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TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:16 PM
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100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:18 PM
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Trainer [46]
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:23 PM
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DJ must have something on him. THREE dropped passes, just three and we get the he doesnt catch the ball!!?? He has to be in the area of a wr for them to be able to catch. Dabo i believe you have lost your mind or just dont care anymore. 10 mil a year for you to be stagnant? Must be nice to know you dont have to do your job everyday to get paid. Glad to know big stinky will be starting so i wont watch the game
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Clemson Icon [27024]
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:25 PM
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Big Stinky??? Grow up.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 6:12 PM
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Watching DJ is painful. If he plays decent it is tolerable, not enjoyable.
I miss those games his freshman year.
My wife, huge Clemson fan and graduate, could not watch the second half, too painful to watch!
Dabo and Streeter must be seeing something we don’t see….
I can agree with Dabo, the two kick return fumbles probably cost us the game.
With a good QB we would have dominated the coots!
Go Tigers, Beat UNC!
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Tiger Spirit [9785]
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 7:37 PM
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DJU looked great his first year in large measure because he had 3 super stud WRs and another super stud RB (T.Etienne) to catch the ball.
Cornell Powell, Tee Higgins and Amari Rodgers are each better by far than all other WRs on our roster outside of Antonio Williams. (If Adam Randall gets his lateral movement skills back, then maybe he will ascend to the Cornell Powell level.)
With all respect to our current RBs (all three of which are fine players), none of them are the caliber of receiver that Travis Etienne was.
Those guys got separation, caught the easy passes, caught the contested passes, and had a zillion YAC.
DJU looked great (as did Trevor Lawrence) in that circumstance.
Take away all of the toys, and suddenly the DJU playground isn't as much fun.
(We desperately need much better WRs.)
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CU Medallion [20979]
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True the WRs are horrible (outside of the freshman)
Nov 27, 2022, 7:48 PM
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But DJ also loses his confidence and implodes.
Do you see his passes yesterday? Tee Higgins would have a hard time catching those.
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Tiger Spirit [9785]
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Re: True the WRs are horrible (outside of the freshman)
Nov 27, 2022, 8:36 PM
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Tee Higgins would have caught the on-target contested passes without needing both eyes open.
Those slight wobbles which DJU frequently throws are not an impediment to a good college receiver.
We need for Adam Randall to re-gain his lateral movement skills, for Cole Turner to be the next coming of (not being funny here) Tyler Grisham, and for Ronan Hannifin, Tyler Brown, and Noble Johnson to be real-deal receivers for us next year.
Also betting (you heard it here first) that C.Vizzina will win the starting QB job before first game of 2023 season.
We will all really like Mr. Vizz.
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Orange Blooded [4607]
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Re: True the WRs are horrible (outside of the freshman)
Nov 27, 2022, 8:56 PM
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I think Vizzina wins the job too.
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Re: True the WRs are horrible (outside of the freshman)
Nov 28, 2022, 6:26 AM
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He is a shill for the staff. There were a few drops, but besides that, he knows that the QB1 here is maybe the worst D1 starting QB. I really hope whatever is going on with this QB situation, we don’t lose Dabo because this is a situation that would burn a normal person completely out. I find it impossible to believe Cade is not good enough to pass this DJ. It’s to hard to believe he’s that awful. This whole situation could turn the program and the momentum may be lost. All because of the commitment to DJ. Depressing…
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 7:55 PM
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Those receivers were great and probably would help some with DJ but he would overthrow them as well. Saturday , Antonio Williams broke free from the chicken corner and what happened ? DJ overthrew him and when he came back to the sidelines Antonio was talking to Dabo like WTH and Dabo had this disgusted look . That said it all to me. DJ is not a Freshman anymore, he is a Junior and it is not going to change for the better no matter who he is throwing to.
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Tiger Spirit [9785]
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 9:00 PM
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No doubt that DJU had a bad game yesterday. No one is denying that. He sure did miss open receivers on several occasions. He also almost threw a pik-6 early in the game, and his lateral pass 'incompletion' to Phil Mafah was a lateral and could justifiably been ruled as a fumble. Those are 2 'non-turnovers' that would have turned our close game loss into a route.
But we've got to face the facts that our WRs not only drop too many passes (not as awful this year as our WRs were last year), but they also don't commonly get separation. Sure, against most ACC DBs, our WRs can get open. But against DBs with a pulse, our WRs can't get open.
When we throw the contested type passes (including back-shoulder types) which are on target, our WRs don't make those tough catches. (Those non-catches are not categorized as drops.) However, during our decade as "WRU" our WRs would catch those contested passes ~ 2/3 of the time.
Neither D.Watson nor T.Lawrence would have won national championships (nor progressed out of the first round of any CFP game) had those 2015 through 2020 teams had WRs as poor as ours are now.
DJU sure isn't any D.Watson or T.Lawrence, but Dabo's decision to keep him at QB last year (when the DJU haters were all clamoring for Taisun Phommachan) or this year (when everyone is clamoring for a not-yet-ready-to-play Cade Klubnik) is being done because DJU is our best option to win now (and this means the ACC Championship game against UNC).
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Dynasty Maker [3135]
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 9:43 PM
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If he is our best option, shame on our coaches. Did they not recognize what they had?
I was and will always pull for Clemson players including DJ. But to deny that he has been awful and is the cause for 80% of the offensive wow’s is naive. He is the worst QB we have had in the Dabo era to be honest.
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SCAR DBs are bottom of the ACC level…
Nov 27, 2022, 10:05 PM
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That’s why people are upset.
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Who would TD that??? Calling players names is awful!!!
Nov 27, 2022, 7:45 PM
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I don't want DJ to play another down for Clemson but calling him big stinky is horrible!!
He's a fine young man and a Tiger. Some of our fans have gone insane.
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Orange Blooded [2416]
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Re: Who would TD that??? Calling players names is awful!!!
Nov 27, 2022, 8:32 PM
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He took that risk when he took/accepted the nickname "Big Cinco"! I don't know if he or his family named him that, but he didn't fight it. Nor did he fight the NIL money before proven.
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Re: Who would TD that??? Calling players names is awful!!!
Nov 27, 2022, 9:08 PM
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Your's are the words of one who sits on his duff and tells everyone else what they should do.
Yep, a teenager adopts a nickname which you view as improper, and therefore you castigate him. Maybe his friends gave him that nickname. Maybe he should have fought them or whined and cried until they stopped calling him Big Cinco.
Great job.
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Dynasty Maker [3135]
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Re: Who would TD that??? Calling players names is awful!!!
Nov 27, 2022, 9:45 PM
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Agreed. I truly wanted DJ to be a rock star. He is doing his best. It is just not up to an elite programs standard.
My concern is that it is obvious that Cade is no where near ready. Really hoping the spring changes things.
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Re: Don’t forget there are a ton of coots on here***
Nov 27, 2022, 10:13 PM
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dumb comment. and I figure anyone who uses the word "coot" in a post has a two-digit IQ.
We all want Clemson to succeed, but it is clear that DJU won't lead the way and we don't understand why Dabo keeps covering for him.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:26 PM
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One of the drops we scored the next play.. drops didn’t cost us this game.. did we have any drops 2nd half?
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:46 PM
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Definitely, it wasn’t the three drops, it was the 18 other incompletions that were completely uncatchable.
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National Champion [7853]
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Well there were also quite a few where the WRs
Nov 27, 2022, 4:56 PM
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quit on routes which made it look like DJ’s bad throw. Our WRs are not good at almost every phase of the game. We need overhauls at QB and WR and could use a true game breaker at RB
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Tiger Spirit [9785]
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Re: Well there were also quite a few where the WRs
Nov 27, 2022, 7:42 PM
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Absolutely true.
This WR problem wasn't unique to yesterday's loss.
Remember DJU's pik-six against N.Dame? We learned after the fact that the route was a back-shoulder pass to Ngata. Ngata didn't turn his head around on this timing route; Ngata ran down the field instead of stopping to catch the ball; NDame DB caught an uncontested INT and ran it to the house.
But my oh my ... the chorus of 'DJU bad' rang throughout Tiger land.
(Yes, we need better play than what DJU has given us laterly, but as you've noted we have other serious issues that can't be fixed simply by putting in a not-yet-ready-to-play backup QB.)
