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Wake Forest and Brandon Ford
Apr 5, 2012, 12:45 PM
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Last night I was watching the Wake Forest game from last year and I realized how much Brandon Ford came up HUGE for us in that game. Without him, we probably aren't ACC champs. He made a few very impressive catches in critical moments... Very underrated player.
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Orange Blooded [3290]
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Re: Wake Forest and Brandon Ford
Apr 5, 2012, 12:47 PM
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yep..not sure Ford is the blocker D. Allen is, but Ford is every bit the receiver and quite possibly a step faster as well...he will definitely present matchup problems for defenses
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CU Guru [1838]
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You mean like
Apr 5, 2012, 12:48 PM
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the TD where he stepped out of bounds and came back in?
Gotta away with a big one there. Yes he is going to be a good one.
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Orange Blooded [2507]
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I believe it was fair because he was forced out***
Apr 5, 2012, 12:52 PM
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CU Guru [1838]
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no defender near him. Watch the tape.***
Apr 5, 2012, 12:54 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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The replay officials don't agree with you.
Apr 5, 2012, 12:56 PM
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That's all the evidence I need.
On another note, his TD against UNC was pretty sick, too.
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CU Guru [1838]
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That part wasn't reviewable. They reviewed where he landed.
Apr 5, 2012, 12:58 PM
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He clearly steps out on his jump but lands in bounds.
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All-In [29037]
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Just went back and rewatched it
Apr 5, 2012, 2:40 PM
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I always thought he stepped out, and it looks like he probably did.
However there is only 1 shot of that portion of the play on TV coverage and from the angle you can't tell if his heel is down on the line or not.
Probably so, but not nearly as definitive as the announcers made it sound.
Otherwise you are right about the ruling on the play. The catch was clearly good and was rightly upheld on replay. The only question is if he was ineligible to receive the pass due to stepping out prior to the catch, and as you said, that is not reviewable.
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Orange Blooded [2507]
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That was more a credit to Tajh making a perfect pass
Apr 5, 2012, 1:20 PM
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but yeah Ford will be a force for us next year. He won't be Allen but he will be someone the opposing D will have to worry about.
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CU Guru [1838]
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Pass was perfect, Brandon just slipped. I thought he
Apr 5, 2012, 1:24 PM
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was brought in as a WR?
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moved to TE, keep up with whats going on with the team***
Apr 5, 2012, 1:34 PM
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Do you just argue to argue?
Apr 5, 2012, 1:50 PM
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It is indisputable he stepped out. Even the commentators discussed it but that it would have been a penalty, not reviewable.
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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commentators aren't always right***
Apr 5, 2012, 2:58 PM
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All-Pro [659]
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He stepped out, but who cares? There are missed calls
Apr 5, 2012, 3:09 PM
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all the time. A holding call here or there can be huge. As a Clemson fan I think we all know that. Especially those "phantom" holds.
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Rock Defender [54]
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That's COMPLETELY incorrect...
Apr 5, 2012, 5:31 PM
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It's HIGHLY disputable whether or not he stepped out. There is not one iota of video evidence showing what you said you saw.
Makes one question your credibility. It's not the first time.
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CU Guru [1838]
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So the fact that others agree and the picture
Apr 5, 2012, 6:09 PM
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And he admits it, there.'s no evidence.
Go back and watch it.
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Rock Defender [54]
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You're not making sense. Who are the "others" who agree?
Apr 5, 2012, 9:54 PM
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And who admitted what?
I watched the same game that everyone has. I looked at the still shot. Again, you can guess all you want whether or not Ford was out of bounds, but there is nothing that definitely shows that. If the call was a reviewable, it would have been ruled there wasn't indisputable evidence to overturn the call.
Saying you saw otherwise is hogwash. Please stop.
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CU Guru [1838]
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Jvtiger and tiger thom
Apr 5, 2012, 10:47 PM
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That would not be reviewable. I guwas announcers were wrong too.
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Rock Defender [54]
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tiger thom didn't say it was indisputable and the announcers
Apr 5, 2012, 11:00 PM
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didn't see anything that you and I didn't. Neither did the one guy who agreed with you (i.e. not "others").
I'm also aware it's not reviewable, but the point is, if it was reviewable, there's not enough there to overturn it.
The issue here is - you say it was indisputable, and that's simply not correct.
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CU Guru [1838]
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During his post game interview, he said he went outcers
Apr 5, 2012, 11:04 PM
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And in college it was legal. But let's agree to disagree
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Rock Defender [54]
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There is nothing to "agree to disagree" about.
Apr 5, 2012, 11:19 PM
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You said it's indisputable. That's not correct.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Brandon didn't admit anything. Nothing there "indisputable".***
Apr 6, 2012, 2:31 PM
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CU Guru [1838]
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Rock Defender [54]
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The announcers have a worse persepctiv ethan you and I,
Apr 6, 2012, 2:32 PM
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looking at the still photo. And again, nothing there is "indisputable".
