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All-In [28802]
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there is no such thing as an "undergraduate business school"
Apr 1, 2011, 11:38 AM
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I'm as big a proponent of Clemson as anybody, but when people talk about a "business school" they don't mean the undergrad. business program. On the other hand, prospective USC students (and just about anybody going somewhere because of the rank of the graduate schools) need to realize what you're saying- that you're going to the undergrad program, not the grad program.
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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Only SCAR's grad program for "International Business" has
Apr 1, 2011, 12:44 PM
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been highly ranked, but it is a small specialized program not offered in many places around the country.
Most SCAR folks have ignored that fact and lumped all of their business programs with that perception.
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Thats flat out wrong and I don't know why Clemson fans
Apr 1, 2011, 6:56 PM
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continue to say that on here. The undergrad international business program has consisitently been ranked 1 and 2, along with the grad program.
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CU Medallion [60244]
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and guess how many students get into that #1 I.B. program?
Apr 1, 2011, 7:58 PM
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a whopping 50 per year. That means 150-200 max out of your 25,000 students (incoming Freshmen are not eligible, see below). How about that. Congrats to the few who can actually make it there, I'm sure their careers are set nicely.
from your own website:
Competitive Admission: Admission to the international business major is highly competitive, and enrollment is limited to 50 students per year. Enrollment in the Chinese Business Track is limited to 20 additional students per year.
http://www.sc.edu/bulletin/ugrad/BAHome.html
The rest have to flounder around in your average business school, as the public is misled into a belief that USC has some sort of top tier overall business school.
Even your ads are misleading.....a Freshman cannot even enroll in the I.B program: http://vimeo.com/6371729
"Students admitted to the international business major at the Moore School must fulfill the following requirements:
-15 credit hours of international business core courses
-A second business major (for example, in accounting, economics, finance, management, management science, or marketing)
-Proficiency in a second language
-Study overseas"
Amazing. An ad aimed at about 0.05% of your student body.....yet you make it look so easy. Nice snowjob.
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All-TigerNet [11024]
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Dahla Mo sho didnt get a lot for her 70 mil*******
Apr 2, 2011, 9:58 AM
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All-Conference [427]
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Legend [17368]
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110%er [5093]
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These rankings are retarded
Apr 1, 2011, 1:08 PM
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i feel bad for the idiots who believe them.
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I feel bad for the idiots....
Apr 1, 2011, 5:13 PM
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who had no option but to attend the University of Second Choice becasue they couldn't get in to a good college or university.
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110%er [5093]
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I feel bad for the kids who went to Clemson then have to go
Apr 1, 2011, 5:44 PM
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to the University of Second Choice to get a real degree like a J.D. or a M.D.
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You Feel Sorry for MIT and CalTech Kids?
Apr 1, 2011, 6:15 PM
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MIT and CalTech don't have law and medical schools.
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110%er [5093]
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Did you really just compare Clemson to MIT?
Apr 1, 2011, 6:19 PM
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Re: I feel bad for the kids who went to Clemson then have to go
Apr 1, 2011, 8:30 PM
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yeah... me too.
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The State
May 21, 2010
Walter F. Pratt Jr. will step down as dean of the University of South Carolina’s School of Law next year, adding a search for his replacement to a list of challenges for a school that has plummeted in national rankings and struggled to raise money for new facilities.
...But a decade after the university first discussed plans for a new home for the law school, it still does not have one. Meanwhile, tuition has skyrocketed and the school’s position in national rankings has sunk.
U.S. News & World Report dropped USC’s law school from No. 87 last year to a “third tier” position this year below No. 100. The law schools of the University of North Carolina and the University of Georgia finished in a tie for No. 28. Both schools are significantly less expensive than USC’s law school...
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110%er [5093]
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Not really sure how that helps the argument***
Apr 2, 2011, 10:51 AM
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Re: I feel bad for the kids who went to Clemson then have to go
Apr 2, 2011, 11:25 AM
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"to the University of Second Choice to get a real degree like a J.D. or a M.D."
I feel bad for anyone who has to go to USC for a JD or an MD, with the sorry state of both of those programs. USC's med school takes less than 100 students a year, with more than 50% of them out of state kids that didn't have the grades or MCAT to get into a better school. Why is USC's SOM taking less and less in state students? It's because they're broke and get almost $50,000/year from out of state tuition, which is among the most expensive in the country. USC takes less qualified students and charges them insane amounts for a medical degree that will have them struggling to compete for any residency other than primary care.