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Orange Blooded [2416]
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Re: Well there were also quite a few where the WRs
Nov 27, 2022, 10:23 PM
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Should've already worked thru these problems by now.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:59 PM
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Exactly ! The defense handed the ball over to the offense multiple times in the 3rd and 4th quarter and the offense didn't do diddly squat. The turnovers hurt us but the lack of any offense in the second half especially at the end of the 4th quarter killed us. If DJ comes back next year I think we will lose Cade to the transfer portal. There is no way he stands on the sidelines next year behind a less than average QB.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 5:51 PM
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Pretty sure someone needs to explain the definition of insanity to him.Do the same thing and expect different results. Please don’t wait until we are so far behind to make a move this weekend.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:55 PM
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The overthrows, too much lead on passes, not anticipating the DB on the int for Davis. I have been on the DJ train from the start of the season, but no longer. USuCs defense isn't that good. DJ doesn't have the stones for this game. He's physically capable, but he's got a ghost in his head and he can't get past it. It's time Dabo moves him to TE, RB or some other position. He could be awesome at TE....
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 5:30 PM
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nope
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 5:19 PM
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You must not have watched the game!
At least 6 or 7 dropped passes. All that would have been first downs.
The defense gave up 31 points not DJ
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 6:00 PM
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Well the not rushing but 3 lineman on 3rd and long didn’t help. Giving them the ball on the stupid trick kickoff and getting so conservative on offense with the lead didn’t help. I would say it was a real coaching effort to lose that one. We run a good play and you never see it again till next week. Why not use it again until they stop it. But we will run multiple swing passes that get 2 yards a pop.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 6:08 PM
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The defense put up 9 points as well. They did their job enough to win. They didn’t throw an INT. They didn’t fumble a kick off and punt. They held USC with enough time and field position for a FG.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 7:19 PM
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The defense scored 9 points. The offense was able to score a whopping 21 points agains a terrible coot defense.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 9:24 PM
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The defence essentially scored 9 of our 30 points!!!
So Off vs Off USC won 31-21. You call that good?
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 7:31 PM
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Did you count the times that DJU got hit or had the pass deflected as he was throwing it?
No, you didn't.
He made plenty of bad throws by himself, but most of the incompletions were due to being hit, deflected ball, or throwing the ball away because (a) the protection had broken down and (b) the WRs are not good at getting separation.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 9:47 PM
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Big Stinky and his high balls
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 9:49 PM
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Thrown
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Standout [241]
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:56 PM
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and the N Dame game and the USC debacle will be the point where it turned around and for what ever reason Dabo and DJ lead us into mediocrity because Dabo refuses to make the needed changes Hey guys Sure My donation to IPTAY is in the mail
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:58 PM
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...wow. I didn't expect anything less but it's still pure insanity none the less. I already knew after the ND game that he was gonna ride the DJ bus and die on that hill with him but doesn't mean I have to like it. He's wrong in keeping him in at this point and he has to know it but won't swallow that DJ sized horse pill. It's bad when 99% of the fanbase and the country can now see DJ is not the answer and yet still have the reluctance to make the change. Good luck coach you're sure as sh!t gonna need more of that at this point going forward.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 7:59 PM
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Cade isn't ready yet. DJU, like it or not, is our best chance to win the next game.
After the ACC Champ game, there will be extensive bowl practice. We'll see if that last practice session of the year helps to break Cade from his misguided instinct to bolt from the pocket and roll to the right.
Cade was quick enough to outrun HS LBs and DBs, but isn't fast enough to outrun college LBs and college DBs. If / when he realizes his limitations, then he'll have a chance at being a real contributor. Until then, he needs to learn during practice, and not when it will cost us ballgames.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 10:55 PM
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Cade isn't ready because Dabo didn't get him ready... just like when KB was here the back-up got no reps and we paid for it. Nothing learned!
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 11:42 PM
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You have 0 credibility. You can say Cade Klubnik isn't ready, as you've been saying all year. But here are the stats from yesterday:
8/29 for 99 yards, 3.4 yards per attempt, 1 touchdown, 1 interception. He was outperformed by Darren Grainger at Georgia State, Chris Reynolds at Charlotte, and both the starter at backup at Vanderbilt. The only QB with an argument for doing worse than DJ this year South Carolina has played is Tyrece Nick at South Carolina State, but that ignores that he's a scrambler who rushed for 100 yards and a TD.
South Carolina is NOT a good passing defense. Going into this game, they were just outside the top 35.
Last year, as a sophomore, DJ was the second worst QB in all of college football and the worst in the P5. This year, with his "improvement," he's #66 in accuracy, #81 in yards per attempt, and #63 in passer rating. Having a starting QB who cannot manage to break into the top half of statistics in any stat is a serious problem. We also have 0 proof he's a capable leader. He's the first QB not elected as a co-captain in a very long time (I'm not sure about Parker, but he might be the first one since Streeter).
He is absolutely terrible. None of us have a clue if "Cade is ready." You don't know, nor do I. We've seen him only attempt 20 attempts this year. He rarely sees the field, and when he does, it's in an impossible situation. If you'd actually watch the games, you'd know that. But here's what we do know. We have a joke of a quarterback who's made us a laughing stock. Dabo's loyalty is in serious jeopardy of losing us other recruits. On Saturday, he literally could not have been worse.
I'm glad Cade didn't play on Saturday, because he didn't deserve any portion of the blame for the loss. But I do wonder if he's said he's transferring and that's why Dabo has been so disrespectful to him this season.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 28, 2022, 7:04 AM
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I don’t want to hear anything from you when the day comes when there is a different QB playing and everything looks better. You just echo what the staff says to the media and act like a paid A$$ kisser. You’re arguing with everyone about DJ. Just stop please, it’s insufferable. Unless you’re actually a coach or on the staff, your opinion is just wrong. There is 25 plus games of evidence to prove it.
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Re: 100% predictable***
Nov 27, 2022, 8:37 PM
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I should send Dabo via FedEx a copy of The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. A timeless classic as relevant today as when it was first written. I would hope that even he, in his blinding arrogance, could see the error in his nepotistic hires and right the ship. DJ is a symptom of the disease, not the cause.
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Well Dabo, it’s your team. Enjoy losing to UNC.
Nov 27, 2022, 4:18 PM
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One day you will regret the way you handled the QB situation. Glad I know though because I can find something else to do Saturday night.
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Re: Well Dabo, it’s your team. Enjoy losing to UNC.
Nov 27, 2022, 4:20 PM
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Same thoughts here. I have no desire to watch this team as long as DJ is the starter. Dabo has lost the plot.
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Re: Well Dabo, it’s your team. Enjoy losing to UNC.
Nov 27, 2022, 4:46 PM
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Planning on going to ACC game but that’s a hard pass now. I have watched my last game with DJ as play caller. Everyone says coordinators but you have to have a QB that can process the calls. Locks into first option and that’s it. No pocket presence and therefore play calling is limited.
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Re: Well Dabo, it’s your team. Enjoy losing to UNC.
Nov 27, 2022, 5:52 PM
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Yep - thanks for freeing up 4 hours of my Saturday this week. I have no interest in watching that bad movie anymore. Good luck to all the seniors.
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Re: Well Dabo, it’s your team. Enjoy losing to UNC.
Nov 27, 2022, 8:48 PM
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The DJU haters from last year all said the same thing, but with a different name.
'Bench DJU and play Taisun Phommachan ... what is there to lose?'
Dabo didn't play T.P. because he was afraid of hurting DJU's feelings; he played DJU because T.P. wasn't good enough (last year) to play and win.
TNet's 'DJU haters' howled with disgust ... but these people are silent about their lack of understanding from 2021 about T.P. (As we all know, T.P. portalled his way to GA Tech to be their star QB. GA Tech has lost their #1 and #2 QBs this year, but T.P. still only gets in the game for wildcat plays.) In summary, T.P. not playing for us last year wasn't because Dabo loved DJU more than life itself. It was that T.P. wasn't good enough to beat out DJU, and if T.P. played then our likelihood of winning would go down and our chances of losing would go up.
Now it's 2022, but the names switch from Taisun Phommachan to Cade Klubnik. Dabo and the assistant coaches see Cade in practice and they see DJU in practices ... just as they saw T.P. and DJU in practice last year.
The answer is: Cade isn't ready yet to play. DJU is better, and will therefore play.
If you can't stand to watch Clemson football when Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence is not playing, then it's time to pretty much give up Clemson football forever. I hope that's not your path forward.
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Re: Well Dabo, it’s your team. Enjoy losing to UNC.
Nov 28, 2022, 1:56 PM
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Are you quite serious? I get that Saturday’s play was not completely on DJ (secondary was dismal too), but what is it that you see in DJ's play that warrants staying with him other than some allegiance to him or Dabo? I really am curious because I can’t be sure if it’s him or Streeter, but this throwing to the flats (poorly at that) for most of our pass plays or calling his own number nonsense when you have excellent running backs is painful to watch, regardless of how he stacks up against DW or TL. I get the value of running the QB, but we have sold our soul with that one this year with only marginal success and a 28% completion percentage at home against the chickens is laughable, and can't help but have a negative effect on the rest of the team. He is not good, sluggish and inconsistent and there is no benefit in staying in a losing situation given that he is not the future of Clemson Football. If he does stay, this somehow continues and he is indeed our future, God help us, it will be a long year.
