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All-TigerNet [10676]
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Pres Elect Obama, please don't let my brothers' lives
Nov 4, 2008, 11:20 PM
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go in vain. Please don't let our mission go unfinished. We are beyond the peak of our battle and the future for what we have done is promising. Please be patient in our struggle for mission accomplishment -- for we could not tear down the country of Nazi Germany OR Japan in such short time. Morale is high; we want to reach our goals and rid this world of unacceptable punishment to the innocent. We are not police, be we do serve our country by serving others. This country is built on those who fled where they were not welcome -- in moderation. We deserve to continue being the melting pot of the World, but we do not need to become the over-accepting, germ-filled pool that will remove any advantage we have over where our ancestors initially came from.
God, please bless America. Bless those who lead this nation, those who serve this nation, and those who legally inhabit it.
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Post of the Year.... God Bless and God Speed Sir.. YUTTT !!!***
Nov 4, 2008, 11:22 PM
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A vicious circle
Nov 5, 2008, 1:58 AM
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The idea that we should not let soldiers die in vain, leads to more soldiers dying in vain. We would STILL be in Vietnam if at some point the conflict wasn't simply ended.
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No, if it wasn't for a failed policy in Nam, we whould have
Nov 5, 2008, 6:26 AM
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won there. Learn your history. We will not fail in Iraq if we have the right plan in place but with Obama at the helm I doubt that will happen.
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Re: No, if it wasn't for a failed policy in Nam, we whould have
Nov 5, 2008, 9:14 AM
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The "failed policy in Nam" is part of what a war is. We failed totally on the KNOW YOUR ENEMY front.
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OOH-RAH Devil Dog!***
Nov 4, 2008, 11:28 PM
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God Bless you sir!***
Nov 4, 2008, 11:35 PM
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agreed! but i think i know what will happen***
Nov 4, 2008, 11:48 PM
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Re: Pres Elect Obama, please don't let my brothers' lives
Nov 4, 2008, 11:56 PM
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Your brother's lives will not go in vain no matter what. America appreciates what they have done.
However, why risk more lives for a cause that is irrelevant to America?
Some of the high ranking officials in the military I know would like nothing more for this war to end tomorrow, no matter the outcome.
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please give me names. I second guess you know ANYONE
Nov 5, 2008, 12:18 AM
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who wants this war to end that is currently "high-ranking" in the United States Military.
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crickets......... God Bless You, Marine!!!***
Nov 5, 2008, 12:23 AM
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Point for the sig picture***
Nov 5, 2008, 6:01 AM
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You are incorrect.***
Nov 5, 2008, 12:39 AM
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The gal is "often wrong, never in doubt"***
Nov 5, 2008, 9:13 AM
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You obviously haven't been there***
Nov 5, 2008, 2:20 AM
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### do you know about all that??
Nov 5, 2008, 5:38 AM
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apparently you have never talked about that with someone who has actually served. I'm disappointed in you, I thought you were smarter than that.
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Re: please give me names. I second guess you know ANYONE
Nov 5, 2008, 3:34 PM
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You're second guess is wrong.
High up is a relative term, my point being that the whispers I hear aren't from some grunt soldier.
I could make up names and you wouldn't know the difference either way so I won't bother.
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Semper Fi***
Nov 5, 2008, 12:28 AM
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Re: Pres Elect Obama, please don't let my brothers' lives
Nov 5, 2008, 1:00 AM
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Heres to the end of a great nation. With Obama in the White House we are screwed my friends.
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Re: Pres Elect Obama, please don't let my brothers' lives
Nov 5, 2008, 2:04 AM
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Why so little faith in Americans?
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Re: Pres Elect Obama, please don't let my brothers' lives
Nov 5, 2008, 8:58 AM
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The pres elect,congress, pelosi are who I don't have faith in.
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Thank you Marine One and Tiger gal.
Nov 5, 2008, 9:00 AM
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I have lost faith in the youth of our country.
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Re: Pres Elect Obama, please don't let my brothers' lives
Nov 5, 2008, 3:22 PM
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I felt the same way a little less than 8 years ago. Somehow, despite our current president and his party, this country looks like it will make it to see a new government. I'm not sure if that's comforting to you, but that's all I've got.
