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And I quote:
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Jan 21, 2023, 9:46 PM
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"Brad Brownell is one of the best defensive coaches in the country"
Heard this during the game tonight?
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No argument here
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Jan 21, 2023, 9:48 PM
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It’s the truth. Basketball people know it.
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Re: No argument here
Jan 21, 2023, 9:55 PM
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It’s the truth. Basketball people know it.
Isn't VA Tech the worst team in the conf?
Asking for a friend.
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Re: No argument here
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Jan 21, 2023, 9:58 PM
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I think Louisville is probably worse that VT. I do think VT has a good coach.
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Re: No argument here
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Jan 21, 2023, 10:14 PM
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VT is not even close to being the worst team in the ACC in MBB. They have lost multiple games by 5 or fewer points--2 to the Tigers by a total of 4. Their next 4 games are at home vs Duke, Syracuse and UVA and 1 at Miami. Don't be surprised if they win 3 or more of those.
Clemson's defense and the crowd were the difference tonight. Dillon Hunter had a breakout game today.
His ball protection and defense vs Pedulla were game changers without Chase Hunter in the lineup.
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Re: No argument here
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Jan 21, 2023, 10:16 PM
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VT is not even close to being the worst team in the ACC in MBB. They have lost multiple games by 5 or fewer points--2 to the Tigers by a total of 4. Their next 4 games are at home vs Duke, Syracuse and UVA and 1 at Miami. Don't be surprised if they win 3 or more of those.
Clemson's defense and the crowd were the difference tonight. Dillon Hunter had a breakout game today.
His ball protection and defense vs Pedulla were game changers without Chase Hunter in the lineup.
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Re: No argument here
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Jan 21, 2023, 10:27 PM
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Correct @Cobbox, the people that deny Brownell team’s defensive prowess haven’t been watching. There have been periods of offensive drought, and teams that lacked offensive firepower, not to mention teams that found ways to lose close games in puzzling ways. But our defense has always been scrappy and certainly more dependable than our offense over the years.
But this team finds ways to win close ACC games. THAT is something we’ve never really had, at least in the past 50 years.
It could have something to do with coaching, but if keeping BB on some kind of Tnet hot seat keeps the masses happy, then so be it.
I hate to stir the haters, but BB and Dabo are going to be our head coaches for the foreseeable future. Better lean into it!
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Re: No argument here
Jan 22, 2023, 10:14 AM
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And we are making free throws. That is huge in close games.
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You're insane. Look at the defensive numbers over the years.
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Jan 21, 2023, 11:10 PM
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Why can't you just accept winning without being a d|ck?
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Re: No argument here
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Jan 22, 2023, 8:21 AM
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Cobbox you say 2 things over and over.
1. Lunatic Fringe
2. Basketball people know Brownell is a good coach.
If #2 is true and basketball people know he’s not supported properly (your words in the past not mine), why in 12+ years has a basketball school that devotes more resources not come after him? You see it in all sports every year that a program/franchise goes and gets a coach/player they believe does more with less. If what you say is true BB, would’ve already been taken from us. If we go to at least the sweet 16 I bet he doesn’t get one job offer.
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Re: No argument here
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Jan 22, 2023, 10:58 AM
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 21, 2023, 10:00 PM
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Our team defensive ranking is 101st. We finished the season 181st last year. He typically finishes below 100. That quote is mindless blather.
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 21, 2023, 10:15 PM
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Would be interested to know where you're getting those statistics... We're 61st in total defensive efficiency this season per Kenpom... In the previous 5 seasons, we've only finished outside the top 33 once in defensive efficiency (last season). Three of those years we were top 20, with one of those being top 10.
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 21, 2023, 10:50 PM
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Its points allowed per 100 possessions. Warren Nolan. 61st in defensive efficiency isn’t great either - especially against the competition we’ve faced. The idea that we are particularly good at defense under Brad is a total fallacy.
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 21, 2023, 11:00 PM
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John sheyer said we were one of the best defensive teams in the league in his post game interview. Guess he's just an idiot too.
We gave up 50 points to VT. Pretty solid defensive game!
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 21, 2023, 11:08 PM
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The coach of an opponent that lost complimented that team?!?! You sir have found the epitome of an unbiased reference on Brownell’s tenure. Stats be ######. First year head coach John Scheyer (it would help your claims to authority if you could spell a name right) says Brownell is a defensive stud.
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 21, 2023, 11:21 PM
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Imagine winning a basketball game while holding a team to 50 points, and coming to the basketball board to argue our team sucks at defense. What a pathetic loser.
Brownell is a great defensive coach. We had a down defensive year last year, but we are typically a top 5 team in points given up in ACC.
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Why have we only won two tournament games in 12 years?
Jan 21, 2023, 11:27 PM
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Why is Brad taking the 38th biggest salary in America while only finishing in the top 40 twice in 12 years?
Inquiring minds want to know, Judge.
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Re: Why have we only won two tournament games in 12 years?
