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Letterman [270]
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I'm done with Kevin Steele
Sep 7, 2010, 1:34 PM
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He is a stud DQ like I'm a brain surgeon. Stayed in a nickel (looked like a dime, but Quandon Christian looks like a DB) the whole game. NT didn't go deep, just underneath stuff. Maybe changing to the base should have been tried. He didn't change against Middle Tenn, and they went up and down the field. That was a disgrace for defense against that caliber of team. If I were a OLB in high school, I wouldn't come to Clemson, cause this guy might sit you for 2 of 12 games a year. Oh, and give up 400 yards a game to patsy teams while your butt rides the pine.
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Re: I'm done with Kevin Steele
Sep 7, 2010, 1:36 PM
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He never had any use for you, so no problem.
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All-TigerNet [10961]
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maybe we needed to work on our Nickel package?***
Sep 7, 2010, 1:36 PM
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Athletic Dir [884]
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Re: I'm done with Kevin Steele
Sep 7, 2010, 1:38 PM
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Well, bye.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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hmmmm...
Sep 7, 2010, 1:39 PM
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most people spell coordinator with a 'c'.
but i do like a nice foot long chili cheese dog on occasion.
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Did it occur to you that was by design
Sep 7, 2010, 1:42 PM
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Coach Steel knows Clemson can beat teams like MTSU, NT, and PC by running a simple base defense and in so doing doesn't reveal too much that will help Auburn prepare.
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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Maybe, but we could have lost Saturday.***
Sep 7, 2010, 1:51 PM
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All-In [49613]
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No, Joseph, we couldn't have...
Sep 7, 2010, 1:54 PM
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...winning by 25 despite deliberately keeping the playbook closed is a pretty fair indicator of how remote the chances of that occurring were.
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Legend [18133]
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Exactly.***
Sep 7, 2010, 1:56 PM
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CU Medallion [58586]
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We weren't in danger of losing, but our D played poorly
Sep 7, 2010, 2:07 PM
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for the most part, any way you slice it.
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Oculus Spirit [75860]
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If he was infact doing the equilivent of going 15 in a
Sep 7, 2010, 2:13 PM
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neighborhood where it is safe to do 25, I'd have like to see him turn the heat up just a bit so that we may have gotten the ball in the O's hands more often. Passing game needs tuning.
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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Rev., come on. We couldn't stop 'em. I'm not concerned
Sep 7, 2010, 2:55 PM
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and I haven't been critical of Steele, etc. but the team we played was Saturday was certainly capable of beating us.
You can't be that blind to history or even JState against Ole Miss on Saturday.
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All-TigerNet [11934]
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Clemson has never lost to a team of that caliber in
Sep 7, 2010, 3:29 PM
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modern history.
Since WWII, you can search the records for any instance in which Clemson has lost to a team like Furman, Citadel, College of Pacific, Middle Tennessee State, North Texas State, Western Carolina, etc., etc.
The list of those types of opponents is long, but the list of losses is extremely short. Non-existent in fact.
We may not always win the big ones.
And we don't always even win the ones we "should" win.
But, we NEVER lose the little ones.
That's just a fact.
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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But you agree we could have lost Saturday I hope.
Sep 7, 2010, 3:50 PM
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We couldn't stop 'em and I'd hate to sit through it again without NT getting that stupid celebration penalty when it was 14-7.
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Legend [18133]
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We stopped them every time they threatened except the
Sep 7, 2010, 3:54 PM
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one perfect throw and catch. What you still don't seem to get is we didn't blitz until we had to stop them. Then we did. We could have done it all day.
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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If true, that's playing with fire, imo.***
Sep 7, 2010, 4:07 PM
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All-TigerNet [11934]
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Honestly Joe .. I never felt for one second that there was
Sep 7, 2010, 8:38 PM
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any danger of losing.
And I didn't sense any urgency in the rest of the crowd either.
I was frustrated, but NTS never seemed to be dong much of anything but eating up yards between the 20s.
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Most people on TigerNet don't know anything about anything.***
Sep 7, 2010, 2:27 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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Re: If you think North Texas can't beat us, you cetainly know
Sep 7, 2010, 3:00 PM
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Tell us more Grantland Rice.
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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14-7 early in the 3rd quarter?***
Sep 7, 2010, 3:51 PM
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All-In [29042]
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It was 21-7 at halftime.***
Sep 7, 2010, 4:01 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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Okay. Yea, we got an intercept by Sensabaugh when
Sep 7, 2010, 4:06 PM
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they were driving.
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All-In [29042]
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Right.
Sep 7, 2010, 4:09 PM
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So, we stopped them before they ever had a chance to get with 1 score in the second half?