As far as Cade goes, I get the point you're trying to make, but he and Phomm aren't in the same conversation (fifth on Georgia Tech's QB roster...GEORGIA TECH, man!!!). But even if Cade loses, so what? We will likely have the same result with DJ and at least he gets playing time that may reap rewards next year. That, and it might curb the inescapable sense of dread for the fan base, but then I'm probably just being selfish. The fact is, 2 of the season's major 4 goals are now lost, and the opener should really be ignored. The ACC is now in serious doubt, so we're really looking at a total bust in that regard if we lose Saturday.
We hear all the time about Dabo’s success, and call me a DJ hater if you like, but I am unconcerned with how much money Dabo makes to make these decisions or how many trophies he has gotten us. While truly appreciative, I and others here also have eyes and we have every right to be critical when we see obvious deficiencies or poor play, just as we were right to be critical of Kelly Bryant (irrespective of TL’s potential). Even at a time when the ACC was the weakest I have ever seen it, KB was obviously run first, and when he’s not a statue, DJ is becoming more and more like that which makes us one-dimensional and predictable like it did then (just ask Bama). And hell, that's without considering his flair for putting the ball on the ground.
In any case, having concerns and voicing those concerns does not make anyone less of a supporter. We have all invested emotionally and for some, financially in this program and university, so to try and shame us out of valid criticism shows you are only interested in being a homer, seemingly satisfied with squandering a very talented squad. If you are, then you will be complicit in realizing Todd Ellis’ ridiculous statement from years ago that we are 'cycling out', which has the very real potential of being prophetic if we aren't careful. Don't get me wrong, I love Dabo, but winners want to win, and they will go where that's happening. Two years is not an aberration, it is a trend, and they see that.
Ask yourself this, now that we have arrived, would our counterparts, the Alabamas and the OSUs of the world not be just as critical if they saw this? Are the Oklahoma's, the Texas's and the (real) USC's content in being left out? No, they are not, and neither should we. Complacency is a killer and if “Best Is (no longer) The Standard”, then let us know Dabo, because this has gotten awkward to the point that most rational people are asking "what in the complete F…?"
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Game Day Hero [4515]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:18 PM
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He doesn't get the ball close enough to catch ?
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Clemson Conqueror [11165]
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Is streeter still starting OC??***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:19 PM
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Athletic Dir [1147]
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Re: Is streeter still starting OC??***
Nov 27, 2022, 10:58 PM
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I question if he ever was....
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Commissioner [923]
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WTH Dabo***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:19 PM
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CU Medallion [19364]
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I'll be at the ACCCG pulling for TIgers
Nov 27, 2022, 4:20 PM
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Will not be hesitant to critique DJ's play.
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Letterman [154]
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Re: I'll be at the ACCCG pulling for TIgers
Nov 27, 2022, 4:31 PM
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100% agree he got the Tigers to this point have him finish out the year. I'd like to see QB2 get some reps and reading what COACH Dabo said it sounds like he will.
There will be 2 Orange shirts in the crowd cheering on the Tigers Saturday night.
Go Tigers!!!
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Clemson Icon [27024]
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Re: I'll be at the ACCCG pulling for TIgers
Nov 27, 2022, 4:32 PM
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Will be right there with you. Go Tigers!
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Starter [299]
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Re: I'll be at the ACCCG pulling for TIgers
Nov 27, 2022, 5:16 PM
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Dabo had the opportunity to put Cade in when DJ took that hard hit on his hip and he didn't. I wish he would have because I believe we would have won the game.
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Re: I'll be at the ACCCG pulling for TIgers
Nov 27, 2022, 5:39 PM
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Can you give us the lottery numbers too?
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Starter [299]
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Re: I'll be at the ACCCG pulling for TIgers
Nov 27, 2022, 7:03 PM
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What happened after Cade entered the game against Syracuse ? Case closed.
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All-Pro [700]
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Re: I'll be at the ACCCG pulling for TIgers
Nov 27, 2022, 6:20 PM
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He said the same #### after notre dame. Cade has played maybe one series since ND. He’s a ####### liar. I’m Clemson through and through. But I’m not watching another game now
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Letterman [289]
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Oh boy ..
Nov 27, 2022, 4:21 PM
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Here we go ...
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Commissioner [923]
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That a way to show your team that crap play is acceptable and
Nov 27, 2022, 4:21 PM
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Who cares how you perform in a game
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Associate AD [1034]
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He's not the reason we lost only in the sense
Nov 27, 2022, 4:21 PM
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It's the coaches who insist on putting him back out there. Yeah the wrs stink, but it was 3 drops not 28.
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Paw Warrior [4795]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:23 PM
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Dabo better rip down the “Best is the Standard” sign in the locker room because it clearly isn’t any more. Just ridiculous.
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Trainer [46]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:25 PM
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Hasnt been best is the standard for last two years. He is just waiting for Alabama to come available.
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1st Rounder [643]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:23 PM
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Dabo has completely lost his mind. If this is truly his assessment of where things are , maybe Alabama is a good place for him to go. What an Idiot.
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Top TigerNet [28325]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:25 PM
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Yes but he does throw the ball very badly. This was a predictable response. Goodbye Clemson football. Reality is not obvious to this coaching staff.
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Valley Protector [1487]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:28 PM
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We a soccer and softball school anyways
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Rock Defender [63]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:23 PM
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No problem, Dabo. It’s official, you’ve lost this fan, and many many other fans that I know. You are losing the Fanbase. There are a lot of people that are going to get on here & flame me, I could care less. Believe me, I can find something better to do on Saturday night than watch that hot piece of garbage.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:32 PM
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No problem, Dabo. It’s official, you’ve lost this fan, and many many other fans that I know. You are losing the Fanbase. There are a lot of people that are going to get on here & flame me, I could care less. Believe me, I can find something better to do on Saturday night than watch that hot piece of garbage.
Root for another team then...
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Tiger Spirit [9338]
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I suspect he already does.***
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Nov 27, 2022, 4:39 PM
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:45 PM
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If you are only going to root for your team when it's all good, then you're not a fan. Go back to "wherever" you were before last night. I have a feeling you've been rooting for that other s.c. team for a while, which means you know about losing...
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Paw Warrior [4795]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:49 PM
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Or life is short and it’s better to spend your limited time on this earth on things that you enjoy.
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Freshman [9]
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Orange Beast [6575]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
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Nov 27, 2022, 5:16 PM
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No offense but most of the actual fanbase laughs at Tigernet and said if it’s not rivals then it’s a bunch of mouth breathers. Why are the Clemson takes on her so bad compared to Tiger Illustrated….???
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Game Changer [2075]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 7:11 PM
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If you read Tiger illustrated, those guys are laming away just as much as T Netters
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Dynasty Maker [3135]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 10:02 PM
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I would never say something to this extent. But Dabo’s reasoning here is truly a head scratcher. DJ god bless him is one of the worst QBs in D1. And if it is not his fault then changes must be made.
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Dynasty Maker [3135]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 10:03 PM
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I would never say something to this extent. But Dabo’s reasoning here is truly a head scratcher. DJ god bless him is one of the worst QBs in D1. And if it is not his fault then changes must be made.
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Game Day Hero [4167]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:23 PM
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Jesus christ coach. It's fine to name him the starter but to ignore how he hurt the team is unforgivable. Blaming everyone but the guy touching the ball and making bad decisions is disgusting. Slap in the rest of the teams face. This is the type of coddling that has many disgusted.
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Game Changer [1749]
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^^^^ THIS ^^^^
Nov 27, 2022, 6:57 PM
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Reports of our players arguing on the field during a game where fans can see it indicate that there is something seriously wrong with the chemistry within the team. I’ve never seen that in 44 years as aTiger fan.
Mon doubt that comes from giving preferential treatment to some players and holding players to a different standard.
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Recruit [97]
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Nov 27, 2022, 4:24 PM
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Solid Orange [1399]
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Nov 27, 2022, 4:25 PM
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Can anyone confirm DJ’s Clemson address? Is it Swinneys basement??
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Standout [241]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:00 PM
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looks more like Dabos is deep inside Big Daves behind
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Scout Team [87]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:51 PM
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Big Dave has the big $$$$$...?
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Valley Protector [1487]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:25 PM
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Well now I got to find something to fill my time Saturday
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Game Day Hero [4518]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:26 PM
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He haw.. He haw.
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1st Rounder [643]
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Nov 27, 2022, 4:29 PM
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Is it possible that Dabo somehow benefits from DJ’s NIL deal as long as he’s the starter?? I’m serious. I trying to think of some logical reason for this behavior.