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Jan 21, 2023, 11:59 PM
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Why is Brad taking the 38th biggest salary in America while only finishing in the top 40 twice in 12 years?
Inquiring minds want to know, Judge.
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I found another pathetic loser.
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Those are valid questions.
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Jan 22, 2023, 2:30 AM
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There's no need for the namecalling, Judge. Try, at least try to answer the questions. If we've been so good, then why is there no postseason accompi
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Re: And I quote:
Jan 21, 2023, 11:54 PM
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I wasn’t complaining about the defense. I’m calling shenanigans on Brownell as “one of the best defensive coaches in the country”. That is simply not backed up by facts. Pick any variation of team defense that you like and list his 12 seasons final rankings. I guarantee his average is not top 50.
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Brownell is a defensive stud
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Jan 22, 2023, 1:09 AM
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You can pull any stat you want, but the eye test and other coaches will tell you the same thing — Brownell can coach defense. Now go back to the Lunatic Fringe Clubhouse and pout because you’re not going to get the firing you and your messed up buddies want.
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Ya reckon the actual rankings mean more than your eye test?
Jan 22, 2023, 2:35 AM
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Just because we've slow played into low scoring games, that doesn't mean Brownell has shown a strong defensive game. The numbers are real and completely override your eye test.
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Wait. Wait. Wait.
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Jan 22, 2023, 6:35 AM
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We’ve been told for years by the Brownell Bros to study a bunch of stats and ignore our own eyes.
So…which is it?
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Re: And I quote:
Jan 22, 2023, 10:08 AM
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Do not confuse Clemson basketball “fans” with fact!
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 21, 2023, 10:06 PM
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No doubt about that.
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Re: And I quote:
Jan 21, 2023, 10:12 PM
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I didn't catch who was calling the game tonight, maybe Judge Keller?
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 21, 2023, 10:17 PM
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This team is 9-1 in the ACC. Never before have we had that record. Can you negative Nancy's please just once sit back and enjoy something?
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Re: And I quote:
Jan 21, 2023, 10:32 PM
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Not being negative, just hadn't heard that and that wasn't my impression. I've been enjoying their success this season quite a bit.
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9-1 huh? That’s awesome.***
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Jan 22, 2023, 1:16 AM
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Re: And I quote:
Jan 22, 2023, 10:18 AM
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Should be 10-0. Fire BB! No excuse for such a weak and drab basketball team.
Fire tnet coaches!
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Re: Well
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Jan 21, 2023, 11:25 PM
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Correct.
Scoring defense thru tonight according to ncaa va tech is 101 abd we're 138th. Both teams were well below their average shooting percentage. Just one of those games. They just got their acc first team aa cotoor back and he struggled. They had actually been playing better without him.
You can't deduct anything from one game. Ultimately it doesn't matter because it comes down to wins and loses. Who cares if you got the number 1 defense if you don't win.
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"Ultimately it doesn't matter because it comes down to wins
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Jan 22, 2023, 1:49 PM
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and losses"
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Re: Well
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So…we’re only 7th in the conference?
But here we sit at 8-1. Sure, we’ve beaten the bottom teams a lot (just like everybody tries to), but our Tigers have also defeated 4 of the upper level teams.
No gimmicks.
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 22, 2023, 2:42 AM
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If rebounding is part of defense ( I always considered it ) then he absolutely is not!!!
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 22, 2023, 8:02 AM
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Him being a good D coach is not the issue. The issue is why outlets coach getting a little praise upsets you? Seems your feelings against CBB are stronger than your support for Clemson
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Seems your love infatuation for BB is stronger
Jan 22, 2023, 2:08 PM
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than your support of Clemson University, Judge.
Do you even know how many usernames you've accumulated to say the same things over and over?
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Re: And I quote:
Jan 22, 2023, 8:27 AM
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The best defensive coaching I have ever witnessed was when ratface screamed at Wojo in a shrill voice to slap the floor. Slap the floor Wojo, slap the floor.
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Re: And I quote:
Jan 22, 2023, 10:18 AM
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We were coached to do that in HS in the 70s. Pretty funny how much it actually works. A loud grunt helps also.
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Well, that was a heck of a defensive battle last night.***
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Jan 22, 2023, 9:39 AM
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Re: And I quote:
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Jan 22, 2023, 9:43 AM
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Years ago I called it the “Root Canal Defense” and I still do.
I prefer the high scoring style of play but I also like winning, so I like what CBB is.
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Stats are for losers.
Jan 22, 2023, 10:24 AM
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Ever heard that said?
If you win every game 98 - 97
You will be the world champ! And likely the worse defense. - statistically speaking
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Re: Stats are for losers.
Jan 22, 2023, 10:33 AM
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The eye test from the games I have watched has me thinking they are pretty solid on defense.
Still cannot figure out how the this team and Kentucky for that matter lost to SC. They are horrible. Do not follow them besides final scores so do not know if major players are hurt but they are getting spanked.
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