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Game Changer [1940]
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Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 2:02 PM
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Clean up the turnovers.
Cade take a step or two forward and the Oline show some improvement.
The receivers take a step or two forward.
This is a different team.
I think we have a better chance against Georgia than what we are being given.
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Oculus Spirit [39215]
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Here Are Some Coins For Your Suffering***
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Aug 10, 2024, 2:14 PM
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Paw Warrior [4781]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 2:14 PM
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Even with the subpar O play, the turnovers killed us more than anything else. We beat Duke easily if don’t turn the ball over. We beat FSU if we don’t give up the scoop and score. We don’t lose to Miami if we don’t fumble on the goal line. The only game that really didn’t matter with turnovers was NCST. We just couldn’t do anything that game, although we did give up a pick 6.
There was an obvious correlation between us finishing the season 5-0 and winning the turnover margin in each of those games.
Agree that if those are addressed, and the offense is just even slightly better, we should be a playoff caliber team.
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Clemson Conqueror [11373]
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it's funny how turnovers only killed us....
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Aug 10, 2024, 3:04 PM
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Guess what........Kentucky beats us w/o turning it over 4 times.
what if Notre Dame doesn't turn the ball over 3 times???
what if USC doesn't turn it over twice??
Turnovers are part of the game and they go BOTH WAYS. We had a 3-3 "close game" record (1 score games)......the rest of the games weren't that close one way or another.
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Paw Warrior [4781]
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Re: it's funny how turnovers only killed us....
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Aug 10, 2024, 4:33 PM
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You missed the entire point. By us cleaning up the turnovers & winning the turnover margin, we were able to capitalize on other teams mistakes.
We lost every game we lost the turnover margin. The point is, we cleaned that up, started winning the turnover margin, and guess what happened? Sorry if that is too difficult to understand.
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Clemson Conqueror [11373]
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you're missing the point.....
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Aug 10, 2024, 6:53 PM
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WE WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH. That's what happens. We had 6 "50/50" games where turnovers did decide it...........our Coaching nor our talent was good enough to prevent or overcome them each time. Our 2015 was VERY turnover prone, particularly DW4, but the difference was he and EVERYONE around him was elite enough to shrug it off and go score a few TDs to overcome or balance it out.
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Paw Warrior [4781]
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Re: you're missing the point.....
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Aug 10, 2024, 6:57 PM
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When you have NFL caliber receivers and a two-time Heisman contender at QB, it makes up for a lot.
That’s an anomaly, not the norm. You don’t need that to be successful—look at Michigan last year or even the Bama team with Coker. It just takes minimizing turnovers with above average offensive play & a solid defense.
But please, don’t let me drag you out of pessimisity.
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Clemson Conqueror [11373]
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Re: you're missing the point.....
Aug 10, 2024, 7:47 PM
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Michigan had like 13 players drafted in this years draft which I believe was the most of any college this year.
I imagine Bama with Coker was the same way.
It takes ELITE players to win/compete for a national title. We haven’t had enough elite the last 3 years.
We will see how many we have in ‘24. Fingers crossed.
Btw. It’s not pessimism it’s realism. You should try it.
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Game Day Hero [4392]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
Aug 11, 2024, 11:14 PM
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I threw that out there the other day and one dude thought I'd grown a phallic item on my forehead.. But you are correct.
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Orange Phenom [14692]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 2:16 PM
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I'll take 10-2 all day!
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National Champion [7563]
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You sound like a Tommy Bowden man
Aug 11, 2024, 2:32 PM
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10-2 would have been a stellar year for him. Not in contention for anything big, but better than the usual mediocrity.
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National Champion [7292]
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Re: You sound like a Tommy Bowden man
Aug 11, 2024, 5:24 PM
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well he didn't have a 12 team playoff. 10-2 right now puts you in a great spot for the ACC championship, and an automatic bid, or an at large.
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Ring of Honor [21640]
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Re: You sound like a Tommy Bowden man
Aug 12, 2024, 9:50 AM
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Um 10-2 is getting in a 12 team playoff you seriously expect to be undefeated every year?
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Clemson Sports Icon [56993]
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We GAVE away Duke, FSU,and MIAMI games. Gaaaaave them away. IMHO.***
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Aug 10, 2024, 2:23 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3273]
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Going to Be Shock and Awe
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Aug 10, 2024, 2:56 PM
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A monumental upset is in the works. I know our players and coaches have thought about beating them for months. I doubt the dawgs worried about us too much.
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Hall of Famer [8984]
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UGA will be ready to prove they belonged in playoffs
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Aug 10, 2024, 5:37 PM
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last year. I expect a very motivated opponent in ATL on 31 Aug. you’re naive if you think not.