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Associate AD [831]
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Nov 27, 2022, 5:36 PM
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I think it is a dumb move by Dabo, but the man gets paid like $10 million a year. DJ's NIL (which likely plummeted from last season) has nothing to do with it.
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Offensive Star [346]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:27 PM
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Good to know. I know what I’m gonna do Saturday night. It won’t be watching the game. Garbage that he watched that game and don’t think DJ is the reason. 8/30 passing. None of his throws were on target, that’s why. So I won’t be watching. Hard to watch an overpaid coach make bad coaching decisions
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Standout [248]
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Hard to believe that
Nov 27, 2022, 4:34 PM
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Anyone will miss your support
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All-Pro [713]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:35 PM
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When the fan support and money stops he will understand that 8 of 29 for 99 is the biggest part of the problem. Not to mention his play has brought every one else down and nothing will change. INSANITY!!!
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Ring of Honor [21613]
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Rival Killer [2664]
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You go right ahead. It’s your team after all.***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:29 PM
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Trainer [45]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:29 PM
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$$$ talk. Stop spending money supporting these guys and change will happen. Pull a TexasA&M and leave the stadium empty at halftime. The message will be heard loud and clear. Never thought I would ever feel this way but something has to give - or the #### is gonna break to the portal and recruits will start backing out….unbelievable
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Associate AD [831]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:37 PM
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Don't show up for the garbage Florida Atlantic game next September.
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All-Conference [412]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:31 PM
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I’ll say it again. DJ has broke Dabo.
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Clemson Conqueror [11165]
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DJ has nothing to do with Dabo's program missteps that......
Nov 27, 2022, 4:34 PM
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has led to this where we are RIGHT NOW.........every decision Dabo made, he made on his own.......he made this bed and now he's sleeping in it.
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Standout [241]
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Re: DJ has nothing to do with Dabo's program missteps that......
Nov 27, 2022, 5:02 PM
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after Amber Herd left him a present in it
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Starter [299]
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Re: DJ has nothing to do with Dabo's program missteps that......
Nov 27, 2022, 6:09 PM
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Program missteps ???? We have won 2 CFP National Championships under Dabo Swinney ! Dabo is trying to be loyal to a player who has paid his dues and I think that is clouding his judgement on this issue but you CAN'T argue with success and Dabo has delivered in his time at our Alma Mater.
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Game Changer [1749]
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Dabo has built one heck of a program …
Nov 27, 2022, 7:22 PM
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… and the winds and championships including two Nattys are the cherries on top.
And I wouldn’t trade the “old Dabo” for any Coach in the country. You remember the “old Dabo” … the man that did things the right way, stood up for his program, and played the kids that DESERVED to play, and everyone was treated the same. The same one that put Sammy Watkins in the doghouse and changed his life for the better.
But somewhere along the way over the last couple of years, we’ve stopped doing things “the right way” and have now started treating players differently.
At some point the truth will come out, but in the mean time, I will pray for Dabo to come out of this spell he’s under and get back to being the man he used to be … and keeping the Main Thing the Main Thing.
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All-In [10589]
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Enjoy Charlotte coach
Nov 27, 2022, 4:32 PM
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I have spent enough last 2 years
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Re: Enjoy Charlotte coach
Nov 27, 2022, 4:35 PM
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I don’t know who Dabo is anymore. Cade probably hits the Portal.
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Nov 27, 2022, 4:56 PM
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My ten a year will not be paid until we get experience on the offensive coaching staff. My season tickets are hereby canceled.
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Ring of Honor [21613]
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Re: Enjoy Charlotte coach
Nov 27, 2022, 5:26 PM
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You don't even pay on this site dude.
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All-Time Great [97815]
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"EVERY JOB IS OPEN EVERY WEEK!"
Nov 27, 2022, 4:33 PM
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Re: "EVERY JOB IS OPEN EVERY WEEK!"
Nov 27, 2022, 4:35 PM
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Well, that settles it for me. I'll be bird hunting Saturday. Won't watch anymore of that pathetic offensive play calling.
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Game Day Hero [4345]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:33 PM
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Dabo must be scared to death of Big Dave.
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Dynasty Maker [3142]
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Prepare to lose the ACCCG to UNC
Nov 27, 2022, 4:36 PM
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...and a bowl game.
Klubnik or bust!
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Commissioner [923]
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Worst is standard***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:36 PM
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:37 PM
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Dabo really needs to humble himself and acknowledge at least to himself that he hired a horrible OC...Streeter...and his starting QB...DJU...is and has been for sometime now way over his head, the game is too fast for him at this level. Dabo you are not bigger than the Program do what's best for the success of the Program.
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Athletic Dir [1147]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 11:25 PM
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What makes you think that Streeter is anything more than a figure head? A mouth piece to repeat what Dabo wants said.... Streeter may be a decent OC if truly given the power to make his own decisions and we will not know...
The reason why Dabo promoted instead of hiring (I believe) is because he thinks that the work of truly gifted (former) coordinators has made him a football god and he put people into place that he could manipulate... I believe that we are seeing the results of Dabo's true football coaching skills. We have one of the most talented teams in the country and this is the product? The only two teams that we have played with a pulse (meaning non ACC teams that we didn't pay to slay) we got "out coached and out played in every phase of the game". Dabo is a great CEO, recruiter, and motivator. He never truly got the coaching experience needed to be a great coach because he spent zero time in a coordinator position... Apparently, he won't "man up and make a play" to admit and fix it.
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Game Changer [1836]
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Re: TNET: Something smells
Nov 27, 2022, 4:38 PM
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Something smells real bad here. The thing DJ can do better is leave football all together. He has single handed given QB's a bad name. The new term in college football for a QB doing terrible will be "DJ ing". His play for 2 years has killed the Tiger defense every time. For now Dabo needs to stop blowing smoke up everyone's butt. This DJ is also known now in college football land as the most valuable player for every team the Tigers have faced. Anybody that thinks this guy is a QB need their head checked. He needs to admit he can't QB a team.
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Nope. Not wasting another weekend on this bs.***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:39 PM
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oof***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:40 PM
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:42 PM
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#### on this…I’ll be in a deer stand Saturday evening.
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I really hate the way this lines up
Nov 27, 2022, 4:43 PM
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With rumors I’ve read since the loss regarding Big Dave and blackmail. I don’t believe any of it but also don’t believe Dabo could possibly be so blind.
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Re: I really hate the way this lines up
Nov 27, 2022, 5:48 PM
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Dumbest post of the day^^^^
And that is quite the accomplishment today.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:43 PM
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sounds like he is happy to win the acc games and lose the SEC or LSU, SC, Ohio State, Georgia, Notre Dame games. mediocre is good enough, plus he has a long contract.
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Poor Dabo > Rich Dabo***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:43 PM
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Re: Poor Dabo > Rich Dabo***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:45 PM
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Way >
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:45 PM
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Oh well that saved me some gas money ...bc I'll b watching at home this week!!!! Go tigers ..go tigers..
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:45 PM
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I can’t watch another snap of this. Dabo has lost his competitive edge.
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Your’e right Dabo, he wasn’t the reason
Nov 27, 2022, 4:46 PM
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we lost the game, you were!!!! Sad that he doesn’t see it still and is so stubborn.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:46 PM
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Dabo has lost his mind. Unless he plans to start DJ at punter. Because that’s about all he is good at. It’s time to let DJ go and start Cade. I had much rather see the freshman play and lose to UNC then watch DJ play another snap at QB. Football season is over. And a stupid ACC trophy or not is meaningless.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:49 PM
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I have 4 tickets for sale . If big stinko is Dabos man I’m done. No season tickets for me next year!
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:49 PM
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Big Stinko? Grow up.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 28, 2022, 7:44 AM
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28% passing completion rate.
I understand and appreciate your being a loyal Clemson fan, but let the people vent. DJ, Dabo and Streeter all deserve a good dose of criticism.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:47 PM
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I love Swinney but right now I am saying he is an idiot. No way you can justify starting that guy. Should not even have to be a question one needs to ask.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:49 PM
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This is completely amazing to me. We saw KB through a season and 4 games. TL started out a bit rough against Tamu, but Dabo pulled KB when it was becoming obvious who was better. Why is he so against playing CK? Is Klubnik that far off? Has our scouting/recruiting become that horrible? Dabo has pulled the trigger on qb switch before, why won't he do it now?
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nah scouting is fine
Nov 27, 2022, 6:26 PM
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just about every school in the country wanted cade. now player development? thats another story.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:49 PM
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Good D luck to him. I have other plans Saturday night and not wasting another weekend on him and his friends.
