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Commissioner [1212]
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I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
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Oct 23, 2024, 2:49 PM
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi
There's no hiding the bias anymore. If you're not SEC or ND, you stink.
A few that stick out like a sore thumb:
#3 Alabama at 5-2
#5 Ole Miss at 5-2
#8 Oregon undefeated
#23 SC at 4-3 (at least they lose close these days I guess)
#32 Auburn with an impressive 2-5 record. Huge wins over Alabama A&M and New Mexico
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1st Rounder [687]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
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Oct 23, 2024, 2:51 PM
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Wonder what "metrics" they use to arrive at these conclusions.
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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Solid Orange [1382]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
Oct 24, 2024, 9:44 AM
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This throw a wrench in the works of what many want to believe. Many...including the orginial poster think there is some group of people picking teams. FPI is math. It takes PF, PA, win/loss records of opponents, margin of victory etc. Things that hurt Clemson in FPI is the fact that most of the teams we have beat have dismal statistical records across the board. Its not some opinion based list and becomes mnore meaningful as the season progresses.
FPI is pretty much close to betting odds. Why that is important is anyone that setting betting odds has a vested interest in being objective because they have money on the line if they are wrong.
Right now today, betting odds to make the playoffs ranked #1-#25 This is probably the most accurate rating for the top 25 teams. But just like FPI it will change drastically not just on the top 25 teams win loss, but on their past/future opponents win loss and game stats as well as injuries to key players etc. There is no favorite conference in this...they don't want to lose money because they love love love the SEC. That would be foolish.
1.Oregon
2.Georgia
3.Ohio State
4.Texas
5.Penn St
6.Miami
7.Clemson
8.Miami
9. Nortre Dame
10 Iowa St
11. Alabama
12. LSU
13. Boise St
14.Texas A&M
15.Indiana
16. Kanasas St
17. Ole Miss
18. BYU
19. SMU
20. Missouri
21. BYU
22.Tulane
23. Memphis
24. Colorado
25.Illinois
Since Carolina was mentioned they place #40
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Solid Orange [1382]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
Oct 24, 2024, 9:45 AM
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Typo.. the lower Miami ranking is supposed to be Tennessee.
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TigerNet GOAT [∞]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
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Oct 23, 2024, 3:00 PM
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And both FPI and SP+ are pretty high on 4-3 Louisville, with the Cards at No. 17 on FPI and No. 21 on SP+. I would think the recruiting rankings element would knock SMU a bit but they're No. 16/17.
5-2 Ole Miss is No. 3 with SP+.
Not saying they're not curious ratings, but they are predictive measures and not necessarily based on just the data from the action so far.
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Rival Killer [3090]
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They are also partially based
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Oct 23, 2024, 3:23 PM
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On strength of schedule.
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Hall of Famer [8597]
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Strength based on artificially high initial rankings***
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Oct 23, 2024, 4:25 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [38955]
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Athletic Dir [1126]
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Oct 23, 2024, 3:16 PM
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Anytime someone uses the word "metrics" when it comes to sports makes me want to vomit. Most of it sounds like Tim Bourett on acid. The tigers are 3-0 on a Saturday in October after an open date and before a Thursday night game when the wind is from the SE and it's above 45 degrees. But only after Buster Crabbes birthday.
Lies-D**n lies and statistics.
Like all the BS they use in golf. Launch angle, curvature, ball speed, apex.....Low score wins folks.
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All-Pro [719]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
Oct 24, 2024, 9:36 AM
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And concentrating on those things gives you low scores. Statistics matter in sports. Don’t believe me ask the nba how many games have been won off half time statistics.
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Clemson Icon [26916]
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Exactly why Clemson is suing to get out of ACC.
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Oct 23, 2024, 3:51 PM
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As time goes on, the separation between P2 and ACC will grow wider and wider every year.
Anybody who isn't cheering for Clemson to get out of ACC, and the sooner the better, is naive at best.
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All-American [554]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
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Oct 23, 2024, 4:19 PM
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espn has been a corrupt tool of a joke for at least 15 years. Herbstreit is the leader.
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Game Day Hero [4513]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
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Oct 23, 2024, 4:31 PM
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Those close games for the coots are considered wins by their coaching staff and fans
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Clemson Conqueror [12098]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
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Oct 23, 2024, 5:23 PM
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Close games? They declared victory after losing to us by 21pts a few years ago.
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National Champion [7882]
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Clemson Conqueror [12098]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
Oct 23, 2024, 6:09 PM
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Coincidentally, ESECPN can’t believe anyone believes them either.
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Clemson Icon [26528]
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ESPN has no business offering any rankings of their own nor
Oct 24, 2024, 5:27 AM
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bowl nor CFP projections, considering their involvement with several conferences.
As far as I'm concerned, their job is to present sports' events, and let America decide everything else. That they seek to control is exactly the reason why so many people despise them, as a network, other than watching events.
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Orange Beast [6492]
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ESPn peaked between 2008-2018
Oct 24, 2024, 8:57 AM
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ESPN is on the decline
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Ultimate Tiger [38955]
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There Must Be a Positive Factor Included to Losses to Crap Teams Like
Oct 24, 2024, 9:02 AM
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Northern Illinois and Vandy. My household rule now is "if ESPN supports it, I detest it". I cannot think of ONE thing Disney and it's bunch of weirdos get right nowadays.
Disney used to be a respected institution, now the freaks and sickos have ruined kids movies, sports and all things entertainment. If a meteor hit Bristol, CT I would go to watch it burn.
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Offensive Star [321]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
Oct 24, 2024, 9:19 AM
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At the end of the day these numbers are just rankings/metrics. It doesn't matter what esecpn thinks. Games are going to be played and things are going to change. When are people going to stop caring about these polls? The only poll/ranking that matters is the final CFP ranking. That is it. Nothing else. Does ESPN have an influence, unfortunately yes. But arguing or complaining about any poll/ranking is pointless unless it is the final CFP ranking.
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National Champion [7996]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
Oct 24, 2024, 9:23 AM
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#1 Ohio St?!?
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All-Pro [719]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
Oct 24, 2024, 9:49 AM
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Yes because Vegas would have Ohio state favored against anyone in the country on a neutral field.
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All-Pro [719]
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Re: I genuinely cannot believe ESPN's power index
Oct 24, 2024, 9:34 AM
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You should listen to Josh page. Power rankings are not polls or standings they are different. The reason Oregon is 8 is because as of right now all those teams ahead would be favored on a neutral field if the nets were released today. We have seen how west coast matches up with south east. It’s just not that pretty. Hardly ever is.
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All-Pro [719]
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Oct 24, 2024, 9:50 AM
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