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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Yep. I was still sweating and they were capable of
Sep 7, 2010, 4:12 PM
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beating us, imo. Sorry to beat a dead horse.
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All-In [29042]
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Come on man, you don't really believe that do you?
Sep 7, 2010, 2:54 PM
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We were never, at any time, in dange of losing that game. In fact after the first quarter they never had the ball within a single score.
Of course the D could've played better, but we were never in a position to lose that game.
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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It was 7-0 with 2:50 left in the first half. North Texas was
Sep 7, 2010, 2:58 PM
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very capable of beating us.
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All-In [29042]
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That is true I had forgotten about the long drive (timewise)
Sep 7, 2010, 3:18 PM
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They had the 7 minute drive in the second that went for 36 yards (and then a punt).
But honestly, we were never close to losing that game. Its perfectly fine to say our defense underperformed but I think you really have to stretch to feel like we were ever in danger of losing at all.
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Oculus Spirit [83191]
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I was sweating like a ####.***
Sep 7, 2010, 3:52 PM
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Legend [18133]
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Re: I was sweating like a ####.***
Sep 7, 2010, 3:55 PM
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Well, it was a sunny day.
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CU Guru [1598]
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About 10 years ago when Nebraska was ranked fairly well, a
Sep 7, 2010, 5:45 PM
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visiting Louisiana-Lafayatte team came in and put up more than 500 offensive yards on the Huskers. The result, Nebraska still pounded La-La and went on to have a pretty decent season. I'm not worried about the 460+ yards UNT put up Saturday.
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CU Medallion [58586]
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Giving up 462 yds and them dominating TOP was not by design.
Sep 7, 2010, 2:15 PM
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Vanilla defense, yes; but we still played poorly on defense and we have some serious work to do.
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CU Medallion [64621]
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That's not what I said either....
Sep 7, 2010, 2:20 PM
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but changing defenses would have stopped a lot of that. The poor tackling and overpersuing can be corrected.
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CU Medallion [58586]
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I know you didn't. I'm just pointing out that we shouldn't
Sep 7, 2010, 2:26 PM
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be concerned so much about the fact that we stayed vanilla on defense all day, but we should be concerned because we played poorly.
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CU Medallion [64621]
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Which is why I did say....
Sep 7, 2010, 2:29 PM
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the poor tackling and the overpersuing can be corrected. Those were the two most glaring problems with the defense on Saturday.
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CU Medallion [58586]
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It was more than that.***
Sep 7, 2010, 2:31 PM
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CU Medallion [64621]
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You seem to be working under the assumption....
Sep 7, 2010, 2:42 PM
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that the defense we ran against North Texas and the defense we will run against PC will be indicative of the defensive packages we'll see for the remainder of the season.
Are you familiar with the old saying about "never assume"?
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CU Medallion [58586]
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Not at all. I'm just saying that we played poorly and it was
Sep 7, 2010, 3:04 PM
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more than poor tackling and over pursuit, and it wasn't just because we stayed in the same package all day.
It's just the first game, and we won handily, so it's not the end of the world. I'm cautiously optimistic that we can get things fixed. However, I saw enough of the same things that hurt us last year when we weren't playing vanilla, to cause some concern. I think it's funny that some people either couldn't see that, or won't admit it.
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110%er [7831]
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not that I agree with the I'm done part....but any DC that
Sep 7, 2010, 2:20 PM
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designs a D to be weak where he has had trouble....ain't too bright....they need practice on clogging the middle.
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Re: Did it occur to you that was by design
Sep 7, 2010, 10:18 PM
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ohh come on....i am not saying to bash the man but if you think playing soft and missing tackles is "by design" then lets move on to the next subject. This is not news to anyone who has attended scrimmages and practies recently. Defensively we hve a long way to go!!
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LOL !! .. that's why he spent the presser declaring...
Sep 7, 2010, 11:29 PM
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he would get it fixed, when in actuality there was/is nothing that needs to be fixed.
It was all just a smoke screen and only BigCUFan saw through it.
"That was not good, that was unacceptable, I'll take that one, that one is on me"
Can you tell us exactly what he was talking about in that qoute since you have this special Steele sixth sense ... LOL !!!!!!!!!
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110%er [9084]
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Just talked with him - he's thinking of quitting now that...
Sep 7, 2010, 1:46 PM
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you're through with him - wants to go somewhere he's wanted.
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Commissioner [910]
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I was praying that wouldn't happen!!!!!!!!
Sep 7, 2010, 4:03 PM
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N/A
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All-In [49613]
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Let's see: wrack up impressive D stats against NTSU...
Sep 7, 2010, 1:47 PM
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...or have essentially a live full-game scrimmage against a style of offense we'll see a couple more times down the road this year.