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Oh boy
Nov 27, 2022, 4:51 PM
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I posted on a thread a few days ago that I was a Clemson fan since before I was born. I grew up listening to Clemson games on the radio. I attended my first game at DV as a high school senior. I only applied to one college and that was Clemson. I attended every home game as a student . We were given a free year of IPTAY for the first year after graduation. I have maintained my IPTAY membership and season tickets every year since. I WILL NOT BE AN ENABLER to the destruction of Clemson football. I am going to find something else to do Saturday night. This will be the first Clemson football game that I have not watched, listened to, or attended since as far back as my memory will go.
I wish the team well and I hope that they win. Dabo may be holding the locker room together but, he is losing is died in the wool fan base.
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 27, 2022, 5:12 PM
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Apparently, you don't remember the 3 previous coaches. Tommy West, bless his heart, gave us the first losing season in years. Ken Hatfield was Dive left, sweep right, throw 3 yard screen, punt. Then there was Tommy Bowden. Energize a fan base, show improvement, lose to an inferior opponent for no good reason.
Dabo has resurrected this program. He has taken chances. His first several co ordinators got us going, but he changed them out when it was obvious they needed to be improved on. One of our x o.c.s is now the UF H.C. Kevin Steele was dropped when he was no longer effective. Dabo hired a FRIGGIN high school coach and THAT offense got us to the Natty.
Give Dabo a chance to cool down. Getting hammered about a bad decision sometimes leads to more bad decisions; sometimes ya got to cool down to think with a level head. Dabo got us here. Give the man a chance to correct mistakes
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 27, 2022, 5:27 PM
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I remember those coaches and games very well. This feels different to me for some reason. I cannot believe that every backup QB on the team throws worse than DJ. We don’t know what they can do because they have not been given a fair chance. Our former players are calling the coaches out on social media. Look at what Jacoby Ford posted yesterday about having two QBs.
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 27, 2022, 6:06 PM
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Plus, we also have a current player Shipley yesterday questioning play calling right after the game. And, I will got out on a limb here by saying I am pretty sure shipley is not the only player questioning the decision making going on.
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 27, 2022, 8:06 PM
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Hi TigerGirlGA,
Just curious ... when watching DJU struggle last year (and he was clearly not ready last year), did you call for Taisun Phommachahn to be put in to play QB?
Many on TNet pined for T.P. to replace DJU.
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 27, 2022, 10:55 PM
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Yes,there were times that I thought Taisun should have been given a chance.
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 27, 2022, 7:16 PM
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Now we have run up the middle-throw to the sideline-throw to the sideline again-punt
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I wish you were right about correcting mistakes…
Nov 27, 2022, 7:36 PM
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… but all I see is Dabo digging his heels in.
To correct mistakes, you need to have clarity and objective analysis. That doesn’t seem to be happening right now.
Unfortunately, for most people it is easier to be wrong and double down than to admit that you were wrong… ?
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I wish you were right about correcting mistakes…
Nov 27, 2022, 7:36 PM
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… but all I see is Dabo digging his heels in.
To correct mistakes, you need to have clarity and objective analysis. That doesn’t seem to be happening right now.
Unfortunately, for most people it is easier to be wrong and double down than to admit that you were wrong… ?
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 28, 2022, 10:08 AM
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Wow!! You are the first comment I am reading that I 101% wholeheartedly agree!!!! I am tired of reading these negging, whining and just utterly disgusting comments how they been fans for life ( big BS ) and they are going to leave now.. ### is wrong with today’s water or something.. everyone that is whining here are so ungrateful and entitled fans… dang!! I am just tired of them. We have 2 double digits wining (down season for these whiners) and you are crying like babies… Grow the fork up babies!!
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 28, 2022, 6:54 PM
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Amen
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 27, 2022, 8:00 PM
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Nov 27, 2022, 4:51 PM
Reply
I posted on a thread a few days ago that I was a Clemson fan since before I was born. I grew up listening to Clemson games on the radio. I attended my first game at DV as a high school senior. I only applied to one college and that was Clemson. I attended every home game as a student . We were given a free year of IPTAY for the first year after graduation. I have maintained my IPTAY membership and season tickets every year since. I WILL NOT BE AN ENABLER to the destruction of Clemson football. I am going to find something else to do Saturday night. This will be the first Clemson football game that I have not watched, listened to, or attended since as far back as my memory will go.
I wish the team well and I hope that they win. Dabo may be holding the locker room together but, he is losing is died in the wool fan base.
dont let the door hit you in the a$$
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Re: Oh boy ... ballpark: How long have U been Clemson fan?
Nov 27, 2022, 8:12 PM
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Always good to read things from a long-time fan.
Your comment about 'not being an enabler to the destruction of Clemson football' got my attention.
Approx how long (not asking for specifics; anonymity is a prized feature of a message board) have you been passionately watching Clemson football?
10 years? 25 years?
The length of time (your frame of reference) matters.
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Re: Oh boy ... ballpark: How long have U been Clemson fan?
Nov 28, 2022, 6:41 AM
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Willie Jordan is the first Clemson QB that I can remember. Have purchased season tickets since Mike Eppley.
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 28, 2022, 7:00 AM
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I have been a Clemson fan a long time. The screen door is not hitting me anywhere. I am not a blind follower. I will speak up and hold people accountable when necessary. I love Clemson too much to see it being laughed at nationally.
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 28, 2022, 10:15 AM
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Nov 27, 2022, 4:51 PM
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I posted on a thread a few days ago that I was a Clemson fan since before I was born. I grew up listening to Clemson games on the radio. I attended my first game at DV as a high school senior. I only applied to one college and that was Clemson. I attended every home game as a student . We were given a free year of IPTAY for the first year after graduation. I have maintained my IPTAY membership and season tickets every year since. I WILL NOT BE AN ENABLER to the destruction of Clemson football. I am going to find something else to do Saturday night. This will be the first Clemson football game that I have not watched, listened to, or attended since as far back as my memory will go.
I wish the team well and I hope that they win. Dabo may be holding the locker room together but, he is losing is died in the wool fan base.
dont let the door hit you in the a$$
ClemsonGirlGA, Absolutely hard to believe that you have been fan since birth or before birth…but I admit today’s cancel culture and liberals hecks ideology have been dominating most of these cry babies here that are entitled fans! If I don’t get the way I want I will quit / cancel.. GO AHEAD!!! Or calm the fork down… and rethink. We hate to loose fans like you. You must been affected by COVID - CANCEL - CULTURE disease. Bless your heart!!
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 28, 2022, 11:31 AM
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My dad was a Tiger fan that scraped together his IPTAY dues and season ticket money. He never set foot in a college classroom. I have a Clemson degree and 39 years of IPTAY/Season tickets to back me up. I am straight up who I say I am, a tiger since birth. My brother is a lifelong tiger also. He did not attend college, does not have money for IPTAY and tickets so I take him to games too. I am not quitting Clemson football. I am just holding people accountable because I love the school that much. I am currently having a disagreement with how Dabo is handling the QB situation. After sitting through the DJ experiment for two years, I have decided to take a break Saturday and possibly the bowl game. Hopefully Dabo corrects the problems in the off season. If not, Neff has a problem.
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Re: Oh boy
Nov 27, 2022, 10:14 PM
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We have been through allot of bad and underperforming seasons in my lifetime. I will watch and wonder why Dabo continues to start DJ. But I will pull for my Tigers and for DJ to hopefully get hot and Streeter (or Dabo as he seems to have his hands in the play calling at this point) to learn how to call plays.
This decision baffles me especially considering Dabo said we had a great QB room. I love Dabo for all he has done for this program, but if we have learned anything this year, it is don’t listen to a word about how good Dabo says a player is.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:53 PM
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Best is not the standard.
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Clown. Show.***
Nov 27, 2022, 4:54 PM
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:54 PM
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Accept that Dabo is our coach and support our entire team or support another team. We are all disappointed that we lost but we have lost with better teams and won with lesser teams and that's football.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:36 PM
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I support the positive and negative comments.
You don’t get to decide who we support or what team we support. It’s called freedom of speech. You don’t get to cancel it.
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I still support the TEAM and always will …
Nov 27, 2022, 7:49 PM
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… but there is something terribly wrong with the Clemson TEAM in Tigertown right now… and it has absolutely nothing to do with losing games.
There’s a negative force that is changing people within the team, starting at the top. I’ve never seen Dabo so negative .. ever.
He said his wife and sons, and dog love him unconditionally… but i hope he realizes that so does most of Tiger Nation!
I hope he prays for enlightenment so he can go back to being the “old” Dabo.
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Dabo: "Ike is not the reason Tina Turner got divorced"
Nov 27, 2022, 4:56 PM
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"The atom bomb is not the reason Japan surrendered"
"The moon is not the reason we have tides."
