this nugget from Tommy West can provide goot DT

Jul 21, 2011, 9:44 AM

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Some of this sounds awfully familiar

From a TI Interview a friend sent to me:

on a player Idris Price West says: "That was a really, really bad deal. A bad deal. Our administration decided that they weren't going to let him play. I remember that we went so far into that, that we were going to let him take a lie detector test.

"This was more us (Clemson than the NCAA). They questioned the test score. And he was a heck of a linebacker. We're getting ready to go to Chapel Hill and I remember that's a point where we had already gone through a lot of distractions from within. It's hard enough to beat Florida State. You can't be fighting battles from within your own university. And I was fighting for him."

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Ard: One of your assistant football coaches told me one time, "They want us to be Princeton here six days a week and then be Clemson on Saturdays." Was that the way it was from your vantage point?

West: "Part of that perception is because of the conference, maybe not now but at that time. I always used to tell people that they never realized how good an academic school Clemson is. I always felt like Clemson had a chip on its shoulder about some things, because it was selective in admissions but perhaps wasn't as known academically as some of the other universities in the conference, despite Clemson being a great academic institution.

"At this point in time in the 1990s I thought our administration decided that test scores were more important than Clemson. And I loved Clemson because Clemson was great granddaddy, son, daughter and just everybody went there. It was a family place. It was a college for people of the state of South Carolina. But I saw us changing. And now if a kid from Cheraw, South Carolina wants to go to Clemson and has the score and his whole family has gone to Clemson but there is a better test score in New Jersey, then all of a sudden we started taking other people. And that had nothing to do with football, but I did see Clemson changing at that time for what I felt was for the worst."

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High School GPAs are pretty much useless these days.

The difficulty varies across schools so much that you could have a 4.0 (or 5.0 if you use the AP scales) score a 1100 on the SAT (old scoring system) and have a 3.2 at another school score a 1500.

Hate them if you will, but the SAT/ACT are the best/ most fair measure of aptitude out there currently.

USC will almost always outnumber us in in-state students, both in terms of percentage of student body and raw number because they have a larger overall student population, and Clemson has much more rigorous academic standards. I am fine with that. I am from SC, but let's face it, there aren't that many kids from SC scoring well enough to get in to Clemson.

this nugget from Tommy West can provide goot DT

before anyone dismisses the comments as sour grapes

Re: before anyone dismisses the comments as sour grapes

I know they are great

Re: Tommy had the misfortune of working for an AD

So, Clemson has academic ##### envy.

I always liked Tommy West

Re: I liked him too. He took over from Mr. Personality

He is DC at UAB. Really good guy.***

Re: this nugget from Tommy West can provide goot DT

yeah the only commitment we show is to sportsmanship

so much RAGE after reading these series of articles

cu's football program caught the worst case of herpes ever

I always liked Tommy

after reading the interview its painfull to see how close he

THIS - New Jersey over SC

exactly- this is 1 of the founding principles that seems to

And now we seem to turn down

I've always thought that a prospective student

I recall writing an essay on my Clemson application

Re: And now we seem to turn down

Well, they do pay higher tuition, so do the math..***

Re: THIS - New Jersey over SC

This whole "NJ/Ohio/Northern influx of students" thread

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