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Rock Defender [54]
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Nothing against the OP...
Apr 6, 2012, 2:33 PM
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But saying he was out of bounds in several different replays was said in error. Because it was never clearly shown. Yet again, nothing "indisputable".
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CU Guru [1838]
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Rock Defender [54]
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You posted the same guy twice....
Apr 6, 2012, 2:37 PM
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While that does substantiate your "others" comment, it in no way, shape, or form amounts to anything resembling indisputable evidence.
Sorry, but your subject statement is completely denied. Noting about any of the things you've posted here shows that Ford was indisputably out of bounds.
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I was at the game and had seats that were close to the field
Apr 6, 2012, 12:19 AM
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I was looking at Brandon Ford for a while since he was wide open. I had a clear view near ground level, and his heel was in the air and never touched down on the out bounds line. He jumped back towards the ball on his toes.
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All-In [29037]
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Here's a pic
Apr 5, 2012, 2:49 PM
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Looks like he is probably out there.
But the ref is staring at him and doesn't make the call, and its not reviewable.
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CU Guru [1838]
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Thank you. They showed it several times on broadcast
Apr 5, 2012, 2:52 PM
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Defender is on his heels bout to fall down.
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All-In [29037]
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Actually, they only showed that view once.
Apr 5, 2012, 2:54 PM
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Or at least on the broadcast I have on my PC it's only shown once. They did show the catch portion several times showing his toes coming down in bounds, but this pic is from the only clip they showed pre-catch.
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CU Guru [1838]
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Did your anouncers discuss the fact he stepped out
Apr 5, 2012, 3:17 PM
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but that part was reviewable?
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All-In [29037]
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The announcers (TV broadcast) said he stepped out
Apr 5, 2012, 3:24 PM
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Granted they only showed the angle once.
Like I said it looks like he probably did step out, but without another angle to show his heel definitely out it wasn't 100%.
I place zero credence in announcers being right about anything.
But I believe we agree that we probably got a break. It happens, just like WF got a break on the spot on Boyd's run on 3rd down late. His entire body and the ball were well beyond the first down marker. But, it happens.
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CU Guru [1838]
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Oh I agree. Would have scored next play anyways
Apr 5, 2012, 3:40 PM
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real break was Wake's kicker
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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he didn't step out of bounds***
Apr 5, 2012, 1:33 PM
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110%er [8681]
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common we got reffed that entire game
Apr 6, 2012, 12:10 AM
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countless bad spots for us and good spots for WF, Wake holding pretty much all game, the play before the play in question we scored but it was called back because we had "too many men in backfield" even though it was only 3
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Legend [16167]
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Shouldn't you be worrying about who the HAWGS will hire?
Apr 6, 2012, 4:09 PM
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You being "such a big fan" of them and all...
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CU Guru [1838]
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They go after Morris if they fire Bobby***
Apr 6, 2012, 4:46 PM
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Legend [16167]
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And they will be turned down...Why would he go to a 2nd
Apr 6, 2012, 8:10 PM
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rate SEC West school?
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CU Guru [1838]
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Yeah 5th in the nation and only loses to 1 and 2 is 2nd rate***
Apr 6, 2012, 10:16 PM
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They beat your ##### like a drum.***
Apr 6, 2012, 11:21 PM
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CU Guru [1838]
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Not my #####, but yeah they did and will again as will
Apr 6, 2012, 11:40 PM
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Florida And Clemson and LSU and Georgia and Tenn
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Well you're a coot, so.***
Apr 7, 2012, 11:59 AM
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CU Medallion [51559]
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Why are you here? You do nothing but bash Clemson.
Apr 6, 2012, 10:38 PM
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I don't care if you served in the military or what, you need to leave.
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CU Guru [1838]
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Really? See my posts on perfect pass, he is going to be
Apr 6, 2012, 11:10 PM
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great and would have scored on next play. He just accidently stepped out.
He is good and will be a good one.
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Not much of a life huh. Sorry, couldn't help myself.***
Apr 5, 2012, 1:36 PM
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Orange Blooded [2348]
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With Allen's departure, we need him healthy big time.***
Apr 5, 2012, 1:41 PM
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Orange Blooded [2217]
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Give it up
Apr 6, 2012, 9:02 AM
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How many times has Clemson got shafted on missed calls? Now how many times has Clemson benefitted? I could care less if he stepped out or not. The play was reviewed and it stood, thats enough for me. Go back under your bridge
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Orange Blooded [2217]
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Re: Not my #####, but yeah they did and will again as will
Apr 7, 2012, 12:26 AM
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Hey troll, do you have the crazy hair like those old dolls from back in the day? I bet that is a b!tch to take care of. Anyways, enjoy the underside of the bridge
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CU Guru [1838]
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When you reply you need to be on the comment
Apr 7, 2012, 8:50 AM
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you are replying to. For some reason your reply is the opening post. funny comments though.
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