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Re: Dabo: "Ike is not the reason Tina Turner got divorced"
Nov 27, 2022, 8:24 PM
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Sure, you're mad just like me and pretty much everyone on here. Losing to S.Carolina stinks and we screwed up more in the loss than S.Carolina 'won' the game.
But don't you think that the 'DJU is playing QB because Dabo has become stupid' thing is just a bit too much lashing out in frustration over the loss?
Has it occurred to you that DJU is actually our best option for winning games THIS YEAR ... as opposed to putting in Cade?
Clemson is not the type of program that will consciously risk losing games now in hopes that a backup can gain experience and win at some point in future years.
Those 'OK to lose now' teams who choose to try to develop their QBs for the future at the Pitt / Duke / BC / Wake / UVA / Vandy / Northwestern / S.Florida type schools.
Dabo has proven that he will change QBs if the backup is the better chance to win (see the rise of D.Watson and T.Lawrence).
He didn't play Taisun Phommchan over DJU last year because T.P. wasn't any good. TNet fans howled to 'give him a chance.' We win 10 games last year and T.P. portals to GA Tech. T.P. only plays in wildcat formations ... he can't even start after GA Tech's first string and second string QB go down.
Cade isn't playing for a reason, and that reason is that he's not ready yet. If you want to dismiss Dabo because Cade isn't good enough yet, than that's fine. But it's wrong to assume that he wants to lose ... proof being that he won't bench DJU for Cade.
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who said it's because he's stupid?
Nov 27, 2022, 11:01 PM
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Ego, promises made during recruiting that he doesn't feel able to break, overly-emotional attachment to the kid....who knows, there are plenty of reasons besides stupidity that Dabo could be keeping DJ in there that have nothing to do with a talent discrepancy. I do know that Dabo is currently peeing on our leg and telling us it's raining when it comes to taking questions on DJ's performance....do you think that might indicate some sort of blind loyalty to player who simply hasn't earned it on the field?
And as for Cade losing if he were in? You don't know that any more than I, any other fan, or even Dabo does, because he hasn't had the ball put in his hands and been given a chance on an even playing field to lose a game. The one time he was put in for more than a meaningless series in a situation where the odds weren't incredibly stacked against him, he only won a game for us that DJ had lost.
DJ is simply bad and a liability to the point that it's worth giving Cade more game time in fair situations, not to concede the game or give him time for next year, but because the odds are so high that there's zero drop off and likely improvement over DJ, practice be dammmned.
You, me, Dabo, or Streeter hasn't really seen what Cade can do in a live-game experience with the playbook opened, and with the play of the guy ahead of him, that's inexcusable.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 4:57 PM
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Looks like I will do some crocheting next Saturday evening.
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Coaches are really defensive when someone dares to
Nov 27, 2022, 4:57 PM
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ask about QB situation. They get paid a ton to answer such questions, but instead act like the questioner is at fault for asking. Sensitive much?
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Re: Coaches / defensive: Here' s why
Nov 27, 2022, 8:29 PM
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Coaches are sensitive to questions which, if answered directly, reveal that the 2nd string player isn't ready to be a 1st string player.
Coaches don't want to embarrass that 2nd string player by saying that he's not good enough yet ... even in the aftermath of an awful loss.
Therefore, the positive spin approach is deployed.
The correct narrarive is "DJU is our starter; he did not lose the game by himself."
The wrong narrative is "Cade hasn't developed as quickly as we had hoped, and therefore is not yet a viable option at QB. Our best chance of winning, which isn't the way I'd like it, is for DJU to keep starting at QB."
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Re: Coaches / defensive: Here' s why
Nov 27, 2022, 9:29 PM
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You've made some good points here and in your last few posts. We all know that it is possible that Cade is not as good as DJ currently, or at least we hope that is true in practice. Otherwise we have problems too big for us to contemplate.
The real issue that most of us have is that he was not given any opportunities to get better during early games when we had the chance. If he was good enough to throw into the fire in an impossible situation vs Syracuse, then surely he was good enough to get more reps to prepare him for when or if he was needed. It is pretty obvious that Dabo sacrificed his development opportunities in favor of trying to build DJ's confidence enough to be serviceable.
We may never know whether the former would have worked, but we know that the latter was a complete failure.
We also know that Hunter Johnson was a pretty serviceable veteran, but we never saw him either. Either would have been better than DJ in the second half, and probably in a lot of other games too.
Most knowledgeable football fans knew from the beginning of last year that DJ was too slow mentally and physically to play QB. Unless our coaches are blind, they knew this too. The only question is why did they not bring in someone else, or push a lot harder to get CK or HJ ready?
I also will not be watching anymore live games with DJ at QB. Not out of protest, although I understand if some do. I just can't for my health and my marriage. I get too upset with him and the coaches, and loose my composure. I am still a Clemson fan, and will still pull for them to win. I will record the games, and maybe try to watch them after I know the outcome. We all have to do what we think is best for us. Bashing others for their opinions or decisions probably won't change either.
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Orange Blooded [2416]
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Re: Coaches / defensive: Here' s why
Nov 27, 2022, 10:28 PM
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I don't blame you one bit. However, I know my heart rate is not changed watching on delay. I live for this shitzu. And DJ is a true disappointment. Proceed sir and best wishes to you and your wife.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:00 PM
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“Best is the standard” needs to get wiped from Clemson’s campus
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National Champion [7463]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:01 PM
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They can just change it to Best was the Standard.
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Commissioner [978]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:01 PM
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That means we just lost to UNC........
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110%er [7157]
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OMG***
Nov 27, 2022, 5:02 PM
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Athletic Dir [1142]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:02 PM
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A great philosopher once said, there is none so blind as one who refuses to see. Yet, still, we may wear the ACC crown come Saturday. What a hollow trophy that must be regardless of who hoists it.
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Standout [241]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:07 PM
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yes another pretty participation trophy Just like the one last year from the Cheeze It bowl
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Ring of Honor [21613]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:30 PM
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You are an idiot.
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Valley Legend [12903]
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Gee whiz....smh.***
Nov 27, 2022, 5:03 PM
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Recruit [97]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:07 PM
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I just wish someone would have the sack to say "yes, I think he's the reason you lost"
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Valley Legend [12903]
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Or at least "a very significant contributing factor" in it.***
Nov 27, 2022, 5:27 PM
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Game Changer [1760]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:09 PM
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Thank you Dabo for coming out and stating the obvious. I can save my gas money to Charlotte. No trip for me and I probably won't even watch on TV.
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Starter [294]
TigerPulse: 94%
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:20 PM
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Dabo is right, DJ is not the reason we lost,he's the reason we didn't win
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Orange Blooded [2102]
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This, my dear Tigers…
Nov 27, 2022, 5:11 PM
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is the definition of insanity.
The man has completely lost his mind.
Stubborn. Complacent. Proud. Delusional. Insane.
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Valley Protector [1404]
TigerPulse: 100%
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DJ is trying his hardest
Nov 27, 2022, 5:12 PM
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You should get the job for performance and not for giving effort alone. Disappointed with the coaches to say the least
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Legend [7077]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:18 PM
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Cade suffered an AC joint injury on his right shoulder last season. Could it be his shoulder is still not right? Some of his passes lacked the zip I saw on film. I don’t know. Just grasping. If he’s healthy and not a better option than DJ at this point, we have to admit he’s vastly over rated.
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Recruit [76]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:41 PM
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I've been a Tiger since before I can remember. I graduated in 1976, and have supported them through lots of bad times. We have been on an incredible run with Dabo. I admire and respect his Christian beliefs, and how he has improved so many young men's lives. I don't understand what has caused him to go against so many of his stated principles with DJ. Hopefully one day it will become clear, and I will understand.
Until then, I can't subject my heart, blood pressure, wife, or marriage to anymore of the DJ fiasco. I can't keep my composure watching the obvious mistakes from DJ and the coaching staff knowing that they are not even going to try anything else. I will record the games, and maybe try to watch them later after I know the outcome. Maybe I can just evaluate the games better without being emotionally involved. Maybe then, I will see what Dabo sees, but I doubt it.
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Game Day Hero [4448]
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Right there with you
Nov 27, 2022, 6:11 PM
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Agree with everything you said.
It is hard to watch this team. The NC State was pretty impressive. The rest have been gut wrenching to watch.
With slightly above average QB play we would likely be in the CFP hunt.
This offensive went completely away from the run game when were dominating with it in first half. Similar to Miami game Q3.
Team will hold everyone but DJ and OC accountable
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Orange Blooded [2200]
TigerPulse: 89%
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I don't care what anyone else post or says, something...
