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Epstein files
Sep 24, 2025, 3:40 PM
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What is really going on with them? Joe had 4 years to release them and didn’t. Trump promised he would and now he won’t. When Dems were in power Republicans wanted them released and Democrats wouldn’t release them. Now that Republicans are in power, Democrats want them released and Republicans won’t release them. Honestly, partisan politics laid aside, what the heck is going on?
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Republicans at Trump's request are blocking their release to protect pedophiles***
Sep 24, 2025, 3:49 PM
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I don't why this has to keep being said...
Sep 24, 2025, 4:03 PM
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The Dems and Biden couldn't release the files. They didn't have them. They were either under wraps by Palm Beach investigators or part of an active investigation and couldn't be released to the public.
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Re: I don't why this has to keep being said...
Sep 24, 2025, 4:09 PM
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The FBI had the files. The same court order that was supposedly blocking them is also supposedly blocking Trump. What date exactly did Trump get them if Joe didn’t have them?
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Here you go. The Judge said 8/20/25 that the Government could release
Sep 24, 2025, 4:40 PM
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the Epstein Files in their possession but is choosing not to.
This is from The Judge in his filing...
"The government is the logical party to make comprehensive disclosure to the public of The Epstein Files. By comparison, the instant grand jury motion appears to be a "diversion" from the breadth and scope of The Epstein Files in The Government's possession. The grand jury testimony is but a hearsay snippet of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged conduct. (Not a single victim was called to testify before the Epstein Grand Jury. In fact, the only witness in the Grand Jury was a law enforcement FBI agent who had no direct knowledge of the facts of the case and whose testimony is mostly hearsay.)
In February of 2025, the Government, as noted, was prepared to release their "Epstein Files" to the public. See DOJ press release. But then, on July 6th, 2025, the Government announced it would not make the files available to the public. See DOJ and FBI memo at 1 "It is the determination of the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation that no further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted."
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.518648/gov.uscourts.nysd.518648.77.0.pdf
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Re: Here you go. The Judge said 8/20/25 that the Government could release
Sep 24, 2025, 5:50 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/20/politics/jeffrey-epstein-grand-jury-documents-rejected-request
So. If I understand this whole muddy mess, the grand Jury records are being blocked from release. The file itself is not being blocked for release. A judge recently issued an opinion that it could be released. It appears to me that an order blocking the release never was in place.
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Republicans wanted them released?
Sep 24, 2025, 4:25 PM
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Who? When?
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Re: Republicans wanted them released?
Sep 24, 2025, 9:25 PM
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Under Biden admin.
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Yeah, who?***
Sep 25, 2025, 10:01 AM
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Because Democrats thought they could win with logic
Sep 24, 2025, 5:13 PM
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and reasoning.
There was no reason to stoop to Trumpish politics if the voters would see through Trump.
Now the Democrats realize their best strategy to win is to get in the weeds.
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Re: Because Democrats thought they could win with logic
Sep 25, 2025, 6:39 AM
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Democratic problem is they let the lunatic fringe drive the party. Schumer has made that statement himself. LGBTQ and Antifa are not going to win you a national election.
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Now she's fighting to not release any more***
Sep 25, 2025, 10:48 AM
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Can you imagine the grilling the republicans who vote against releasing them
Sep 25, 2025, 10:51 AM
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will take when they get back home to their town halls?
Defending a pedophile (or many pedophiles) is gonna be a hard sell to parents with young kids.
What's the excuse going to be? "Well, we had to defend Trump at all costs."
That by itself might finally get Graham voted out.
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