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Legend [6657]
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Re: We GAVE away Duke, FSU,and MIAMI games. Gaaaaave them away. IMHO.***
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Aug 10, 2024, 3:40 PM
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Duke whipped us on both sides of the ball. They looked like the better team personnel wise which was shocking. That, more than anything from last season, cost us national respect. It was similar to the Notre Dame game the year before but that game was a nightmare from a scheme and play calling standpoint such that it got Streeter fired.
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Orange Elite [5304]
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Re: We GAVE away Duke, FSU,and MIAMI games. Gaaaaave them away. IMHO.***
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Aug 11, 2024, 5:17 PM
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No they didn't. Clemson ended the game more dominant stat wise. The turnovers is what made the difference. You take away everything Duke got off turnovers (scores, yards, etc), Clemson thoroughly dominated them. Scoreboard didn't show it because they scored 21 of their points off Clemson turnovers.
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Athletic Dir [1186]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 2:56 PM
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I feel like a 13.5 underdog to uga is just about where vegas would put all of the top 10 except texas oh st
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Associate AD [1065]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 3:02 PM
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We may be slightly improved this year but I still see our floor as 8-4 and our ceiling as 11-2.
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Legend [6790]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 3:05 PM
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Thanks for the suffering to give us hope.
It just seemed like every play last year was so hard. There was never a wide open TE down the middle or a RB catching a easy ball in the flats. It seemed the opponent new what play was being ran.
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Hall of Famer [8105]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 9:39 PM
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They did. We were only capable of running a few plays. When nobody can catch the ball past 20 yards, you are greatly handcuffed on offense
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Clemson Sports Icon [59969]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 3:31 PM
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Cade still looked good in those losses, just the mistakes needed to be cleaned up. But most of Cade's mistakes were cause bc of the O line not holding blocks and allowing heavy pressure to get to Cade before he ever had a chance to look up, and he would try to force something good to happen that went bad...
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All-Time Great [97617]
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Cade whom I light is like a chicken with head cut off
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Aug 10, 2024, 4:02 PM
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At times and goes ADHD-like too often during stress.
He will settle down more this year ..maybe enough to get us 2 more wins over 2023.
LBB: Original PAW Flag Bearer 1977-92.
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Game Day Hero [4537]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 5:43 PM
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Over all the lines of scrimmage will determine that game. If our OL is truly improved then I think we can keep it close as long as Cade can just be a decent game manager. Find open receivers, don’t take unnecessary sacks, and don’t turn the ball over.
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Ring of Honor [22004]
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I remember us being outplayed on both sides of the ball.
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Aug 10, 2024, 7:53 PM
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Took guts to watch the game again, though.
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Game Changer [1774]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
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Aug 10, 2024, 9:32 PM
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Few years ago, DW4 we could cough up a couple turnovers, DW4 throw a couple pics and we still win by 20.
We had a lot of terrible nerves last year, but we were a very mediocre team last year.
We certainly can be much better this year.
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Ring of Honor [21640]
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Re: Finished watching our 4 losses from last year.
Aug 12, 2024, 9:55 AM
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We also have had the worst luck we’ve ever had. Go back and watch the GT game where Deshaun threw one of the worst INTs I’ve ever seen yet GT fumbled it into the endzone, we ended getting two points and the ball back. People really forget how those years were, we weren’t perfect by any means and the breaks went our way more than not.
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CU Medallion [18975]
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It's wild to think of the alternate possibilities of last season if Weitz
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Aug 10, 2024, 10:00 PM
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hit that potential game-winner vs FSU, and our D held on for the W ahead of OT.
Hard to believe that we wouldn't have found a little more inner after not to lose to Miami or NC State over that stretch. The story behind Dabo grabbing a grad kicker with eligibility in between career gigs the week prior and that delivering in that moment would have been epic. One yard wide left?
Footballs. Oblong balls be tricky, yeah?
Go Tigers!
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We might win all our that we play and still not get to finish the season
Aug 10, 2024, 11:43 PM
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It’s going to get interesting as the bubble keeps getting bigger & bigger, let’s hope it doesn’t burst 💥
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Ring of Honor [22004]
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Watching the Miami game now. How many critical fumbles did Ship have?
Aug 11, 2024, 5:20 PM
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I seem to recall Mafa having a bad one, too, last season, but if memory serves me correctly, Ship fumbled more and at the worst times.
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Game Changer [1746]
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U did wut??
Aug 11, 2024, 10:09 PM
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Like Lewis Grizzard said, "I wouldn't'a told that".
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National Champion [7701]
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I think its just a mindset thing
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Aug 12, 2024, 9:25 AM
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the moment they click that mindset over to believing they are better than everyone else is the moment they'll take that next step. The mindset of "here we go again" can be contagious. If there is any coach in America that knows how to click that mindset over its Dabo so hopefully he's got Cade believing.
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