Nov 27, 2022, 5:28 PM
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...is WAY wrong here. Literally 24 hours ago Dabo said practice week would determine who the starter is, now it's DJ, no doubt. Something is really really wrong. Dabo has become unrecognizable as the coach who lead us to two natty's.
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Game Day Hero [4448]
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Re: I don't care what anyone else post or says, something...
Nov 27, 2022, 6:13 PM
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Something else is going on with this team.
Different sets of rules for players making $500k
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110%er [3735]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:29 PM
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DJ’s our guy…tweet that
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Recruit [77]
TigerPulse: 82%
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:37 PM
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The biggest concern going forward is next year should DJ return. The ACCCG and Bowl are inconsequential.
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Top TigerNet [31186]
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Hubris
Nov 27, 2022, 5:34 PM
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Varsity [103]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:39 PM
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Yall might want to also look at what our OC called on plays and how he did NOT adjust.... where is that blame...evidently the OC the chickens had a better plan...guess that saved his job!
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All-Pro [756]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:42 PM
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I’m not surprised one bit
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All-Conference [429]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:43 PM
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Disappointed to hear that DJ is starting next week. Once again the blame for the loss gets passed around to everyone but the qb. There was fumbles and a few dropped passes, but once again the offense had plenty of opportunities to score. DJ lost all his confidence in the second half. He threw for 13 yards and looked lost out there. CDS, it’s okay to throw some shade his way! Please make changes.
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Dynasty Maker [3222]
TigerPulse: 100%
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If I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet
Nov 27, 2022, 5:44 PM
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I wouldn't be more surprised than I am now
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Scout Team [183]
TigerPulse: 87%
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:45 PM
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I think Dabo has lost his ability to be objective. Why, I don't know. But to defend the horrible play of DJ by blaming others is just not being realistic. He could have admitted that DJ's performance hurt us. But he didn't. I'd like to know why.
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Freshman [9]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:54 PM
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I thought I was smoking on some good stuff but obviously not as good as Dabo. He’s had no problem calling out some of our defensive players this year but every week it’s a pity party for DJ. We need to bring some fresh minds in from outside of the program instead of promoting yes men.
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1st Rounder [654]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:51 PM
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Best used to be the standard….. I guess if our best at that position is 8/29 and a pick on a terrible throw then we’re in for some real pain the next few years. I understand he’s not the only reason we lost, but he graded a losing number I’m sure of that. I’m curious to hear if he thought the playing calling on offense was our best as well?! This is becoming a joke and fast
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Scout Team [183]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 5:52 PM
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I think Dabo has lost his ability to be objective. Why, I don't know. But to defend the horrible play of DJ by blaming others is just not being realistic. He could have admitted that DJ's performance hurt us. But he didn't. I'd like to know why.
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Starter [251]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 6:11 PM
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I may start him, but the first time I get a whiff of one of his so-so performances, I’d sit him and see what Cade can do. It’s not personal, it’s business….heck, everybody has seen that movie!
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Mascot [23]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 6:14 PM
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What is going on here? Why is he protecting this QB, to the point of making this team and himself a joke? Believe it or not Dabo, but some fans and analysts do know a little about football. His arrogance is pissing of his most loyal fans (really insulting them) and is risking the loss of great talent... current talent and future recruits. I don't get it. Surely folks on the board see this???
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Orange Blooded [2594]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 6:26 PM
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So we’re at the point of the QB is the starter if he doesn’t loose the game for us? DW and TL won games for us. And could complete more than 8 passes. But maybe the offensive coordinator isn’t good enough. Sure you can point to a fumble at the end, but 8 of 29 made it so we had to try and win.
GO TIGERS!
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National Champion [7665]
TigerPulse: 97%
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100% BS …… Enough is enough with that crap
Nov 27, 2022, 6:30 PM
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Dabo just give it up man…..ain’t nobody drinking your kool-aid anymore and believing this lie except your “yes man” assistant coaches…..and even them except for maybe Streeter go home after practice and tell their wife’s Dabo is full of crap and DJ is awful… enough with all your BS ……all that money has made you lose your frigging mind!
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Trainer [27]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 6:45 PM
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Dabo better understand one thing, DJ was part of the reason they lost! Ok, Dabo, get of your stubbornness and open your ears and eyes, because like Coach Mark Richt said the other night, your loyalty to DJ has comeback to bite you in the rear end! DJ can’t take pressure, he can maintain his poise, he’s very very inconsistent in his passing, and he is INT prone! The team has tried to make up for that dead weight long enough! It’s time to move on from DJ, and then move on from Streeter and Grisham too! You need to go hire either David Shaw, Cliff Kingsberry, Sonny Briels, Steve Edsminger, Josh McDaniel, Joe Brady, or Urban Myer for OC, and then go hire a WR/TE Coach too! Plenty of WR/TE Coaches out there, or get a former NFL retired WR Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, or Terrell Owens. TE’s Coach heck hire Dewight Clark, Dewayne Carswell, or Tony Gonzalez to come in and Coach/Recruit high quality WR’s/TE’s! As for a QB Coach, need to hire Vince Young, Micheal Vick, or Tahj Boyd. BY GOD DABO ITS TIME TO HIRE QUALITY! One thing to loose, but to loose like this, man I rather have played Notre Dame again and got funeral lysed again! Stop with the STUBBORNEST DABO, and start listening to the fan base, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
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All-In [11066]
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I agree coaching staff changes need to be made, but....
Nov 27, 2022, 11:16 PM
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Some of your suggestions are hilarious! Urban Meyer? No thanks! And Dwight Clark died over four years ago!
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Recruit [92]
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The response from Larry Williams should have been..
Nov 27, 2022, 6:48 PM
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‘No, Dabo, I think you are the reason we lost the game. Your inability to admit you are wrong and bench DJ is the reason we lost the game.’
The decision to start DJ in the ACCCG is no surprise at all. If Cade started and blew up in that game - passing for 5 TDs, that would mean Dabo has been wrong all season and we can’t have Dabo looking bad can we?
It’s sad when the coach puts his own ego above what is clearly best for his team.
I’ve never seen the fan base this united with almost no dissenting opinions regarding our qb situation. Unfortunately, no one close to Dabo has the guts to give him the truth and I doubt he sees the outrage on the message boards.
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Trainer [27]
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Re: The response from Larry Williams should have been..
Nov 27, 2022, 6:56 PM
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I’m fixing to write in to the Bill King show for tomorrow segment Bills Balls of Steel, give Dabo not only a no balls of steel for not pulling DJ, but those around Dabo a Nutless and Gutless not forcing change at the QB. Wonder why Brent actually left Clemson, cause of DJ! Dabo needs to wake up!
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Recruit [92]
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The response from Larry Williams should have been..
Nov 27, 2022, 6:48 PM
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‘No, Dabo, I think you are the reason we lost the game. Your inability to admit you are wrong and bench DJ is the reason we lost the game.’
The decision to start DJ in the ACCCG is no surprise at all. If Cade started and blew up in that game - passing for 5 TDs, that would mean Dabo has been wrong all season and we can’t have Dabo looking bad can we?
It’s sad when the coach puts his own ego above what is clearly best for his team.
I’ve never seen the fan base this united with almost no dissenting opinions regarding our qb situation. Unfortunately, no one close to Dabo has the guts to give him the truth and I doubt he sees the outrage on the message boards.
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MVP [545]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 6:53 PM
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Just a ridiculous response by Dabo.
He’s right, DJ doesn’t return kicks or miss tackles, but he also went 3 for 15 for 13 yards and an interception in the second half.
DJ is a problem. A major problem. And Dabo continuing to ignore this is very worrisome.
Just for the record, Dabo is a personal hero of mine. But something is terribly wrong here as far as the QB situation.
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Trainer [27]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 6:59 PM
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Pack DJ up, pack his stuff and ship him back to California! And make it know, never ever recruit a QB out of the state of California ever, ever, ever again!!!
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Game Changer [1784]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 7:16 PM
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Bryce Young says "Hi. Come to CA and see my Heisman trophy."
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Game Changer [2075]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 7:05 PM
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Does Dabo know that our safety doesn't play quarterback?
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Game Changer [1784]
TigerPulse: 67%
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It's only Sunday but Dabo (not Streeter) named DJ as starter
Nov 27, 2022, 7:33 PM
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On another article about Streeter's post-game comments, people were blaming Streeter for starting DJ. But Dabo's statement on Sunday clearly indicates that it's Dabo's decision to start DJ come hell or high water, and Cade has no chance whatsoever to earn the starting job. Dabo didn't say that "Coach Streeter plans to go with DJ at this point but we'll see how they perform in practice."
Cade is a 3X Texas state champ and Gatorade player of the year. He was an early enrollee. He looked better than DJ in the spring game. It's unimaginable that after 11-months on campus, he can't at least match if not exceed DJ's mediocre performance.
