Yup. He did far less with far more than the offense did.***
Jan 23, 2023, 10:56 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [46596]
TigerPulse: 78%
58
Posts: 34839
Joined: 2003
|
Wes Goodwin.
2
2
Jan 23, 2023, 10:16 AM
|
|
He was unqualified for the DC position, and our defense was disappointing last season - especially given our talent level.
|
|
|
|
|
Ultimate Tiger [37837]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
Posts: 10480
Joined: 2015
|
Re: Wes Goodwin.
1
Jan 23, 2023, 11:09 AM
|
|
Why was he unqualified? I do not understand this assessment. He did fine.
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [46596]
TigerPulse: 78%
58
Posts: 34839
Joined: 2003
|
You honestly don’t understand why he was unqualified to be our DC?
2
Jan 23, 2023, 12:47 PM
|
|
On the most basic level, he had never been a defensive coordinator, and certainly not at the power 5 level.
I don’t see anything in his background to suggest that he had the qualifications to be a defensive coordinator, especially not at a program like ours with multiple future NFL players on it including some elite talent.
Why do you think he was qualified to be our DC? “Dabo likes him” isn’t a valid reason.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5237]
TigerPulse: 100%
38
|
Ill play...tell us what he didnt do right...
2
Jan 23, 2023, 12:55 PM
|
|
...and I mean SPECIFICALLY. Dont say "we lost to usuck", thats not showing what he didnt do right.
We got burned on some deep balls, but thats player execution and personnel playing the wrong position due to injury.
The WF mesh messed us up, but BV couldnt stop a shovel pass against Pitt that year.
The one game I cant figure out is how ND smashed the ball down our throats. I think the D gave up because the O was soooo bad.
Other than those issues, I think Wes was solid.
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Titan [46596]
TigerPulse: 78%
58
Posts: 34839
Joined: 2003
|
He didn’t do the things necessary to optimize our talent level.
1
4
Jan 23, 2023, 1:56 PM
|
|
Here are some key stats for this past season:
23rd in scoring defense 28th in total defense 33rd in defensive TDs 40th in 3rd down conversion percentage defense 46th in team passing efficiency defense 56th in red zone defense 66th in first downs defense 76th in passing yards allowed
Our talent level on defense is easily top 10, if not top 5. Do you think these numbers are reasonable based on our talent level? Because I don’t.
I don’t claim to know the specific coverages he should’ve been in for a given opponent, or the adjustment he should have made in a certain situation. That’s his job. All I know is that our defense underachieved significantly.
Remember, we played in the weakest power 5 conference. We did not play a tough schedule at all. And even if we had, shouldn’t we still expect to have a top defense? Before the season, some here predicted that we would have the best defense in the country. That sure didn’t happen, did it?
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5237]
TigerPulse: 100%
38
|
Ok for starters
Jan 23, 2023, 11:23 PM
|
|
All those stats are indicative of the defense being on the field too much. Why was that? Because dabo was married to a QB1 who couldnt get 1st downs. Defense on the field = bad defensive stats.
Secondly, we were not the worst P5 conference. We played teams when they were at full strength. Those same teams later tanked due to injuries which made them look worse as the end of the season.
Wes made adjustments. WF game Wiggins got beat a bunch of times, by the end of the season he was close to being shut down. He moved trotter and dude became a beast.
I’m not on team Wes, but I don’t agree that he’s unqualified.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2307]
TigerPulse: 100%
32
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5237]
TigerPulse: 100%
38
|
Injuries without depth and Offensive struggles had a lot to
Jan 23, 2023, 12:34 PM
[ in reply to Wes Goodwin. ] |
|
do with the Defensive problems.
I think its worth inspecting the work Wes did, but I think hes solid as long as he can recruit.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3710]
TigerPulse: 100%
35
|
Re: I am confused. With Streeter gone and Brownell doing well
Jan 23, 2023, 10:19 AM
|
|
Baseball is just around the corner!
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [27010]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 12771
Joined: 2014
|
Re: I am confused. With Streeter gone and Brownell doing well
2
Jan 23, 2023, 10:55 AM
|
|
Nikki for President
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [27374]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 33572
Joined: 2009
|
lets see how the men's tennis team does this season***
Jan 23, 2023, 11:06 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Conqueror [11590]
TigerPulse: 100%
46
|
Fall back beeching topic is alway strength and conditioning***
Jan 23, 2023, 11:31 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Walk-On [116]
TigerPulse: 100%
11
|
Re: I am confused. With Streeter gone and Brownell doing well
Jan 23, 2023, 12:00 PM
|
|
Let's turn our attention to getting a special teams coordinator! Seems we forgot that football is a game of 3 components.
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Spirit [9768]
TigerPulse: 55%
44
Posts: 12843
Joined: 2006
|
Re: I am confused. With Streeter gone and Brownell doing well
Jan 23, 2023, 12:21 PM
|
|
Baseball starts soon and there are 11 regular season basketball games left. A better idea would be to let the people at Clemson who know what they are doing handle coaches and just our athletes win or lose.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Immortal [66548]
TigerPulse: 100%
60
Posts: 40940
Joined: 2001
|
The price of eggs!! What is up with those prima donna hens??***
1
Jan 23, 2023, 12:42 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Game Changer [1666]
TigerPulse: 100%
31
|
Re: I am confused. With Streeter gone and Brownell doing well
Jan 23, 2023, 1:13 PM
|
|
We can consider when it is appropriate to rename the court at littlejohn to the “Brad Brownell Court”
LOL. I kid i kid.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [3739]
TigerPulse: 100%
35
|
Re: I am confused. With Streeter gone and Brownell doing well
Jan 23, 2023, 1:21 PM
|
|
Oh! I didn't know about Brownell.
|
|
|
|
|
Game Day Hero [4176]
TigerPulse: 100%
36
|
Streeter is gone - the basketball team is winning
Jan 23, 2023, 1:28 PM
|
|
That does not mean Brownell is doing well. 13 years of facts don’t get erased by a good run.
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16856]
TigerPulse: 91%
51
Posts: 27063
Joined: 2003
|
We can still talk about how horrible Streeter was and
1
1
Jan 23, 2023, 1:56 PM
|
|
rejoice in the fact that Dabo got rid of him so soon after his promotion
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [11066]
TigerPulse: 100%
45
Posts: 13143
Joined: 2014
|
Don't forget...Monte is gone too! What are we going to
Jan 23, 2023, 11:29 PM
|
|
complain about? I'm sure we'll find something!
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [78357]
TigerPulse: 100%
62
Posts: 29067
Joined: 2018
|
You’re incorrigible PCB,
Jan 24, 2023, 12:47 AM
|
|
coot.
|
|
|
|
Replies: 41
| visibility 755
|
|
|