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Thank you for your service
Nov 5, 2008, 1:08 AM
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and your brother's lives are not in vain. Neither were those in Korea or Vietnam.
Also, you have a VERY skewed perception of American History regarding immigration.
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Can I get an AMEN !!***
Nov 5, 2008, 1:24 AM
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To fardog, ClemTig0408, ClemPoker, colbyD & darkhunting...
Nov 5, 2008, 2:47 AM
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Your disrespect and uniformed banter is not appreciated nor wanted here. Take your liberal, pc, BS somewhere else. Lies and negativity make me sick.
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Re: To fardog, ClemTig0408, ClemPoker, colbyD & darkhunting...
Nov 5, 2008, 9:02 AM
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ditto
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Re: To fardog, ClemTig0408, ClemPoker, colbyD & darkhunting...
Nov 5, 2008, 9:11 AM
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What is the problem with pointing out that Vietnam and Iraq are the two worst policy mistakes in US modern history. Do you disagree?
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Thank you for your service.***
Nov 5, 2008, 6:24 AM
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Agreed - Signed the 500 Soldiers in my Bn here in Diyala***
Nov 5, 2008, 7:31 AM
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Actually, WW2 only took 6-years...
Nov 5, 2008, 9:07 AM
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...and we took care of BOTH Germany and Japan in that time period.
I appreciate you serving our country with honor, however it's tough to support a continuing bad decision by the outgoing commander-in-chief. If you feel that any soldiers, brothers, fathers or sons died in vain in Iraq because of our troop withdrawal, perhaps you should realize what bad decisions Bush made to put their lives in peril.
I hope Obama continues the fight against terrorism to destroy that evil from our world. However, it's time for the boys in Iraq to come home.
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Re: Actually, WW2 only took 6-years...
Nov 5, 2008, 3:40 PM
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WWII, at least for the US, lasted roughly 3.5 years against Germany and 3.75 against Japan (Dec. 1941 to May 1945, Aug. 1945). However, the US occupation of Japan after the war lasted from 1945 to 1952. The occupation of Germany lasted from 1945 to 1949 and in all fairness, we propped up that country against the USSR for much longer than that. It wasn't technically an occupation after 1949, but we still have troops in Germany as well as a defense commitment.
Overall, I would discourage the comparison of Iraq to postwar Germany or Japan. I will say that both of those two countries were in much worse shape in terms of devastation. The problem is that all countries are not equal. Germany and Japan had been organized for a decent period of time under a western style form of government (centralized government with rigid organization). Both were actually democracies, although those governments had been bastardized prior to WWII. Both countries had a fairly well realized national identity/culture (stronger in Japan than in Germany). Iraq was recently formed as a nation and it has three major ethnic groups within it that have always had trouble coming to a compromise in terms of government. For most of Iraq's history as a nation it was ruled by dictators.
Now, none of this proves that you can't help those people over there get on with their lives and form a decent government, it's just that Germany and Japan don't help your argument either.
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President elect Obama, please don't let any more of our
Nov 5, 2008, 9:32 AM
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country's brothers die in vain in an unwinnable and unappreciable war. The country is taxed enough and it is impossible to stabilize what gwb saw fit to unstabilize. Another muslin theocracy in the region is inevitable, so why kill more 20-30 year olds?
PS...my real brother was over there, so call me what you will.
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Re: President elect Obama, please don't let any more of our
Nov 5, 2008, 10:58 AM
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> country's brothers die in vain in an unwinnable and
> unappreciable war. The country is taxed enough and
> it is impossible to stabilize what gwb saw fit to
> unstabilize. Another muslin theocracy in the region
> is inevitable, so why kill more 20-30 year olds?
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> PS...my real brother was over there, so call me what
> you will.
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> Message was edited by: jonnyboy®
The blame for the financial crisis should be on Clinton and the Democrats who were elected two years ago. Clinton started the mortgage problems by forcing financial institutions to make home loans to people who did not have the income to repay the loans. You think taxes will be reduced by this new clown, you are mistaken, every one will pay out the butt to pay for these programs he is proposing and you will also see double digit unemployment.
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laughing***
Nov 5, 2008, 12:31 PM
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