Dabo should start Cade in the ACCCG so that DJ transfers. Otherwise DJ will get a low draft-grade, return, and Cade will transfer. (Max Duggan is off to the NFL, and TCU would be a great landing spot for Cade. TCU is closer to home, and has a dynamic offense that could put him in the Heisman race.)
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Freshman [-100]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 7:37 PM
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Really getting tired of this non sense
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1st Rounder [621]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 7:46 PM
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I think a lot of our team and WR attitude/production is a direct reflection on DJ continuing to play. No one person is solely responsible for a win or loss with football being a team sport. At this point though, I think starting DJ is demoralizing the entire team and bringing overall production down. I gotta think our offense knows its gonna be an uphill battle and our defense feels the pressure knowing they have no margin for error. DJ playing is draini g morale.
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Athletic Dir [874]
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Please get DJ out of that starting position
Nov 27, 2022, 8:25 PM
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It's very obvious to everyone that he is horrible. That's just the truth.
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1st Rounder [650]
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Nov 27, 2022, 8:27 PM
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I have attended all of the home games this year, as I always do. I think it is quite clear our offense is very hesitant to throw the ball deep, or frankly downfield much at all. What a change from the "Clemson Offense" that was going to stay with us when Rich Rodrigues and Chad Morris left. I guess I don't understand why we still recruit the absolute best quarterbacks in the country each year, but now feel restricted to a running game or passes to the sideline?
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Freshman [1]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 8:40 PM
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DJ is not capable of withstanding game pressure. I'm an old man and I've seen football for a long time. He might be a good fullback, but he is not a thrower. I've even played and I myself know what it feels like to get a little up tight. The ball just won't go where it should. You could see it in the game, as if something had turned off. It is psychological and DJ does not have a QB personality. I think coach is cruel to keep DJ in the game when he has clutched. It is also achieving the opposite of the intended affect to say "He's our man! (We are relying on you.)" That brings on the clutch earlier and it is more intense, since DJ feels more like a failure. So, run him as a fullback(a heavy tailback). Use him for an occasional thrower from that position. But don't keep putting him through the trauma. I guarantee he won't get into Pros, so it isn't worth it.
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Walk-On [74]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 8:50 PM
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Then he’s ready for the assisted living home, he obviously has alzheimers
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Walk-On [74]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 8:51 PM
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Then he’s ready for the assisted living home, he obviously has alzheimers
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Walk-On [122]
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OK, well......good luck with that.....***
Nov 27, 2022, 9:03 PM
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 9:39 PM
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Dabo must be the only one who can’t see it. After watching USC, Gamecocks, and the other contenders, the kid just doesn’t have an elite QB bone in his body. He’s clumsy, stiff, and not quick or accurate. I don’t know what Dabo sees in him, or what he’s got on Dabo, but it’s time for a QB change or a head coaching change. Time for the AD to have a word with him.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 9:39 PM
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Dabo must be the only one who can’t see it. After watching USC, Gamecocks, and the other contenders, the kid just doesn’t have an elite QB bone in his body. He’s clumsy, stiff, and not quick or accurate. I don’t know what Dabo sees in him, or what he’s got on Dabo, but it’s time for a QB change or a head coaching change. Time for the AD to have a word with him.
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Mascot [19]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 9:46 PM
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Is it worth it for losing! Why Kelly Bryant and not DJ? I don't have to make 10 million to see the problem. Hey, give me 5 bucks and 2 more Nattys with Cade.
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Freshman [2]
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Nov 27, 2022, 9:47 PM
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Dabo must be the only one who can’t see it. After watching Rattler, the Heisman guy from USC, Ohio State and the other contenders, it’s clear as glass that DJUianguleiei, just doesn’t have the sauce to be an elite QB at the D1 level. He’s clumsy, flat footed, indecisive, stiff, inaccurate, and painful to watch. I don’t know what he has on Dabo, or what Dabo sees in him, but I know this: It’s time for a QB change or a head coaching change. I think the Athletic Director needs to have a word with him. If he won’t IPTAY will.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 10:04 PM
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No more contract extensions for this guy. He has lost his daggum mind.
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Rival Killer [2896]
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What if...?
Nov 27, 2022, 10:10 PM
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What if Dabo said this just to let UNC prepare to feast off DJ next Saturday, but in practice this week he lets Cade run with the ones? They take the field next Saturday and go, "Oh crap, we've been duped!"
(Yeah I seriously doubt that would happen, but we can dream, right?)
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 27, 2022, 10:30 PM
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I appreciate loyalty, but not denial. When is the last time Clemson threw 29 passes and had less than 100 yards to show for it, and the majority of that coming on 1 pass? Dabo is coach and none of us are qualified to replace him, but I think the vast majority of fans think that Klubnik deserves to have more playing time, at least sharing time with DJ, much like TL did with Bryant. Bryant was not a great passing QB, but he never had a game where he performed as poorly as DJ did against USC.
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Slow Motion Train Wreck!
Nov 27, 2022, 11:23 PM
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Soooo I watched all last year and KNEW (like everyone did except Dabo) that DJ could not win us a Championship, and was at best a mediocre QB. I never called for Taisun to start because it was obvious he was not a QB either. So I twiddled my thumbs and watched us play our way into a mediocre season (by Clemson standards) waiting on our next “QB” to come in and save us……we’ll apparently that isn’t going to happen.
Now I ask myself why and I can only come up with 1 of 2 answers.
Option 1 - We whiffed on Cade and he is so bad that we just have to ride with DJ until Vizzina comes in.
Option 2 - DJ is marginally better than Cade. Our coaches are so arrogant and closed minded that they would rather ride the low ceiling of DJ than give Cade the chance to ascend to a much higher Ceiling. At least a chance!!!
Maybe I’m off base, but watching Clemson football since DJ took over isn’t fun (it’s not just his fault) It’s stagnant and painful to watch. It’s not about wins or loses. It’s an eye test thing. When is the last time (even during a big win) you enjoyed watching our offense? I would rather lose a few extra games letting a young talented freshman grow up, than watch what we have become the last 2 years.
I know DJ is an excellent kid and I don’t intend to tear him down as a person. He just isn’t a starting QB. It’s ok to say that and still respect him as a person. I’m not a starting QB either and it doesn’t hurt my feelings lol. Having said that……These people ripping Dabo to shreds need to have a little perspective. We as a fan base have become spoiled entitled little brats. He is an excellent coach, but he is also a flawed person. His biggest flaw IMHO (and has been for years) is he is loyal to a fault. He has shown this so many times over the years with coaches and players. I just wish he was quicker to make the hard decisions. This is a business, and sometimes you have to hurt some feelings to get things done. Hopefully Cade or Vizzina (and some coaching changes) can make this all a bad memory and Tiger Nation can get back to talking about natties!
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Athletic Dir [1147]
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Re: Slow Motion Train Wreck!
Nov 28, 2022, 12:50 AM
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What about being loyal to the rest of the players on the team??? Cade simply is a better QB than DJ... If Dabo thinks that we believe otherwise then that is more evidence of his lunacy. And if this staff did take a second (meaning Cade... DJ was the first) highly recruited QB and turned him into something worse than what DJ has become then they all need to be fired today!
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 28, 2022, 2:01 AM
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No the reason we lost was a three letter word called "ego".
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 28, 2022, 6:12 AM
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It's Dabo's fault...DJ should have not be in a position to lose the game...
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 28, 2022, 8:32 AM
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DJ's last year
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 28, 2022, 10:04 AM
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I’m sorry, Dabo….but it’s gotten to the point that lately you’re throwing other players under the bus to defend DJ, and that just ain’t right. How about the fact that DJ touches the ball on every play on offense and if he does throw an accurate pass, it looks like a wounded duck. Can we teach the kid to throw a tight spiral for cryin’ out loud! You don’t have to be a QB whisperer to know that’s an easier ball to catch.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 28, 2022, 10:16 AM
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1st Rounder [674]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 28, 2022, 8:46 PM
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I've been a staunch supporter of Dabo and always will be. He's the reason we have enjoyed unparalleled success.
But I don't understand the game plan last Saturday. The reason we lost the game is that we went away from our strengths with this team. This team's offensive strengths are clearly OL and RB, and clearly not QB and WR. Yet though we averaged 6 yards per rush, we continually kept asking our QB and WR's to win the game for us and went away from what was clearly working. They never stopped the run all day long. We'd pick up first downs on the ground and then throw 3 straight passes and punt. I just don't get it.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says DJ Uiagalelei is still the starting QB
Nov 29, 2022, 4:37 PM
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DJ was over rated QB comming out of high school hes been the worst QB we had in the last 4 QB
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