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Legend [19640]
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Tom Davis just announced he will not run against
Feb 1, 2013, 2:30 PM
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Liberal Lindsay Graham. Worst news I've heard since the first week of Novemeber.
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Re: Tom Davis just announced he will not run against
Feb 1, 2013, 2:31 PM
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oops, meant to go to the politics board. Oh well, at least it's in the amphitheatre....
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All-In [28802]
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Lindsey Graham is not liberal
Feb 1, 2013, 2:32 PM
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that is a laughable assertion
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Re: Lindsey Graham is not liberal
Feb 1, 2013, 2:34 PM
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lmao, dude do you want me to show you his voting record? He's one of the biggest neocons in the republican party.
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and, once again, "neo-con" does not equal liberal
Feb 1, 2013, 2:59 PM
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That assertion is laughable.
And, yes, please show me his voting record.
According to Heritage Action for America, he's about as conservative as the average GOP Senator (rated 73% on his votes): http://heritageactionscorecard.com/scorecard/index.html#G000359#member
According the American Conservative Union, which is the gold standard for conservative vote ratings, he has a lifetime score in the high 80s.
So how is he liberal, again? Just because he disagreed with you on one issue or another? You need to pay better attention.
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Re: and, once again, "neo-con" does not equal liberal
Feb 1, 2013, 3:12 PM
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neoconsertive came about in the 60's when democrates left the party to join the republican party, so yes. Your equation adds up.
You know what those conservative groups consider conservative? Spending trillions of dollars over seas.....that's not conservative....Going by that is like using a gamecock site to get a list of the best head coaches in ncaa history.
Lindsay voted for 2 liberal supreme court justice, including Roberts who shafted us on ObamaCare
Supported Amnesty....
Supported the Patriot Act
Supported NDAA
Supported NationalID
Supported the spending of trillions of dollars while in office.
Supported the TARP bailouts
Support international welfare
I could keep going but I don't have all day....
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no, that's not really where neoconservatism came from***
Feb 1, 2013, 5:23 PM
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Re: no, that's not really where neoconservatism came from***
Feb 1, 2013, 7:02 PM
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Ugh yeah it is. Go look it up. The guy who coined the phrased admitted as much.
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When you are Paleo-Conservative
Feb 1, 2013, 3:17 PM
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Most republicans are democrats look the same. pardon the lack of focus. Their camo is really working.
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Re: When you are Paleo-Conservative
Feb 1, 2013, 3:21 PM
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They are the same. No looking the same about it.
The repuclican house is doing the same thing the democrat house did from 2006 to 2010. The democratic president is doing the same thing the republican president did from 2000 to 2008.
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Well I look at like this
Feb 1, 2013, 5:43 PM
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Would you rather die by gunshot to the head? (Democrats) or die by arsenic poisoning slowly and painfully (Republicans)
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Re: Well I look at like this
Feb 1, 2013, 7:02 PM
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I would rather neither.
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110%er [6781]
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Exactly. Just trying to show the difference simply***
Feb 1, 2013, 8:20 PM
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Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 2:34 PM
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JMHO.......from a moderate Republican.
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Re: Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 2:35 PM
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If we had more Lindsay Grahams we wouldn't have any liberties left for the democrats to take. We're talking about the man who said on the senate floor "You don't get a stinkin' lawyer".
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Re: Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 2:55 PM
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Just wondering what constitutes a Republican? Frame your response in percent of voting with their party affiliation.
99%, 85%, 75%?
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Re: Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 2:58 PM
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See that's where you are going wrong. Republican is not one who votes with their "party" or tows the party line. Today, that is called a neocon or a RINO. The republican party line is as liberal as it has ever been.
A true republican votes with constitutional and conservative principle 100% of the time. Graham wouldn't know the constitution from a People's magazine.
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Re: Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 3:04 PM
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Ok so you are saying he shouldn't vote with the Republican party?
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Re: Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 3:14 PM
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No, that is not what I said. I said he is liberal. Just like John McCain, John Boehner, Chris Christy, Marco Rubio, Mitt Romney....RINOS, NEOCONS, Liberal republican snakes...
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Re: Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 3:16 PM
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So who is the ideal politico? Your gold standard?
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Re: Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 3:19 PM
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Well the closest we had was Ron Paul but Americans were too brainwashed by the 2 party paradigm to give that chance.
The closest we have no is guys like Tom Davis, Lee Bright, Mike Lee, Justin Amash, Rand Paul, and a few others....
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Re: Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 3:24 PM
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Ok, last comment. Ron Paul is more of a Libertarian and not really a Republican.
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Re: Need more Lindsay's to grt around grid lock in D.C.
Feb 1, 2013, 3:29 PM
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Do you know why the libertarian party came about in the 70's?
These were republicans. Principled republicans. When the Repub party was taken over by disgruntled democrats with civil rights in the 60's the party began getting more liberal with spending and foreign intervention. The libertarian party came about due to this. Republican is the party, libertarian is the philosophy. Reagan spelled this out once.
Ron Paul was republican for his entire career for the exception of 2 years. He is a traditional republican. The republican now is not republican at all.
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Thanks, but what others say or think never has bothered me.***
Feb 1, 2013, 2:53 PM
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The wind
Feb 1, 2013, 2:45 PM
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$1 to Bob Segar
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Re: The wind
Feb 1, 2013, 2:51 PM
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You've lost me BP.
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Don't worry, you still have Mark "The Trail" Sanford....
Feb 1, 2013, 2:58 PM
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running for office, and Stinky Haley saving us from financial ruination.
Thanks to these geniuses, I must check all my accounts daily to make certain my life's savings and/or identity haven't been stolen by hackers.
Lindsay Graham a liberal? By the way, are you still holding that little boy in the underground prepper cave in Alabama?
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Re: Don't worry, you still have Mark "The Trail" Sanford....
Feb 1, 2013, 3:03 PM
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> running for office, and Stinky Haley saving us from
> financial ruination.
Mark Sanford had personal issues yes, but he was a #### good politician and stood up for tax payers and small businesses. Go clean out your own closet.
I have my issues with Haley but she has brought jobs to this state.
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> Thanks to these geniuses, I must check all my
> accounts daily to make certain my life's savings
> and/or identity haven't been stolen by hackers.
And here you have no idea what you're talking about. The jurisdiction of the CIO is on the budget and control board, not Nikki Haley or FGMS. Nikki Haley is trying to get rid of the budget and control board to make way for the Dept of Administration like most all states have to solve some these oversight issues. Quit placing blame on things you have no freaking clue about.
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> Lindsay Graham a liberal? By the way, are you still
> holding that little boy in the underground prepper
> cave in Alabama?
Yes, Graham is a liberal, go look at his voting record and show me where he's voted conservatively. And your second comment is just absolutely and ignorantly absurd.
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Dang it! I hadn't heard he was considering running but I was
Feb 1, 2013, 3:12 PM
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really hoping he would. Hopefully we can get someone decent to run against him. Sounds like a GOP strong arm to me.
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Re: Dang it! I hadn't heard he was considering running but I was
Feb 1, 2013, 3:17 PM
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That was my thinking....Hoping Lee Bright may step in but he'll probably be given an ultimatum too.
Our only hope maybe another conservative democrat like in 2008 with Bob Conley.
The democratic party all but endorsed Lindsey Graham in 2008 vs Conley....that oughta tell you alot about Lindsey graham when the democrats refuse to endorse his opponent.....
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