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"Level Playing Field" is a LIE
Apr 13, 2007, 2:05 PM
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Athletes can still be approved by the NCAA, denied by Clemson, and play for our rivals. Is that a level playing field? How in the world can Barker continue to spout that lie to the Clemson Nation??
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he pretty much TB a free pass as long as players keep
Apr 13, 2007, 2:06 PM
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getting degrees.
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Orange Blooded [4640]
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The football team now has a voice in the matter. If this
Apr 13, 2007, 2:07 PM
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happens again, we will have more trouble and heat on the brass than this time. They are using paperwork to keep their behinds clean.
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Re: "Level Playing Field" is a LIE
Apr 13, 2007, 2:11 PM
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No one has a level playing field, so why does it matter. If you want a level playing field, everyone should have the same stadium, same locker rooms, same everything.
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that sounds like a justwannaargue statement***
Apr 13, 2007, 2:17 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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He must be a smart guy, b/c it's the truth***
Apr 13, 2007, 2:18 PM
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He's not***
Apr 13, 2007, 2:51 PM
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It may be, but if it is a lie
Apr 13, 2007, 2:13 PM
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Then it always has been a lie.
Meaning, the playing field has NEVER been level. We can't (don't) accept the same kids that can be accepted at any number of Div1A programs.
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I think you're accurate
Apr 13, 2007, 2:23 PM
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we've always had a situation where there will be someone one school takes a chance on that another school won't.Sometimes we're the one taking a chance and sometimes we aren't
I just get annoyed that we had good graduation rates and seem to be going overboard policing ourselves when what we had previously worked. Plus we manged to handle it in such a way as to turn it into a PR fiasco. I don't like anything that makes CU look foolish. I am particularly intolerant of self inflicted wounds
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All-In [29037]
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Oh, no doubt about that
Apr 13, 2007, 2:27 PM
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I'm not a fan of the AARC (as it reacted last year). I just don't go as far as to say Barker is lying in this one.
Hopefully the system will prove itself fixed and be a credit to the school and the athletic department.
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Re: Oh, no doubt about that
Apr 13, 2007, 2:31 PM
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Not a Barker fan. Yeah I know he's an alum and all but so am I and I get blasted all the time on here.
No my problem is his continued coziness with Lennon. I just can't see how you can do that and still be a CU man. I'll never resolve that
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Re: I think you're accurate
Apr 13, 2007, 3:04 PM
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Good points, the PR fiasco was instigated, in part, by the so-called 'journalists' who decide that it's their duty to bring all this out. Sometimes it's just best for people inside the community to tap on the shoulder of those at fault and handle it within the organization, rather than bring it out to public light and hurt reputations unnecessarily.
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The question is...
Apr 13, 2007, 3:11 PM
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do you trust that the admin would have actually recognized this as a situation that needed handling if not for the bringing it out in the open? Judging from their actions I can say personally I don't.
Before this year, most people didn't know the AARC existed.
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Rock Defender [61]
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Re: The question is...
Apr 13, 2007, 4:24 PM
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Yeah, I honestly feel that this admin would assess the situation and take care of it, not every administration is the same. There's plenty more than just this incident that is handled every day. I truly believe the admin we have in place now is one of the strongest in the recent past. By and large, the right people are leading the right departments.
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Rock Defender [61]
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Re: The question is...
Apr 13, 2007, 4:26 PM
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BTW, thanks for the good, intelligent conversation on this. I think that is lacking sometimes on this board with all the jumping onto one argument and screaming bloody murder, it's nice to just calmly discuss what the situation is and who it could have or should be handled.
Have a great weekend! GO TIGERS!!
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Rock Defender [61]
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Re: The question is...
Apr 13, 2007, 4:26 PM
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how, not who.
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Rock Defender [61]
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Re: "Level Playing Field" is a LIE
Apr 13, 2007, 2:20 PM
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Last time I checked, the NCAA wasn't on the admissions board at Clemson, nor were they paid by Clemson to assess those students abilities to succeed at Clemson. NCAA didn't decide if I could get into school, that's for sure.
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Orange Blooded [3637]
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He's lying now or he was then...
Apr 13, 2007, 2:39 PM
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one or the other. If we weren't under any disadvantage then why the change? And if we were on a level playing field then, wouldn't we be at an advantage now? You can't be level 3 months ago, make changes like this and be level still.
I know that this is all admin-speak but I'm honestly a little insulted at the way they have acted towards John Q Clemsonfan.
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CU Medallion [67995]
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I think I graduated w/ him
Apr 13, 2007, 2:49 PM
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John Q was a nice guy.
Actually I agree. Its gibberish designed to confuse and avoid a direct answer. Sad they've stooped to that.
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and we can accept a player & they can be denied by the NCAA***
Apr 13, 2007, 5:03 PM
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