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Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 19, 2012, 9:48 AM
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Wanted to get thoughts on this...
After looking at Clowney's stats this past year vs. Gaines Adams his last year at Clemson, they're not too far off from being the same. Clowney had 5 more tackles for loss(21.5 to 16.5)and .5 a sack more(13 to 12.5). Gaines had 3 Fumble recovery's to Clowney's 0 and they tied at 2 on Forced fumbles.
The media gave Gaines some love but not a breath of Heisman mention like Clowney. E$ecPN love?
Yes I know Clemson was 8-5 in 2006 as well.
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Re: Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 19, 2012, 9:49 AM
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Clowney's a sophomore. That's probably the biggest difference.
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Re: Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 19, 2012, 9:53 AM
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I was referring to this past season for Clowney. He finished 6th overall in Heisman voting and Gaines wasn't in top 10 in '06.
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Re: Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 19, 2012, 9:56 AM
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Hype coming out of high school + playing in the SEC I guess. And like you said, Clemson was 8-5 whereas SCAR is a top 10 team.
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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Give me a break the ACC hasn't been this bad EVER.
Dec 19, 2012, 10:35 AM
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Definitely not when Gaines was playing.
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All-In [26968]
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ACC this year has nothing to do with it.
Dec 19, 2012, 10:41 AM
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Clemson played two ranked teams in 2006. One of them, Florida St., finished 7-6.
South Carolina this year has played four teams that have finished in the Top 15.
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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We beat a WF team that finished 11-3 and won the ACC
Dec 19, 2012, 10:50 AM
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Finished #18
Lost in double OT to BC (Finished #20) with Matt Ryan. Finished 10-3.
Lost actually pretty badly to #19 VT that finished 10-3. Yes we lost but gaines still played against them.
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Re: We beat a WF team that finished 11-3 and won the ACC
Dec 20, 2012, 8:31 AM
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Now don't confuse the SEC boy with facts
Coots how many times did you win the weak ACC when you were in it???????????????
Dang you have a losing record to Duke
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Re: Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 19, 2012, 10:05 AM
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Clowney has had exposure since he was in high school and has not disappointed in college. He was SEC freshman defensive player of the year and freshman all american. This year he was unanimous all american and SEC defensive player of the year.
If Gaines had a three year run of production and publicity like Clowney has had he would have most likely received more recognition in the Heisman voting.
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Just proves the theory is actually fact***
Dec 19, 2012, 10:06 AM
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Clowney is the most dominating defensive player since...
Dec 19, 2012, 10:30 AM
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Jevon Kearse. End of story.
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Re: Clowney is the most dominating defensive player since...
Dec 19, 2012, 11:31 AM
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I agree!
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there is no comparison to be made...JC is a supreme talent
Dec 19, 2012, 10:32 AM
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I loved Gaines Adams...but he was no JC
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Re: there is no comparison to be made...JC is a supreme talent
Dec 19, 2012, 11:30 AM
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I agree! Adams was a very good player but he was no where close to being as dominant as JC. There's only been a few DEs like him in college. I think Julius Peppers was one & Jevon Kearse. only to name a few examples
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withdrawn. Google has corrected me. You're still wrong.***
Dec 19, 2012, 1:26 PM
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Re: Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 19, 2012, 11:38 PM
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Sophomore, high profile recruit, and likely top pick in the draft
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Clowney is at a whole different level. He lines up all
Dec 20, 2012, 7:43 AM
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over the field and his quickness and speed make him unblockable at times.
He's a 6'6" Clay Matthews.
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Re: Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 20, 2012, 8:12 AM
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Gaines played against ACC teams Clowney against SEC foes
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Re: Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 20, 2012, 8:35 AM
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Yeah Vandy, east carolina,uab,mizzo,uk,tenn. wofford
Boy howdy that's killer
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Re: Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 20, 2012, 3:58 PM
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But Vandy was 8-4
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Re: Clowney vs. Gaines
Dec 20, 2012, 4:02 PM
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How about Va Tech, NC State, DUKE, Wake Forest, Furman, Maryland, Ga Tech, SC State?
Strong opponents.
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