Compile some pretty game film highlights against a team we rightfully should disembowel or get some meaningful footage to work on weak points before we encounter another spread offense.
Make CU8993 happy or do something constructive with this game.
Decisions, decisions.....
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Re: Let's see: wrack up impressive D stats against NTSU...
Sep 7, 2010, 2:02 PM
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Agreed.
Its North Texas!! North Texas is a much improved team that should be a contender for their conference. But Tigers are much much better team and honestly i think the D played a decent game. Secondary seems to need the most work and i did not like the soft coverage against the underneath route. But why go balls to the wall and risk injury to an important player? I would like to see a little more fire in the secondary but its a Win and that's all that matters. Now the defense can diagnose their problems on film and fix those errors, including the miss tackles which are unacceptable.
One thing that bugged me was the QB sneaks that still killed us. That drove me nuts all last season and i think we need to figure out how to fix that problem because I know Newton will be looking to do that in 2 weeks time.
D-line is stout and linebackers are still a work in progress. Maye will bring experience and leadership and i am happy he has been moved to weak side because he fits that side much better. Secondary has a lot of talent and i am sure that when we are not in nickel as much, those guys will show their lock-down capability.
Dabo and the Tigers will focus on those mistakes on film and correct them. The redzone D was great and i loved that because points are the only thing that matter at the end of the day. Now its on to week 2 and getting a Win against PC. Then we move on from there. Teams that win championships build on every week and that is what we did last year and will do this year. Go Tigers!
PS: the offensive line and running backs looked stout, and i am excited to to see the tigers back to some smash mouth football.
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Defensively we're experiencing a continuation of last season
Sep 7, 2010, 1:47 PM
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Until Steele proves me wrong I am skeptical that he is the man for the job.
Don't give me the UT argument. Even Steele knows Derek Dooley at UT is a no win situation.
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Legend [18133]
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Well, there you go. I was wrong. KS [i]does[/i] suck.
Sep 7, 2010, 1:49 PM
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Nah.
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We can all be thankful you're not an OLB.***
Sep 7, 2010, 2:23 PM
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Re: I'm done with Kevin Steele
Sep 7, 2010, 2:23 PM
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People can defend the guy all they want, but Koenning was putting out a better product when he was here. I still can't shake the visions of USuCk running all over us when EVERYONE had shut down their running game last year.
Make excuses for him all you want, but my jury is still out, and shading toward a verdict.
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CU Medallion [51564]
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SCU passed all over Coach Vic in 06 when he refused to
Sep 7, 2010, 2:26 PM
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change his zone and not rush more than 4.
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Re: SCU passed all over Coach Vic in 06 when he refused to
Sep 7, 2010, 2:30 PM
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Amen and he had an attitude!
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Re: I'm done with Kevin Steele
Sep 7, 2010, 2:24 PM
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Hate to but I must agree. Steele has not learned or built on last years mistakes. You have to have linebackers closer than 8-10 friggin yards or you will not stop a high school team.
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Re: I'm done with Kevin Steele
Sep 7, 2010, 6:05 PM
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Same coot! Different handle!
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Re: I'm done with Kevin Steele
Sep 7, 2010, 2:34 PM
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Wait and see what happens at Auburn. I am not worried about the defense just yet. I remember 1981 when Wofford had a pretty good day at the Valley and you know what happened that year.
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yes, and Woodrow Wilson got off to a tough start too!***
Sep 7, 2010, 2:42 PM
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I take it you assume our first two games will be an accurate
Sep 7, 2010, 2:34 PM
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representation of our d-packages for the remainder of the season?
I have not made that assumption.
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that sounds fine. does that mean you will stay off
Sep 7, 2010, 2:43 PM
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this board? or will you just whine on?
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Re: I'm done with Kevin Steele
Sep 7, 2010, 3:59 PM
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Good leave then. I'm sure he loses sleep over you. MORON!!!!
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Re: I'm done with Kevin Steele
Sep 7, 2010, 6:16 PM
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I'm sure AJ Johnson, who was in the stands watching was impressed with the use of 2 LBs.
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Head Coach [762]
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You post this trash and then no further comment?
Sep 7, 2010, 9:34 PM
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very impressive
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Re: You post this trash and then no further comment?
Sep 8, 2010, 9:48 AM
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I don't live on the computer like some nerds do. I just tell my opinion. If you positive guys want to stay positive after all this proof of getting embarrassed on Defense, then go ahead. You were the same people defending keeping Bowden, West, Hatfield, etc. Just because he is ours don't make him defendable. If his track record is the USC game, the two GT games, NTexas, and a host of other poorly defended games, then I think he stinks.
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