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Topic: Yo tigermanc, this true?
Replies: 14   Last Post: Nov 3, 2020, 10:38 AM by: CUintulsa®
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Yo tigermanc, this true?


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 8:32 AM
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https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/11/02/whitmer-threatens-up-to-6-months-in-prison-for-businesses-who-dont-record-customers-personal-info-992086

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Seriously, where do you find these "news" sources?


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 8:39 AM
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Yes, but no, but no.


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 9:09 AM
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First of all, it expired on October 30th. Second, it was not an executive order by the governor, but an order signed by Robert Gordon, the Director of the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services. Yes, select businesses were required to keep a record of who came in and when for contact tracing. HOWEVER, if you pay attention, nearly every business has that information anyway. My barber knows when I have an appointment. Gyms monitor when people arrive and leave. Ticketed events already know who attends and when. All other business already have that information as well through transactions. Between Facebook, Google, Apple, et. al on your phone, they're asking for less than those companies already know and have. Not to mention other previsions are totally unenforceable.

It's largely a strawman article.

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9. Contact Tracing.

(a) Gatherings are prohibited at the following facilities unless the facility maintains accurate records, including date and time of entry, names of patrons, and contact information, to aid with contact tracing, and denies entry for a gathering to any visitor who does not provide, at a minimum, their name and phone number:

(1) All businesses or operations that provide barbering, cosmetology services, body art services (including tattooing and body piercing), tanning services, massage services, or similar personal care services;

(2) Sports and entertainment facilities (except outdoor, unticketed sporting events), including arenas, cinemas, concert halls, performance venues, sporting venues, stadiums and theaters, as well as places of public amusement, such as amusement parks, arcades, bingo halls, bowling centers, skating rinks, and trampoline parks;

(3) Gymnasiums, fitness centers, recreation centers, exercise facilities, exercise studios, bowling centers, roller rinks, ice rinks, and like facilities.

(b) All businesses or operations that provide in-home services, including cleaners, repair persons, painters, and the like must not permit their employees to gather with clients unless the business maintains accurate appointment records, including date and time of service, name of client, and contact information, to aid with contact tracing.

AND......

(e) Consistent with MCL 333.2261, violation of this order is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 6 months, or a fine of not more than $200.00, or both.

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To be fair, there is a huge difference between normally


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 9:38 AM
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doing something and being sent to jail if you dont.

Whether contact tracing warrants that type of govt intervention, where that threshold is, and how those decisions are made is a legit subject, which means the article is legit. Hand wave at that, and you cant squirm about the Patriot Act, and there is almost nothing the govt cant do.

For most people it's like this:
- Govt tracks you because isis: good (or bad)
- Govt tracks you because covid: the opposite

So lets dont pretend we're a nation of independent thinkers or have, or want, an independent media.

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Kinda like taxes then. Got it.***


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 9:48 AM
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If that's your answer, then for you, yes.***


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 9:58 AM
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Snowden says yes... Clapper says no (but maybe)...***


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 10:17 AM
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To which? It's almost never to both.***


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 10:19 AM
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Government tracks you. Period.***


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 10:21 AM
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We got that. So that makes it okay for them to tell you


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 10:26 AM
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its illegal for you to not track me?

That was a fun circle, but straight line from here, please.

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If the Feds want to, they don't need any help... Now, if


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 10:31 AM
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Mich. wants to, maybe they should just ask...

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Dude, you are wrong once again


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 9:51 AM
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always attacking the source, not the actual info

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/29/michigan-puts-new-covid-19-restrictions-gatherings-restaurants/6072637002/


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Re: Dude, you are wrong once again


Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 9:56 AM
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That wasn't a bad idea. Maybe too ambitious, but a good idea if it wasn't too impractical.

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I'm wrong? I didn't even express an opinion.***

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Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 10:27 AM
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This is new to you?

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Posted: Nov 3, 2020, 10:36 AM
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You're single, one assumes.

Edit: Hey, I think I just gave you 39000. I accomplished something today.

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