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Re: Waste water testing is some good schyatt
Aug 28, 2020, 7:54 AM
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Re: Waste water testing is some good schyatt
Aug 28, 2020, 7:56 AM
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Shhh.
Look at you, suggesting there's a rational, scientific way of managing this thing, as opposed to just throwing a bazillion random batsh!t remedies against the wall hoping one sticks in between bouts of claiming the whole thing is an overblown media hoax designed to discredit the president, proclaiming there'll be a miracle cure or vaccine any second now, and urging people to get their cowardly butts back to work, just step over the bodies if you gotta, because 'Merica!
You. Just. Don't. Get. It.
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Re: Waste water testing is some good schyatt
Aug 28, 2020, 8:00 AM
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Re: Waste water testing is some good schyatt
Aug 28, 2020, 8:23 AM
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Because yeah, it's totally a straw man argument and 180,000 people (and counting!) aren't actually dead.
Hey, let's recap again, in the president's own words:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZjSM1x1gNA
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You’ve seen people en masse saying all that?
Aug 28, 2020, 8:35 AM
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I mean, there’s 330 million people in the country. I suppose I could say “pubs need to win in November because they have to defeat people who want to burn down the White House and turn the Washington Monument into a giant realistic phallus” and I’d have a decent shot at capturing at least one real-world point of view.
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I will say quozzel's post was uncharacteristically...
Aug 28, 2020, 8:39 AM
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hyperbolic. I know I stepped over 12 bodies walking from the house to the car this morning. I don't have the energy to point out the hypocrisy of the blame game again. Nobody ever responds to it anyway.
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Correction needed
Aug 28, 2020, 8:42 AM
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It was......hyperbolic.
Love ya quoz, don’t get mad.
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Re: Correction needed
Aug 28, 2020, 9:05 AM
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Gosh, more smiling snippiness.
You're so subtle Obed. Please don't try the passive-aggressive thing; you're a mile out of your league. My house was so passive-aggressive it was basically made of Ginsu knives.
I see you. And I don't care a whit that you hate my guts and I make you seethe. Actually, it makes me a bit happy.
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Man what a martyr you are.
Aug 28, 2020, 9:43 AM
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It was truly a joke, and it’s amusingly vain to assume that I’m that invested in you. I’ve actually enjoyed our recent interactions and I’m glad you’re on the board. I’m many things, but passive aggressive is not one. If I were as wound up about you as you seem to think, there would be no subtlety involved. Calm down.
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Actually yes, I've seen that very sentiment VERY often,
Aug 28, 2020, 9:48 AM
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and a lot in here too.
One of my favorites is hearing this issue will go away come November.
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I don’t think it will go away, but I certainly
Aug 28, 2020, 9:50 AM
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Think it won’t be as prominent in its coverage. Post-election, regardless of the outcome, there will be far less utility to weaponizing it.
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It will remain as prominent in coverage regardless of
Aug 28, 2020, 9:53 AM
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whatever the election results are.
Like I said, your strawman image was great, should've saved it for a real one.
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Agree to disagree***
Aug 28, 2020, 9:56 AM
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I think that's the way most conservatives on here believe...
Aug 28, 2020, 10:06 AM
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which I think was the point of the "en masse."
If Biden wins, the coverage will be quite different, other than the constant reminders that it is Trump's fault, especially if there is another surge.
I know there are some that think this is a hoax. Most sane people aren't there.
I have said on numerous occasions the this will all end in November with tongue planted in cheek, but also believe that the reporting will be different after the election.
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Your last line is my basic point. If Trump wins,
Aug 28, 2020, 10:09 AM
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He won’t won’t see any utility in beating the “China virus / deep state” crap, and if Biden wins the utility of “Trump lied people died” will be gone. What we hear about it will be quite different. I’m not sure how any rational person can not see this.
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...that's not even close to what I was arguing.***
Aug 28, 2020, 11:00 AM
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going back to where this all started...
Aug 28, 2020, 11:54 AM
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now whether "straw man" is the appropriate representation of quozzel's post, this: "urging people to get their cowardly butts back to work, just step over the bodies if you gotta, because 'Merica!" is highly hyperbolic. I also have issues with some of the other exaggerations as well like calling it a hoax every other week, but that's neither here nor there.
People are just digging their heels in right now. The truth of the matter is (again) Trump did follow the mitigation recommendations of the scientists.
I've also seen this weak claim that pits McMasters against the doctor expert in SC (I don't live there so I can't remember her name).
So my question is, what are the scientific experts and doctors going to argue for? Best-case scenario from the medical perspective.
Anybody who is any type of management position should understand this, but are there any other considerations that should be weighed into the actions? In this case maybe the economy? The psychological well-being and intellectual development of our children?
So it's not necessarily that Trump has been pushing people to get off their lazy rumps and climb over the dead bodies filling the streets, he's trying to deal with the issue while not completely destroying everything else.
This is a novel virus and everyone has made mistakes. Recommendations have changed as we have learned more...and even then, this virus has continues to be a moving target.
Again, Trump was guided by the best experts from the start and did what they asked.
Trump has said and done some stupid stuff. He always has. It's amazing though that all these people who blast Trump, "aw shuck" Biden's gaffe and lies and say "oh, Joe's just always been like that."
To say this isn't political is being dishonest.
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