So in short, don't feel bad for me or the other Clemson grads in my class, we graduated from Clemson and got into the one real medical school in our state, the Medical University of South Carolina.
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Legend [18310]
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Responsible Tiger graduates attend medical school at
Apr 2, 2011, 11:32 AM
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MUSC and law school either either in Charleston or out-of- state. These schools you refer to are substandard and are located in a smelly chicken yard.
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Orange Blooded [3974]
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Why engage in the debate then?
Apr 2, 2011, 10:48 AM
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It's a stupid argument either way, and yours is just as dumb.
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CU Medallion [60244]
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thanks for confirming what we know....
Apr 1, 2011, 4:19 PM
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your link is for GRAD SCHOOLS.
Clemson is just starting their MBA program in downtown Greenville, which is going to jumpstart their graduate program. Look for them to pass USC in coming years MBA-wise.
To their credit, USC successfully blurs the line, leading most students to think that the undergrad program is the same as graduate program. Looks like you have swallowed the bait yourself.
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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Indeed.***
Apr 1, 2011, 4:20 PM
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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Grad schools only. Again, you never hear about a ranking
Apr 1, 2011, 4:19 PM
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in the 50's in any of those ads for the University, it is always the IB #1.
Clemson has several schools of engineering in the top 20 in the country, the Civil Engr program was ranked 15th last year, I haven't seen this years. Architecture has also always been one of the country's best.
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Re: Grad schools only. Again, you never hear about a ranking
Apr 1, 2011, 4:25 PM
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undegrad business is usually ranked in the top 50, I certainly won't argue with you over engineering and architecture, Clemson has great programs there (my brother graduated from Clemson with an architecture degree), but saying Clemson's business school is better than USC's is ridiculous
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Legend [17368]
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No, what is ridiculous is suggesting we should believe
Apr 1, 2011, 6:33 PM
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your opinion over Bloomberg - which is an entity that specializes in business. It's not some Clemson grad saying Clemson's business school is better than USC's, it is a highly regarded business specialist firm.
"CLEMSON — The undergraduate business program at Clemson University is ranked 29th among public colleges in the country, according to Bloomberg Businessweek magazine’s 2011 ranking of “The Best Undergraduate Business Schools.” Clemson’s undergraduate business program is the highest-ranked program of its kind in South Carolina."
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2011/mar/31/clemsons-undergraduate-business-program-29th-among/
http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/
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Re: No, what is ridiculous is suggesting we should believe
Apr 1, 2011, 6:39 PM
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not my opinion over bloombergs, US News' opinion over bloomberg
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Legend [17368]
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That list you linked is for MBA, as in MASTERS of
Apr 1, 2011, 6:56 PM
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Business Adminstration . . . we are talking about UNDERGRADUATE business schools.
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Re: Clemson business school > USC business school
Apr 1, 2011, 4:14 PM
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couldn't get the current undegrad rankings for business, they charge for it, but here for 2008 USC was 41 and clemson was 71. I'm sure there are some random rankings that have clemson ahead of usc, but US news is the main ranking everyone goes by
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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The last US News/WR I saw, later than 2008, had Clemson
Apr 1, 2011, 4:24 PM
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undergrad business ahead of USC. It was all over this site when it came out.
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Clemson > $CU PERIOD (End of discussion)***
Apr 1, 2011, 5:11 PM
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Re: Clemson business school > USC business school
Apr 1, 2011, 10:19 PM
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I always hate these school arguments. Some of us hope both schools do well in their academic ares.
It especially sucks during this time when we are getting our ##### handed to us on the playing fields.
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Re: Clemson business school > USC business school
Apr 2, 2011, 8:41 AM
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Jim Barker is getting an erection that there would be so much talk about a magazine ranking on Tigernet.
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Orange Blooded [2862]
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I say let them have the business school in exchange
Apr 2, 2011, 10:50 AM
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for Clemson taking over Engineering... like the state of Georgia does it.
Instead, we have S Carolina floundering all over the place as a engineering school wannabee. Think of all the money they've thrown at trying to be a hydrogen, nanotechnology, , research institute. And now, Ms. Darla Moore is throwing money at an Aviation program they're going to start.
What a joke
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110%er [5093]
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Yeah, A lot of stupidity from the city of columbia, usc
Apr 2, 2011, 11:02 AM
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and the bush administration for all that hydrogen crap.
You're right, the leadership at our school is going to run it in to the ground. It's depressing.
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